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Who Has The Better Chance At A Comeback? (Read)

Janet Jackson - Obviously the biggest icon out of the artist listed. Yet the sales of each of her last 3 albums have been lackluster, with Discipline not even reaching GOLD (500k) after almost a year. She struggles to get radio airplay and hasn't had a Top 10 single since 2001. Her tour (especially in contrast with her counterpart Madonna) has pailed in comparison to her earlier shows and Box Office Scores.

Jennifer Lopez - In the early part of the 21st century, Jennifer was on the rise while Mariah was viewed as a washed-up has-been. Her 2nd album spawned multiple hits that ruled the airwaves and seemed to find a steady career outside of acting. In 2005 both women would release albums in a relatively close period. This time, however, the flop belonged to Lopez while Carey's 'Emancipation' was dubbed one of the greatest comebacks of all time. Notably less of a media presence than she used to be, Lopez got to take a shot at her own comeback in late 2007. She failed. Miserably. Brave would not even reach 350,000 in sales.

Ashanti - For someone who was just coming off a 3x Platinum album the year before, the pressure was on Ashanti to deliver another successful album. She didn't fail, but the hype, numbers, and awards for her Chapter II didn't come close to matching her debut. Her third album produced a moderate hit in 'Only U' but failed to reach the top of the Billboard 200 (something her two previous cd's did) and to hit a million copies in sales. The Declaration would drop in 2008, a period in time where Beyonce and relative newcomer Rihanna absorbed most of the attention away from her.

Ashlee Simpson - Never an expected success story, Jessica's little sister stunned the entire planet in 04 by selling truckloads. She even managed to outshine, well, Jessica...by topping her entire discography and reaching the top of the Billboard 200 (something the then-Mrs. Lachey never has done). Her October SNL-appearance, however, seemed to be a complete disaster for career. Her debut single and album would both remain her biggest hits, while I Am Me failed to go Platinum and Bittersweet World became one of the biggest flops of 2008.

Brandy - 15 years old, 4x Platinum. 19 years old, 5x Platinum. 25 years old, Gold. 29 years old, Nothing. See a pattern? Brandy's story is a bit interesting because she's one of those artists who like to make an album, go away, and then come back 3 or 4 years later. It worked twice for her. Her sophmore album was a huge hit, aided by 2 radio hits that turned into 2 #1 singles. Then of course she went under a rock, got pregnant, and re-emerged a couple years later. ...This time she wasn't that successful as before. Full Moon become a moderate hit but was largely overshadowed by a newcomer named Ashanti (see above). Returning 2 years later with Afrodisiac, it became her first album not to go Platinum or produce any Top 10 singles. Human, however, proved to be even more of a flop by debuting outside of the Top 10 of the Billboard 200 (a rare occurence for an established act), and struggling to even go GOLD.

Monica - See Brandy.
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Reply #1 posted 01/05/09 10:49am

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Since Brandy can out sing all of them with a sore throat even, my money is on her. If I had to make an assumption about who the record company is going to put 3 million dollars behind them, I'd say none of 'em.
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Reply #2 posted 01/05/09 12:12pm

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I think that Brandy's last album is her last hurrah, no more comebacks for her. The rest of them can barely sing (they maybe should visit T-Pain on how to use the auto-tune....). Janet has the best chance of coming back only IF she hooks up with Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis.
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Reply #3 posted 01/05/09 12:17pm

Timmy84

Janet.
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Reply #4 posted 01/05/09 12:24pm

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its a toss up between Brandy & Janet
J.lo is gone and she aint coming back, it'd have to a be a miracle
Ashlee? lmfao falloff
Janet (or her record company) makes alot of bad business decisions, I don't even think she likes the music she makes...
She needs to get back with Jimmy Jam and terry, Track down Q-tip or Kamaal mohammad bean pie ali, whatever he's calling himself, and start enjoying what she makes...
cause following the industry trend is a failure for falling stars...
If they're not true to themselves, they'll fade
Same goes for Brandy
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Reply #5 posted 01/05/09 12:36pm

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A comeback? Hell, I didn't know any of them were gone.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #6 posted 01/05/09 12:59pm

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What are they coming back to?? a dead music industry? I mean seriously already, what are they going to do, put out a record that will probably sell about 300,000 copies in the states, i mean that is what is gonna happen, live with it, thats the average number now for the TOP sellers. And also these artists never went anywhere, they are all still recording. Once again "comeback" is a useless term, unless you are talking about some kind of sporting event, Comeback is used now everytime an artist puts out a record after taking a few years off, its just a marketing scam. Almost all these artists were big sellers when music sold, basically the middle 90's up to 2000, and thats when it ended for the industry, we need to all accept this and stop living in the past. ALSO JLO is about to hit 40 janet is over 40 and Ashanti is 30 which is considered OLD in this AGE-ISM era, so whats the point.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #7 posted 01/05/09 1:03pm

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Out of all of them, I think Janet is the most determined and most likely to reestablish herself in the Pop/R&B arena.

