Imago said: Millions of homeowners working honest jobs can't get bailed out and that weirdo can secure credit for a flat like that?
Both MJ and Prince have to deal with the "ewwww, he's creepy" factor when releasing their products. But where Prince's factor stabilized, MJ's keeps getting creepier. MJ needs to start touring aggressively before the only venues he can book are state fairs. Dude, you don't need good credit to RENT, especially if you got $100k per month in cash. Shit, I'd rent to him for just TWO months. | |
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lmfao I thought it said Roland, but it says Poland | |
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Fuck that, I wanna come to the late night jam sessions. Lawd, I'd give my right arm to see them two fools kickin' it in P's kitchen. | |
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Man put 'MJ' and 'Prince' in the same thread title and ask for trouble!
Interesting how Michael attracts so much venom from the Prince die-hards. Us neutrals (or fans of both) are amused that MJ can still afford to do this, despite being 'over' for so very long. allegedly! Rubs a bit don't it Prince fans only?. Face it, worldwide Michael edges it by a distance, his catalogue sales are outlandish compared to Prince's. but i wish he wasn't such a lazy fucka these days. Michael aint broke. Some folks need to Wreckanize! If only Prince never wore heels, he might have beat Mike with the general public. of course, this all so ridiculous to me Love P ,Love MJ both the same. But Stevie owns them both. I'm gonna keep on laughin at these threads! Michael is the main influence for young black singers these days, NOT Prince. He was simply more successful back then. Simple as that. I'd say these young guys (and laydeez) old folks were listening to MJ back in the 80's more than P. most folk were. Apart from the die-hard fans nobody gives a shit about P, unless it's a free album or cheap concert tix. Maybe it's Motown50, his legacy, or his influence, he is genuinely missed, Peeps are wanting MJ back. I get asked "When's this and that happening?" Answer? haven't a clue. [Edited 1/8/09 12:40pm] | |
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singers/dancers are inspired by mj, instrumentalists/singers are inspired by prince
and WTF does he need 13 bathrooms for unless he's running a group home? | |
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alphastreet said: singers/dancers are inspired by mj, instrumentalists/singers are inspired by prince
and WTF does he need 13 bathrooms for unless he's running a group home? Don't give him any ideas. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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Damn, those are some loony toons! Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Marrk said:
Michael is the main influence for young black singers these days, NOT Prince. Really? Are we talking about the same Michael here? I don't remember Michael being a shit hopper that never got past midtempo. From what I remember, Michael delivered some ass-shakin' jams. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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alphastreet said: lmfao I thought it said Roland, but it says Poland
We got some bad eyes... | |
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vainandy said: Marrk said:
Michael is the main influence for young black singers these days, NOT Prince. Really? Are we talking about the same Michael here? I don't remember Michael being a shit hopper that never got past midtempo. From what I remember, Michael delivered some ass-shakin' jams. That's the MJ i remember too, i don't hear any similarities whatsoever between today's music and say OTW or Thriller | |
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vainandy said: Marrk said:
Michael is the main influence for young black singers these days, NOT Prince. Really? Are we talking about the same Michael here? I don't remember Michael being a shit hopper that never got past midtempo. From what I remember, Michael delivered some ass-shakin' jams. There are clones who don't know how to do MJ properly so they sample him and copy his moves then claim they're "inspired" by him. I say his dancing inspires them more than the music. Remember, this is the guy who has produced classics of different genres: the Motown Sound, disco, pop-rock and R&B. | |
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JackieBlue said: alphastreet said: singers/dancers are inspired by mj, instrumentalists/singers are inspired by prince
and WTF does he need 13 bathrooms for unless he's running a group home? Don't give him any ideas. maybe he's employing oompa loompas then. I can't think of any reason why 4 people need 13 bathrooms, it's kind of pathetic actually. It's like he's saying "I can have 13 bathrooms because I'm michael jackson, bitch!" he needs a reality check. Or maybe he just like the number | |
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Timmy84 said: vainandy said: Really? Are we talking about the same Michael here? I don't remember Michael being a shit hopper that never got past midtempo. From what I remember, Michael delivered some ass-shakin' jams. There are clones who don't know how to do MJ properly so they sample him and copy his moves then claim they're "inspired" by him. I say his dancing inspires them more than the music. Remember, this is the guy who has produced classics of different genres: the Motown Sound, disco, pop-rock and R&B. but so many songs in the last 2-3 years have sounded mj and even if I hear them sounding similar to artists before mj, most of them did give albums like off the wall credit when discussing their music. | |
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Marrk said: Man put 'MJ' and 'Prince' in the same thread title and ask for trouble!
