Annika said:

Therein lies the difference. Plus Janet wrote "Control" while BREAKING AWAY from her father, Beyonce wrote "Independent Ladies" while STILL UNDER Mathew's hand and Mathew was the one who presented it before Beyonce got the chance to.

That's where Janet gets the upper hand.

Timmy84 said:

Don't get me wrong, Janet pwns Bouncy, no doubt about it!

Annika said:

The hell you gonna write about being an independent woman and your daddy controls your career and your mommy controls your finances and your clothing shop?

Janet's song clearly states:
"Did what my father said
And let my mother mold me...
BUT THAT WAS A LONG AGO, I'M IN...(CONTROL!)"



That's why that song will have more lasting value than "all my women who are independent"... PLUS it was written for a movie!!!!!

"Charlie, how your angels get down like that?!" The fuck!?!

Annika said:

than why didn't latoya, Jermain, and Marlon have successful careers like janet??? All of them had more opportunities, especially Jermain Jackson. SO please explain???

Beyonce has no reason to be afraid of Janet. Solange is just backing up her sis. I guess Beyonce feels she can say whatever she wants about any artist who now looks up at her.In her mind she has that control that Janet once sang about. I do think it was direspectful considering Janet Jackson has paved the way for her & other female artist(s).

mellow1 said:

Beyonce and Solange has no business talking about the jacksons as ghetto and class-less as they are. They can barely speak. You would think with them growing up in upper class they would have more manners and be able to speak well, and not that limited ghetto vocabulary they both have.
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banks said:

Simple: They sucked. Janet at least had more talent than them, but it's truly ridiculous to sit here and act like she got "put on" WITHOUT her being connected to her famous brothers.

lastdecember said:

B worked WITHOUT HER FAMOUS BROTHERS COMING BEFORE HER TO SET THE TABLE FOR HER. Now, were there every the "Knowles 5"? LOL!

But you obviously don't know what you're talking about if you claim DC was a hit from day 1 when from day 1 they weren't even KNOWN as DC. Do ya research, homie.

Timmy84 said:

You mean OWNER.

Annika said:

Exactly. And that was the whole point to this: JANET HAD MUCH, MUCH, MUCH MORE HELP THAN BEYONCE DID - FACT. I could give a fuck about who's better than who, I'd fuck both of them but I wouldn't buy either of their CDs.

banks said:

Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis was the difference. Janet was lucky to have those two as her producers.

MuthaFunka said:

I understand that Janet got the chance of a life time because of her brothers, But i also believe that she has talent.. because every last one of the Jacksons got the same chance Janet did

banks said:

This was never about anyone having talent or not, this was about lastdecember claiming that Beyonce had her career handed to her and Janet didn't, when it's the exact opposite.

MuthaFunka said:

gotcha

MuthaFunka said:

I haven't liked Beyonce since when the first batch of girls left DC and when Kelly mentioned them, Beyonce cut her off and told don't even said their names like they didn't even exist (I'd STILL smash Letoya before Halitosis Knowles)

Yeah, I'm biased!

Timmy84 said:

Who has the cooler third wheel sibling?

Janet has Latoya and Tito

Beyonce got Solange


Janet wins

MuthaFunka said:

MuthaFunka, did you leave the towel in the damn pool!

oi.

wonder505 said:

While it is true that they were huge assets, she clearly brought something important to the table as there were plenty of artists who worked with them (consistently) and flopped.

bboy87 said:

Aw dizzamn!

bboy87 said:

!!!!!

Timmy84 said:

The Knowles were NEVER rich when dude was working at Xerox and moms was doing harrruh. Bey really need to stop with the she was upper class bullshit. Just cuz yo daddy drove a Jaguar don't make you upper crust. If that was the case every drug dealer would be in the social register and chillin' at the country club.

Timmy84 said:

Wait, Beyonce writes songs??? You sure 'bout that?

Timmy84 said:

"JohnJohn"

bboy87 said:

SCNDLS said:

No.

MuthaFunka said:

I doubt Janet has more talent than Jermaine. Infact out of the whole family I think Jermaine has the best voice, it's just that Michael had a more diverse voice which meant that his music was more varied.

The difference between Janet & the others comes down to material and producers. The fact of the matter is Jimmy Jam/Lewis said they wanted to work with Janet because she is a Jackson, that tells me if she weren't a Jackson they wouldn't give her the time of the day!!

Janet had to work hard for her success. She was on the grind at
an early age doing the variety shows with her big bubs. Her acting was
all her particularly on good times. None of her brothers were doing a tv
sitcom as successful as good times. Even early on in her music career, songs
like young love, say you do, you don't stand another chance were only
moderately successful. At this point fans weren't rushing to record stores
to buy her first two albums because she was penny from good times or had
a brief stint acting on fame or because she was michael's little sister.
It wasn't until A&M paired her with jam & lewis that her music career took off
and we know now who she's paired with as the reason why her music career
has stalled.

SCNDLS said:

That's the truth. Who's to say daddy knowles wasn't driving a used jaguar?
You'll be surprised at some of these BMW's that people are driving that
appear to be new but may be about 10 to 12 years old because they are well
taken care of and you could probably get a beamer 10 to 12 years older for
cheaper than you can get a camry or honda 5 years old.
[Edited 1/10/09 8:08am]

VoicesCarry said:

the only thing I see that she brought to the table was not wanting to sound like her brother, other than that she borrowed the dance concept from MJ (though she made it her own i still say MJ layed the groundwork and she wanted to incorporate that), which is a huge part of janet's success and she had JJ and TL to bring forth the great songs. i still say she was very lucky and fortunate.

with great looks, excellent producers laying that minneapolis funk down, great songs, great dance routines and the jackson name, she was destined for success.
[Edited 1/10/09 9:36am]