Even though her last three albums are all considered disappointments, they all peaked in the Top 2 of the Billboard 200, collectively scanned over 2 million units in the USA, and yielded hits on various genre charts ("Call On Me" #1 R&B, "All Nite (Don't Stop)" and "So Excited" both #1 Dance, "I Want You" #18 R&B, "Feedback" #19 Hot 100, #1 Dance.) "Feedback" even peaked at #7 on the Hot Digital Songs chart signaling signs of a comeback (that didn't come to fruition) during the Discipline album launch.

I'm definitely rooting for her. Janet is one of my favorite artists and I think she's definitely the most talented (and legendary) out of that pool of ladies.
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Reply #8 posted 01/05/09 1:06pm

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Human, however, proved to be even more of a flop by debuting outside of the Top 10 of the Billboard 200 (a rare occurence for an established act), and struggling to even go GOLD.

lmao!!!
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Reply #9 posted 01/05/09 1:06pm

Wowugotit

Ashlee Simpson - LMFAO!!!!!
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Reply #10 posted 01/05/09 1:10pm

SoulAlive

In this era of declining CD sales,I think these ladies had better find other ways to make money and remain relevent.There won't be any major "comebacks",those days are over.
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Reply #11 posted 01/05/09 1:24pm

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amit1234 said:

Out of all of them, I think Janet is the most determined and most likely to reestablish herself in the Pop/R&B arena.

Even though her last three albums are all considered disappointments, they all peaked in the Top 2 of the Billboard 200, collectively scanned over 2 million units in the USA, and yielded hits on various genre charts ("Call On Me" #1 R&B, "All Nite (Don't Stop)" and "So Excited" both #1 Dance, "I Want You" #18 R&B, "Feedback" #19 Hot 100, #1 Dance.) "Feedback" even peaked at #7 on the Hot Digital Songs chart signaling signs of a comeback (that didn't come to fruition) during the Discipline album launch.

I'm definitely rooting for her. Janet is one of my favorite artists and I think she's definitely the most talented (and legendary) out of that pool of ladies.
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"Discipline" debuted at No. 1.
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Reply #12 posted 01/05/09 1:36pm

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vainandy said:

A comeback? Hell, I didn't know any of them were gone.

I know. They keep saying Britney had a comeback in 08, but hell, her last album was released in 07 (and did well). Where did she comeback from (besides the negative press)?
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Reply #13 posted 01/05/09 1:49pm

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Call me crazy, but I have a soft spot for Ashlee Simpson. Her first album was actually very good. But unfortunately she got away from the rock influenced stuff that suited her and tried to be a boring pop star like everyone else. On her last album, she went too far in that direction. The only songs on there that were any good were songs like Little Miss Obssessive which retained a rock feel.
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Reply #14 posted 01/05/09 1:53pm

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Glindathegood said:

Call me crazy, but I have a soft spot for Ashlee Simpson. Her first album was actually very good. But unfortunately she got away from the rock influenced stuff that suited her and tried to be a boring pop star like everyone else. On her last album, she went too far in that direction. The only songs on there that were any good were songs like Little Miss Obssessive which retained a rock feel.

Her first album was good, because John Shanks the producer is a rock & roll magician when it comes to modern rock production and song writing,
Ashlee herself had nothing to do with it being great!
but I understand the sentiment
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Reply #15 posted 01/05/09 1:55pm

Wowugotit

ashlee simpson is a piece of shit
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Reply #16 posted 01/05/09 1:57pm

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Wowugotit said:

ashlee simpson is a piece of shit

now now lets be civil
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Reply #17 posted 01/05/09 2:07pm

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Her first album was good, because John Shanks the producer is a rock & roll magician when it comes to modern rock production and song writing,
Ashlee herself had nothing to do with it being great!
but I understand the sentiment