Interesting how Michael attracts so much venom from the Prince die-hards. Us neutrals (or fans of both) are amused that MJ can still afford to do this, despite being 'over' for so very long. allegedly! Rubs a bit don't it Prince fans only?. Face it, worldwide Michael edges it by a distance, his catalogue sales are outlandish compared to Prince's. but i wish he wasn't such a lazy fucka these days. Michael aint broke. Some folks need to Wreckanize! If only Prince never wore heels, he might have beat Mike with the general public. of course, this all so ridiculous to me Love P ,Love MJ both the same. But Stevie owns them both. I'm gonna keep on laughin at these threads! Michael is the main influence for young black singers these days, NOT Prince. He was simply more successful back then. Simple as that. I'd say these young guys (and laydeez) old folks were listening to MJ back in the 80's more than P. most folk were. Apart from the die-hard fans nobody gives a shit about P, unless it's a free album or cheap concert tix. Maybe it's Motown50, his legacy, or his influence, he is genuinely missed, Peeps are wanting MJ back. I get asked "When's this and that happening?" Answer? haven't a clue. [Edited 1/8/09 12:40pm] ----- “Face it, worldwide Michael edges it by a distance, his catalogue sales are outlandish compared to Prince's. but i wish he wasn't such a lazy fucka these days.” I am beginning to think you are still using drugs. No one in their right mind would expect Prince to sell as many CDs as MJ with song titles like “Head” and “Sister” I do not think for one minute Prince expected or wanted to sell as many CDS as Mike. As far as influence is concerned take a look at Timberland, and Neptune productions these days. Gee they sure do spend a lot of time trying to recreate that Line drum machine sound. P has had just as much of an influence on RnB and Pop music as Mike. P fans just hate on MJ because of the child molester allegations. It is creepy and Mike should not been given a pass. If he was anyone else he would be under the jail by now. | |
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alphastreet said: Timmy84 said: There are clones who don't know how to do MJ properly so they sample him and copy his moves then claim they're "inspired" by him. I say his dancing inspires them more than the music. Remember, this is the guy who has produced classics of different genres: the Motown Sound, disco, pop-rock and R&B. but so many songs in the last 2-3 years have sounded mj and even if I hear them sounding similar to artists before mj, most of them did give albums like off the wall credit when discussing their music. The songs have a sense of MJ but they're not really because it's all from computerized instruments and no sense of soul, which you saw a lot of in "Off the Wall" and "Thriller". I never got that sense listening to the records that claim to be MJ-esque. | |
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alphastreet said: JackieBlue said: Don't give him any ideas. maybe he's employing oompa loompas then. I can't think of any reason why 4 people need 13 bathrooms, it's kind of pathetic actually. It's like he's saying "I can have 13 bathrooms because I'm michael jackson, bitch!" he needs a reality check. Or maybe he just like the number Or maybe he liked the rest of the house and didn't really care that it had an excess of bathrooms? Just a thought. | |
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laurarichardson said: Marrk said: Man put 'MJ' and 'Prince' in the same thread title and ask for trouble!
