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Thread started 12/27/08 9:32pm

paisleypark4

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Mariah Cancels Tour...

THIS MORNING I CHECKED A MAJOR MARIAH MEDIA SOURCE AND FOUND THIS NEWS. I CHECKED SOME SOURCES CLOSER TO HER AND LEARNED THAT TOUR IS IN THE HAMPER. NOT ONLY THAT BUT THE “E=MC2″ RE-RELEASE HAS BEEN SCRAPPED. THE OUTCOME OF RECORDING SESSIONS WITH R KELLY, THE DREAM, JERMAINE DUPRE, SWIZZ BEATZ AND KANYE WEST WILL BE CARRIED OVER TO M’S NEXT ALBUM WHICH IS EXPECTED IN LATE 2009 OR EARLY 2010. A PREGNANCY HAS TO BE THE REASON FOR THIS.

SO THERE YOU HAVE IT…NO MARIAH TOUR THIS SUMMER…

I KNOW DEF JAM HAS TO BE LIVID ABOUT THIS. THEY’VE SPENT MILLIONS ON THIS ALBUMS PROMO, EVEN ENDING THERE RELATIONSHIP WITH JANET JACKSON TO PUMP FUNDS MARIAH’S WAY.

MARIAH HOWEVER WILL BE HELPING COLUMBIA/LEGACY RECORDS MOVE A FEW COPIES OF HER “BALLADS” COLLECTION. IT WON’T BE A TOUR BUT A FEW SHOWS ARE BEING SCHEDULED IN MAJOR CITIES TO PROMOTE THE DISC. I WOULDN’T BE SURPRISED IF SHE DID SOME LATE NIGHT TOO.

NONE OF MARIAH’S DEF JAM RECORDS HITS (ANYTHING FROM THE EMANCIPATION OR E=MC2) APPEAR ON THIS COMPILATION.
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Oh well...i didnt like that album anyway.
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Reply #1 posted 12/27/08 9:36pm

SoulAlive

First Janet does a half-assed tour with cancelled dates and postponements,and now Mariah cancels her tour.Can't these ladies get their shit together and tour? lol

In Mariah's case....if she's pregnant then I guess she has a legitimate excuse.
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Reply #2 posted 12/27/08 9:39pm

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paisleypark4 said:

[i] THIS MORNING I CHECKED A MAJOR MARIAH MEDIA SOURCE AND FOUND THIS NEWS. I CHECKED SOME SOURCES CLOSER TO HER AND LEARNED THAT TOUR IS IN THE HAMPER. NOT ONLY THAT BUT THE “E=MC2″ RE-RELEASE HAS BEEN SCRAPPED. THE OUTCOME OF RECORDING SESSIONS WITH R KELLY, THE DREAM, JERMAINE DUPRE, SWIZZ BEATZ AND KANYE WEST WILL BE CARRIED OVER TO M’S NEXT ALBUM WHICH IS EXPECTED IN LATE 2009 OR EARLY 2010. A PREGNANCY HAS TO BE THE REASON FOR THIS.


It has nothing to do with pregnancy. The album underperformed, so they scrapped the tour and the rerelease. It's really very simple.

MARIAH HOWEVER WILL BE HELPING COLUMBIA/LEGACY RECORDS MOVE A FEW COPIES OF HER “BALLADS” COLLECTION. IT WON’T BE A TOUR BUT A FEW SHOWS ARE BEING SCHEDULED IN MAJOR CITIES TO PROMOTE THE DISC. I WOULDN’T BE SURPRISED IF SHE DID SOME LATE NIGHT TOO.


I'll believe it when I see it. She has no reason in the world to promote that collection, and she hasn't done a single thing for it before or after its release.
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Reply #3 posted 12/27/08 9:55pm

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yeah, i don't buy pregnancy as a reason to scrap a re-release.
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Reply #4 posted 12/27/08 9:59pm

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as much as i love her, her tours are becoming sickening anyway. it's been the same damn setlist since 1901.
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Reply #5 posted 12/27/08 10:23pm

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What's with these homies dissin' my girl??