But she chose him as her producer, so she must have had something to do with that choice. She chose to go in a more pop direction, which she said in many interviews and away from the modern rock sound, which to me was a mistake. People criticize her but some of her lyrics are actualy quite good. I've seen her interviewed and I don't think she's the airhead stupid person some people think she is. I think she did write some of the melodies and lyrics on her albums so she's not without talent. However, I do find her voice very weak. She really can't sing live at all.
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Glindathegood said:

EmbattledWarrior said:


Her first album was good, because John Shanks the producer is a rock & roll magician when it comes to modern rock production and song writing,
Ashlee herself had nothing to do with it being great!
but I understand the sentiment


But she chose him as her producer, so she must have had something to do with that choice. She chose to go in a more pop direction, which she said in many interviews and away from the modern rock sound, which to me was a mistake. People criticize her but some of her lyrics are actualy quite good. I've seen her interviewed and I don't think she's the airhead stupid person some people think she is. I think she did write some of the melodies and lyrics on her albums so she's not without talent. However, I do find her voice very weak. She really can't sing live at all.

I don't think She chose him, He's an industry whore and probably on speed dial from every label exec, Kelly Clarkson, Hilary Duff etc... all shanks...
those albums were great too, because of him...
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Reply #19 posted 01/05/09 2:30pm

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Brandy.
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Reply #20 posted 01/05/09 6:37pm

SoulAlive

Whatever happened to J-Lo's acting career? confuse Now that her music career is dead,she's gonna need the acting career to fall back on.The same goes for Brandy too.These ladies should start auditioning for sitcom work or something.
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Reply #21 posted 01/05/09 6:38pm

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SoulAlive said:

Whatever happened to J-Lo's acting career? confuse Now that her music career is dead,she's gonna need the acting career to fall back on.The same goes for Brandy too.These ladies should start auditioning for sitcom work or something.

acting career...
thats long gone! lol
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Reply #22 posted 01/05/09 6:41pm

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EmbattledWarrior said:

SoulAlive said:

Whatever happened to J-Lo's acting career? confuse Now that her music career is dead,she's gonna need the acting career to fall back on.The same goes for Brandy too.These ladies should start auditioning for sitcom work or something.

acting career...
thats long gone! lol


She should try to get work on a sitcom,or create a sitcom herself and pitch it to the networks.
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Reply #23 posted 01/05/09 6:43pm

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SoulAlive said:

EmbattledWarrior said:


acting career...
thats long gone! lol


She should try to get work on a sitcom,or create a sitcom herself and pitch it to the networks.

Sitcom?
You know Vh1 & MTV are gonna battle for the Jenny From The Block reality T.V. show
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Reply #24 posted 01/05/09 7:04pm

SoulAlive

as for Janet....I don't think her situation is gonna change until she makes some drastic changes and tries something new.She has proven to be an unreliable touring act,which is a shame since that's one of the major ways for her to make money these days.
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Reply #25 posted 01/06/09 7:01am

SoulAlive

as for Ashanti...thankfully,her time is up lol I never understood what the hype was all about.Her songs are vapid and weightless.
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Reply #26 posted 01/06/09 7:06am

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Wowugotit said:

Human, however, proved to be even more of a flop by debuting outside of the Top 10 of the Billboard 200 (a rare occurence for an established act), and struggling to even go GOLD.

lmao!!!


Like I keep saying....gold is gonna become the new "platinum" lol Artists and labels are gonna have to lower their expectations and just be happy with a CD that reaches gold status.
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Reply #27 posted 01/06/09 7:07am

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they all should do an american idol type "call in to vote" series of concerts and be pitted one against the other over four months. Charging outrageous prices to come to see each battle. I want back stabbing, dirt dishing and Tonya Harding tactics.

after to seasons they should be well paid and hyped up fornew releases.

Not sure who I would have to judge thought- maybe Michael Jackson (in for Paula), Randy Jackson (original American idol) and Prince (in for Simon).
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Reply #28 posted 01/06/09 7:48am

Graycap23

Janet.
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Reply #29 posted 01/06/09 8:07am

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SoulAlive said:

Whatever happened to J-Lo's acting career? confuse Now that her music career is dead,she's gonna need the acting career to fall back on.The same goes for Brandy too.These ladies should start auditioning for sitcom work or something.



She's supposed to have a movie coming out later this year. I think she's better at acting (and dancing) than singing.shrug lol
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