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Thread started 01/04/09 9:51pm

MRGee

Do You Think Black Artists Have A Harder Time Than White ARTISTS?

Is this why TAMAR may be Harder to PUSH than BRIA?
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Reply #1 posted 01/04/09 9:55pm

japanrocks

both are hard to push because their music sucks eggs
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Reply #2 posted 01/04/09 10:02pm

errant

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Prince pulled the plug on Tamar, so ask him which he prefers.
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Reply #3 posted 01/04/09 11:15pm

Flowers2

of course they do..
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Reply #4 posted 01/05/09 2:40am

myloveis4ever

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Flowers2 said:

of course they do..


what about latino artists and asian artists?????
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Reply #5 posted 01/05/09 2:46am

abierman

no.
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Reply #6 posted 01/05/09 3:18am

Arnotts

Not right now, but in general yes.
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Reply #7 posted 01/05/09 6:20am

kenlacam

Um, no. As stated above, the quality of music is poor, has nothing to do with skin color. If that was the case, rap would be non-existent by now.
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Reply #8 posted 01/05/09 6:41am

TonyVanDam

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Q: Do You Think Black Artists Have A Harder Time Than White ARTISTS?

A: Yes. Just ask Little Richard.
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Reply #9 posted 01/05/09 6:44am

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myloveis4ever said:

Flowers2 said:

of course they do..


what about latino artists and asian artists?????


Besides YMO, I don't know any asian artists that had success in USA.

Latino artists had it better during the days of latin freestyle (more specifically 1985-92).
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Reply #10 posted 01/05/09 7:09am

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myloveis4ever said:

Flowers2 said:

of course they do..


what about latino artists and asian artists?????


clapping I wonder why the industry dont take them seriously either even if they do have talent.

As for Tamar..her album wasnt that great..that's about it. And I dont believe that. Look at Beyonce, Rihanna, Alecia Keys. And I think if more black artists start doing more REAL music instead of using hip hop drum machines all the time and branch out rather than doing the same thing then maybe they would become more fruitful intheir careers.
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Reply #11 posted 01/05/09 7:10am

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No. Actually they have an easier time than white artists because the only thing that most of them have to do is push buttons on a damn computer and sample someone else's old song. And everything they make is so damn slow that they could basically just sit on a stool and perform it.

Wait a minute.....you said black artists.....oh, those don't exist anymore, at least not on the radio. So I guess black artists actually would have it harder than white artists because black artists these days can't even get a record deal.
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Reply #12 posted 01/05/09 7:15am

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vainandy said:

No. Actually they have an easier time than white artists because the only thing that most of them have to do is push buttons on a damn computer and sample someone else's old song. And everything they make is so damn slow that they could basically just sit on a stool and perform it.

Wait a minute.....you said black artists.....oh, those don't exist anymore, at least not on the radio. So I guess black artists actually would have it harder than white artists because black artists these days can't even get a record deal.
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u better tell it
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Reply #13 posted 01/05/09 7:25am

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paisleypark4 said:

vainandy said:

No. Actually they have an easier time than white artists because the only thing that most of them have to do is push buttons on a damn computer and sample someone else's old song. And everything they make is so damn slow that they could basically just sit on a stool and perform it.

Wait a minute.....you said black artists.....oh, those don't exist anymore, at least not on the radio. So I guess black artists actually would have it harder than white artists because black artists these days can't even get a record deal.
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u better tell it


You know it! It's 2009 now and my New Year's resolution is to be an even meaner, bolder, no holds barred, shit talking bitch than ever before. lol
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Reply #14 posted 01/05/09 7:35am

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TonyVanDam said:

Q: Do You Think Black Artists Have A Harder Time Than White ARTISTS?

A: Yes. Just ask Little Richard.

BINGO!!!
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Reply #15 posted 01/05/09 9:59am

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Well, since the music industry - like almost every other business in America - is a microcosm of America, and racism/discrimination exists in America, then the answer is yes.
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Reply #16 posted 01/05/09 11:03am

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Those with deals or without? those signed to majors? or not? those with genuine talent? Those willing to go out of their comfort zone musically?

I. just. dont. fucking. know!

And the state current mainstream music is in, i rapidly don't give a fuck, black or white? it's mostly shit what is pushed on me these days.
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Reply #17 posted 01/05/09 1:55pm

Riverpoet31

what kind of nonsense is this?
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Reply #18 posted 01/05/09 2:04pm

junebug18

Back in the day? Well yes of course we did, We used to struggle, (even the Motown artist struggled).