Interesting how Michael attracts so much venom from the Prince die-hards. Us neutrals (or fans of both) are amused that MJ can still afford to do this, despite being 'over' for so very long. allegedly! Rubs a bit don't it Prince fans only?. Face it, worldwide Michael edges it by a distance, his catalogue sales are outlandish compared to Prince's. but i wish he wasn't such a lazy fucka these days. Michael aint broke. Some folks need to Wreckanize! If only Prince never wore heels, he might have beat Mike with the general public. of course, this all so ridiculous to me Love P ,Love MJ both the same. But Stevie owns them both. I'm gonna keep on laughin at these threads! Michael is the main influence for young black singers these days, NOT Prince. He was simply more successful back then. Simple as that. I'd say these young guys (and laydeez) old folks were listening to MJ back in the 80's more than P. most folk were. Apart from the die-hard fans nobody gives a shit about P, unless it's a free album or cheap concert tix. Maybe it's Motown50, his legacy, or his influence, he is genuinely missed, Peeps are wanting MJ back. I get asked "When's this and that happening?" Answer? haven't a clue. [Edited 1/8/09 12:40pm] ----- “Face it, worldwide Michael edges it by a distance, his catalogue sales are outlandish compared to Prince's. but i wish he wasn't such a lazy fucka these days.” I am beginning to think you are still using drugs. No one in their right mind would expect Prince to sell as many CDs as MJ with song titles like “Head” and “Sister” I do not think for one minute Prince expected or wanted to sell as many CDS as Mike. As far as influence is concerned take a look at Timberland, and Neptune productions these days. Gee they sure do spend a lot of time trying to recreate that Line drum machine sound. P has had just as much of an influence on RnB and Pop music as Mike. P fans just hate on MJ because of the child molester allegations. It is creepy and Mike should not been given a pass. If he was anyone else he would be under the jail by now. Yeah, the Linn drums Prince used were very influential in modern music, plus Andre 3000 owes a debt of gratitude to Prince and George Clinton. That being said, a lot of the acts who take from MJ and Prince are missing the boat as to what those two were/are all about. | |
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Timmy84 said: laurarichardson said: ----- “Face it, worldwide Michael edges it by a distance, his catalogue sales are outlandish compared to Prince's. but i wish he wasn't such a lazy fucka these days.” I am beginning to think you are still using drugs. No one in their right mind would expect Prince to sell as many CDs as MJ with song titles like “Head” and “Sister” I do not think for one minute Prince expected or wanted to sell as many CDS as Mike. As far as influence is concerned take a look at Timberland, and Neptune productions these days. Gee they sure do spend a lot of time trying to recreate that Line drum machine sound. P has had just as much of an influence on RnB and Pop music as Mike. P fans just hate on MJ because of the child molester allegations. It is creepy and Mike should not been given a pass. If he was anyone else he would be under the jail by now. Yeah, the Linn drums Prince used were very influential in modern music, plus Andre 3000 owes a debt of gratitude to Prince and George Clinton. That being said, a lot of the acts who take from MJ and Prince are missing the boat as to what those two were/are all about. That's no lie. I just wish these current acts would come up with their own style so that we don't have to keep saying "Wow, that sounds like a Prince song" or "he sounds like he's trying to sound like MJ or even Stevie". No one is trying to be themselves in music and I miss hearing a unique voice that sounds as good live as it does on record. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Annika said: alphastreet said: maybe he's employing oompa loompas then. I can't think of any reason why 4 people need 13 bathrooms, it's kind of pathetic actually. It's like he's saying "I can have 13 bathrooms because I'm michael jackson, bitch!" he needs a reality check. Or maybe he just like the number Or maybe he liked the rest of the house and didn't really care that it had an excess of bathrooms? Just a thought. then it sounds to me like he still blindly spends money without being reasonable, hasn't learned since the stupid shopping spree on the bashir special.... someone could have bought it for inner city kids instead, lord know how messed up they are in LA and can benefit from services... [Edited 1/8/09 13:28pm] | |
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purplecam said: Timmy84 said: Yeah, the Linn drums Prince used were very influential in modern music, plus Andre 3000 owes a debt of gratitude to Prince and George Clinton. That being said, a lot of the acts who take from MJ and Prince are missing the boat as to what those two were/are all about. That's no lie. I just wish these current acts would come up with their own style so that we don't have to keep saying "Wow, that sounds like a Prince song" or "he sounds like he's trying to sound like MJ or even Stevie". No one is trying to be themselves in music and I miss hearing a unique voice that sounds as good live as it does on record. Sad thing is people don't even realize how there's a lot of impersonators in the industry. Everything copied is now called original. Back then imitation was considered a form of flattery, now imitation is a form of faking the funk, when did the saying change all of a sudden? | |