Why do they gotta front?
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Reply #6 posted 12/27/08 10:34pm

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^ i'm still holding a grudge ever since the cancellation of the Dubai concert earlier this year hmph!

you're good cinnie lol
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Reply #7 posted 12/27/08 11:28pm

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Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans...

SoulAlive said:

First Janet does a half-assed tour with cancelled dates and postponements,and now Mariah cancels her tour.Can't these ladies get their shit together and tour? lol

In Mariah's case....if she's pregnant then I guess she has a legitimate excuse.
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Reply #8 posted 12/28/08 12:35am

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Who cares anyway?????

It will only b another case of her parading around showing her tits, thighs and ass anyway!!!!! lol lol lol

Although of late, I have noticed that she has been dressing a bit more modestly sincer her marriage 2 Nick Cannon!!!!nod nod
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Reply #9 posted 12/28/08 1:37am

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What's with these homies dissin' my girl??

Why do they gotta front?



haha nice cinnie. buddy holly huh?
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Reply #10 posted 12/28/08 4:05am

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The only reason i could get through the MIMI shows were the fact that she looked amazing, but the music and setlist were all just boring.

Also did anyone think she was going to tour? Why would she now a year after the album came out? And honestly there is no reason to tour unless you are going to something different than what you have been doing already.

Mariah needs to clean house, as do a few others. She needs a total overhaul, by the time her next album comes out she will be turning 40, so the day is coming when she will have to drop this whole "lets get whoever is hot right now to guest on my record" this is the main reason all her albums are becoming nothing but filler, and the album cuts are becoming interwoven.

Now for the people that think that Mariah "slowing down" or "altering the music" means "boring", but SORRY, right now she is BORING, i mean the "glitter" album was the last one that seemed to have life in it. For the most part the last 12 years of Mariah has been a midtempo fest, and its boring.

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Reply #11 posted 12/28/08 4:07am

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She won't tour because her voice can't handle it. She has damaged it. So many singers today don't know how to use their voice and have ruined it in the process...Alicia Keys, Mariah...trust me, Christina Aguilera's next...
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Reply #12 posted 12/28/08 4:20am

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Mong said:

She won't tour because her voice can't handle it. She has damaged it. So many singers today don't know how to use their voice and have ruined it in the process...Alicia Keys, Mariah...trust me, Christina Aguilera's next...


Mariah has had voice issues for over a decade now and never adjusted her singing to the issue. Her songs need to be re-arranged if she wants to tour and make them sound proper, or else she will have to keep doing overdubs, and pre-recorded vocals like she and others have been doing. Elton John had a similar issue with vocals and had to have surgery back in 1987, that surgery forced elton to have re-arrange all his songs, now he sings in a lower register, as opposed to the higher notes he could hit throughout the 70's. I suspect that Mariah had this issue and never fixed it and is now at a point where nothing can be done for it.

And just the economics of her to tour are not wise, the label lost ALOT of $$ on the latest album, I mean just that stupid stunt of lighting the Empire State Building in MIMI colors put this whole project at a loss. She would have needed to exceed her last albums worldwide sales just to break even, and to manys surprise this album did not do well in the European market, which is an area that Mariah has always been strong in.

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lastdecember said:
Mong said:
She won't tour because her voice can't handle it. She has damaged it. So many singers today don't know how to use their voice and have ruined it in the process...Alicia Keys, Mariah...trust me, Christina Aguilera's next...


Mariah has had voice issues for over a decade now and never adjusted her singing to the issue. Her songs need to be re-arranged if she wants to tour and make them sound proper, or else she will have to keep doing overdubs, and pre-recorded vocals like she and others have been doing. Elton John had a similar issue with vocals and had to have surgery back in 1987, that surgery forced elton to have re-arrange all his songs, now he sings in a lower register, as opposed to the higher notes he could hit throughout the 70's. I suspect that Mariah had this issue and never fixed it and is now at a point where nothing can be done for it.