Right now??? Not so much,.....The biggest selling artists and billbaord artist of the year, and the ones with all the current hits and stuff etc. are mostly the same black artist for their generation: Chris Brown, Lil Wayne, Rianna, Beyonce, Mary J Blige, Alicia Keys, Usher, 50 Cent, Kanye etc...

I ain't saying that its completely gone, but us blacks obviously get less of a hard time nowadays.
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Reply #19 posted 01/05/09 3:20pm

Riverpoet31

Nope, black artists simply whine a bit harder
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Reply #20 posted 01/05/09 3:52pm

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MRGee said:

Is this why TAMAR may be Harder to PUSH than BRIA?


Cool. I have absolutely no idea who we are talking about eek
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Reply #21 posted 01/05/09 3:54pm

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vainandy said:

No. Actually they have an easier time than white artists because the only thing that most of them have to do is push buttons on a damn computer and sample someone else's old song. And everything they make is so damn slow that they could basically just sit on a stool and perform it.

Wait a minute.....you said black artists.....oh, those don't exist anymore, at least not on the radio. So I guess black artists actually would have it harder than white artists because black artists these days can't even get a record deal.
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Reply #22 posted 01/05/09 4:58pm

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TonyVanDam said:


Besides YMO, I don't know any asian artists that had success in USA.


I know! I've been waiting the past two years for Rain from Korea to make it here in the US. confused
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Reply #23 posted 01/05/09 5:14pm

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MRGee said:

Is this why TAMAR may be Harder to PUSH than BRIA?



I predict the opposite. If U're referring to sales, based on what I've seen and heard from both of them so far, it will be much harder for Prince's concept for Bria to be appealing to the varying masses in the US than it would have been for Tamar. Neither will be, for example, Janet or Beyonce in terms of popularity, but I think Tamar would have been closer to their level of stardom.
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Reply #24 posted 01/05/09 6:45pm

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Riverpoet31 said:

Nope, black artists simply whine a bit harder


Why wouldn't they if they have to play the political game
to get a major label deal and good royalties or the budget
that white artists generally get?
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This is a no-brainer, absolutely. The recording budget fund for acts of African diaspora is also much smaller. Urban music at one-time dominated popular music charts, but the budgets were sometimes 50% less than Caucasian acts.
Also when you look at old school acts or legends, not too many Black acts can fill an arena or stadium. Acts like The Eagles, The Rolling Stones, Elton John/Billy Joel and Madonna can do this with relative ease. I reconize that Blacks only make up 12% of the US population, but look at the spots on the charts and in the context of their contribution to music.
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Reply #26 posted 01/06/09 1:11am

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Damn, Andrea. You hit the sharpest nail on the baldest head, child thumbs up!
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Reply #27 posted 01/06/09 1:11am

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you think? :/
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WaterInYourBath said:

TonyVanDam said:


Besides YMO, I don't know any asian artists that had success in USA.


I know! I've been waiting the past two years for Rain from Korea to make it here in the US. confused

Utada is currently trying to break in the US

Crystal Kay is working on her stateside debut. She's successful in Japan (she's biracial/korean and black)

I wanna see Chemistry break into the American market
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Reply #29 posted 01/06/09 6:52am

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RnBAmbassador said:

This is a no-brainer, absolutely. The recording budget fund for acts of African diaspora is also much smaller. Urban music at one-time dominated popular music charts, but the budgets were sometimes 50% less than Caucasian acts.
Also when you look at old school acts or legends, not too many Black acts can fill an arena or stadium. Acts like The Eagles, The Rolling Stones, Elton John/Billy Joel and Madonna can do this with relative ease. I reconize that Blacks only make up 12% of the US population, but look at the spots on the charts and in the context of their contribution to music.


Sorry i disagree here. Those acts fill arenas because their music transcends generations, whether they're good or bad is out of the question. Stevie Wonder, Prince and MJ can/could still fill arenas, as can Tina Turner. I think Outkast could too if you wanted a contemporary act.

I don't think its a real race issue anymore. Some of the most powerful people in music are black and they have a responsibility now and they're not being responsible and nuturing black artists, the kind that could be around in 10/20 years. they have the funds and the influence if they truly wanted to. The bottom line is that it's all about money. It's easier to market the same old shit-hop drivel and sell it to the dumb masses.
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