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Timmy84 said: alphastreet said: but so many songs in the last 2-3 years have sounded mj and even if I hear them sounding similar to artists before mj, most of them did give albums like off the wall credit when discussing their music. The songs have a sense of MJ but they're not really because it's all from computerized instruments and no sense of soul, which you saw a lot of in "Off the Wall" and "Thriller". I never got that sense listening to the records that claim to be MJ-esque. kanye and pharell's number one sounded like a madtv or snl parody of blame it on the boogie didn't it haha | |
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Timmy84 said: purplecam said: That's no lie. I just wish these current acts would come up with their own style so that we don't have to keep saying "Wow, that sounds like a Prince song" or "he sounds like he's trying to sound like MJ or even Stevie". No one is trying to be themselves in music and I miss hearing a unique voice that sounds as good live as it does on record. Sad thing is people don't even realize how there's a lot of impersonators in the industry. Everything copied is now called original. Back then imitation was considered a form of flattery, now imitation is a form of faking the funk, when did the saying change all of a sudden? Good question. In a perfect world, we'd be calling these acts frauds cause that's what I think they are. And they wonder why album sales are dropping? Who wants to hear 12 tracks from a fraud? Certainly not me. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: Timmy84 said: Sad thing is people don't even realize how there's a lot of impersonators in the industry. Everything copied is now called original. Back then imitation was considered a form of flattery, now imitation is a form of faking the funk, when did the saying change all of a sudden? Good question. In a perfect world, we'd be calling these acts frauds cause that's what I think they are. And they wonder why album sales are dropping? Who wants to hear 12 tracks from a fraud? Certainly not me. but you listen to janet/rene? hahaha that was too easy | |
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alphastreet said: Timmy84 said: The songs have a sense of MJ but they're not really because it's all from computerized instruments and no sense of soul, which you saw a lot of in "Off the Wall" and "Thriller". I never got that sense listening to the records that claim to be MJ-esque. kanye and pharell's number one sounded like a madtv or snl parody of blame it on the boogie didn't it haha Yeah it was wack as fuck. | |
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vainandy said: Marrk said:
Michael is the main influence for young black singers these days, NOT Prince. Really? Are we talking about the same Michael here? I don't remember Michael being a shit hopper that never got past midtempo. From what I remember, Michael delivered some ass-shakin' jams. Well, Yeah! But you know, Yeah they're weak, you can see it there. Nobody in ruffles and heels screaming like they getting raped. P did that, Mike didn't. (allegedly, and i do believe!) In the 70's and 80's Mike was better and more influential, sold more, more influential simple as that, i saw plenty of white gloves in school, nothing P related, he waa the bad guy! (that's why i dug him too, i rooted for Darth Vader back in th 80's too, supercool!) I consider Prince a whole different game to Mike, alway have, since i saw him playing guitar like the 13yr old i was, never seen or heard a black guy do that, but i'd been a fan of Mike since before i could walk. I was Motown in the womb. Nobody will understand but these constant P vs Mj threads get me down so much. Apart from eyeliner and their age, they have nothing in common! | |
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Timmy84 said: alphastreet said: kanye and pharell's number one sounded like a madtv or snl parody of blame it on the boogie didn't it haha Yeah it was wack as fuck. actually I loved it, it was totally unserious and total crack and reminded me of something mj would have done | |
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alphastreet said: purplecam said: Good question. In a perfect world, we'd be calling these acts frauds cause that's what I think they are. And they wonder why album sales are dropping? Who wants to hear 12 tracks from a fraud? Certainly not me. but you listen to janet/rene? hahaha that was too easy Hey, she still sang and no one sounded like her. That's right! I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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alphastreet said: Timmy84 said: The songs have a sense of MJ but they're not really because it's all from computerized instruments and no sense of soul, which you saw a lot of in "Off the Wall" and "Thriller". I never got that sense listening to the records that claim to be MJ-esque. kanye and pharell's number one sounded like a madtv or snl parody of blame it on the boogie didn't it haha That song and video is wack as hell. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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I love her voice too, it's so pretty and I think she should have really done a Sade-esque album like the label wanted. Jazzy stuff would really suit her voice | |
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alphastreet said: I love her voice too, it's so pretty and I think she should have really done a Sade-esque album like the label wanted. Jazzy stuff would really suit her voice
I would love to see her take a risk and do something like that too. She's too interested in dancing and while I'm down with that too, its not bringing too many new fans or even old fans to the record store to pick up her new CD's. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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