And just the economics of her to tour are not wise, the label lost ALOT of $$ on the latest album, I mean just that stupid stunt of lighting the Empire State Building in MIMI colors put this whole project at a loss. She would have needed to exceed her last albums worldwide sales just to break even, and to manys surprise this album did not do well in the European market, which is an area that Mariah has always been strong in.


I thought that Japan was her strongest market outside of the USA. I thought she was just so-so in Europe. At any rate, the album didn't do so hot in the first place, and if there was any time for her to go on tour to support the album, it would have been this past summer. Canceling the tour now may be related to her pregnancy, but it may very well be a casualty of the current economic crisis as well, as it doesn't make much sense for a lot of artists to go on tour these days. Only the biggest name artists like Prince, U2 or the Rolling Stones or prolific live bands like Dave Matthews could afford to go on tour at this time.

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Reply #14 posted 12/28/08 10:41am

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728huey said:

lastdecember said:
Mong said:

Mariah has had voice issues for over a decade now and never adjusted her singing to the issue. Her songs need to be re-arranged if she wants to tour and make them sound proper, or else she will have to keep doing overdubs, and pre-recorded vocals like she and others have been doing. Elton John had a similar issue with vocals and had to have surgery back in 1987, that surgery forced elton to have re-arrange all his songs, now he sings in a lower register, as opposed to the higher notes he could hit throughout the 70's. I suspect that Mariah had this issue and never fixed it and is now at a point where nothing can be done for it.

And just the economics of her to tour are not wise, the label lost ALOT of $$ on the latest album, I mean just that stupid stunt of lighting the Empire State Building in MIMI colors put this whole project at a loss. She would have needed to exceed her last albums worldwide sales just to break even, and to manys surprise this album did not do well in the European market, which is an area that Mariah has always been strong in.


I thought that Japan was her strongest market outside of the USA. I thought she was just so-so in Europe. At any rate, the album didn't do so hot in the first place, and if there was any time for her to go on tour to support the album, it would have been this past summer. Canceling the tour now may be related to her pregnancy, but it may very well be a casualty of the current economic crisis as well, as it doesn't make much sense for a lot of artists to go on tour these days. Only the biggest name artists like Prince, U2 or the Rolling Stones or prolific live bands like Dave Matthews could afford to go on tour at this time.

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As for touring artists are gonna have to look in the mirror and if they have the control they are gonna have to get a handle on these ticket prices. An upcoming Elton and Billy Joel tour has a majority of tickets at $49.50, which at this point is where artists are gonna have to set alot of tickets, especially if they are doing stadium event sized shows, i understand they still all are going to do their "exclusives" and "gold circle" and those deals and charge a few hundred, and the reason for that is to just target the agencies that for years were able to operate legally, buy ILLEGALLY buying up tickets and selling them to die hards who had to go, dont doubt for a moment that TICKET MASTER was not in on a good portion of these agencies.

As for Mariah, a tour would just be dumb right now, unless you are going to do something special, like say a "small enviroment" club type gigs. But if she is gonna go out there and do the same tour all over again at this point, almost a year after the albums release, in this enviroment and her not being a big concert draw for the most part, its not smart.

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Reply #15 posted 12/28/08 11:14am

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lastdecember said:

The only reason i could get through the MIMI shows were the fact that she looked amazing, but the music and setlist were all just boring.

Also did anyone think she was going to tour? Why would she now a year after the album came out? And honestly there is no reason to tour unless you are going to something different than what you have been doing already.

Mariah needs to clean house, as do a few others. She needs a total overhaul, by the time her next album comes out she will be turning 40, so the day is coming when she will have to drop this whole "lets get whoever is hot right now to guest on my record" this is the main reason all her albums are becoming nothing but filler, and the album cuts are becoming interwoven.

Now for the people that think that Mariah "slowing down" or "altering the music" means "boring", but SORRY, right now she is BORING, i mean the "glitter" album was the last one that seemed to have life in it. For the most part the last 12 years of Mariah has been a midtempo fest, and its boring.


Actually I'm looking forward to the day when her tween fans jump ship, labels lose interest, and Mariah is forced to play small jazz clubs... I just want to see her standing still and belting out HER favorite tracks -- "Underneath The Stars," "The Roof," "Love Story" etc... If she does attempt another over-produced choreographed tour, I'm done.


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PricelessHo said:

as much as i love her, her tours are becoming sickening anyway. it's been the same damn setlist since 1901.


nod She's ota boring live.
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Reply #17 posted 12/28/08 12:54pm

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her fans are dying cause she cancelled the tour falloff
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Reply #18 posted 12/28/08 1:46pm

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She's seemed pregnant for the past 9 years or something. shrug
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Reply #19 posted 12/28/08 3:13pm

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Jude418 said:




[Edited 12/28/08 11:17am]



YES!

if the song sounded like that on the album then I would rave!
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Reply #20 posted 12/28/08 3:22pm

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So is her new movie 'Tennessee' finally gonna be released this year? I know it's been delayed a few times.
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Alej said:

her fans are dying cause she cancelled the tour falloff


link to the meltdowns for hilarity? lol


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Reply #22 posted 12/28/08 4:12pm

Cinnie

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Cinnie said:

What's with these homies dissin' my girl??

Why do they gotta front?



haha nice cinnie. buddy holly huh?


uh-huh lol No one else caught that, dancerella!

but forreal why dey hatin' on MRIuh
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Reply #23 posted 12/28/08 4:49pm

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PricelessHo said:

as much as i love her, her tours are becoming sickening anyway. it's been the same damn setlist since 1901.



Priceless, I'm shocked at you lol !
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Reply #24 posted 12/28/08 5:36pm

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xperience319 said:

Alej said:

her fans are dying cause she cancelled the tour falloff


link to the meltdowns for hilarity? lol


I would but it's a private ass message board but lawd it's hilarious falloff
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Reply #25 posted 12/28/08 5:38pm

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xperience319 said:

Alej said:

her fans are dying cause she cancelled the tour falloff


link to the meltdowns for hilarity? lol


ok so i know this is just a supposed rumor but now the tabloids are saying mariah has a baby on the way. we all know there has to be a reason WHY she called off the tour b/c she would never disapoint us. MC wouldn't just call off a tour b/c of a rumor and we know that lambs.

Mariah loves us too much to disapoint us so i believe the rumors are true.....theres gotta be a reason behind why mariah called off the tour.....

its right in our faces shes pregnant but doesnt want everyone knowing.


lol
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Reply #26 posted 12/28/08 6:38pm

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Ottensen said:

PricelessHo said:

as much as i love her, her tours are becoming sickening anyway. it's been the same damn setlist since 1901.



Priceless, I'm shocked at you lol !


did i just mock her age? omfg boxed

don't get me wrong though, you know if i heard the heffa is coming anywhere near me, i'll go running & that'll all jump outta the damned window lol

i am just tired of having a #1s tour over and over and over again stab

her excuse is fans get disappointed if they don't hear a classic. well, ok vision of love, make it happen, hero, dreamlover, those are classics she can keep as basics.

but the silly dancing sections? disbelief that mess should be cut down to one attempt per show and replaced with actual fan favorites (the roof, underneath the stars..)

+ aren't Someday and Love Takes Time also classics AND #1 songs, mariah? brick
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Reply #27 posted 12/28/08 6:48pm

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PricelessHo said:

Ottensen said:




Priceless, I'm shocked at you lol !


did i just mock her age? omfg boxed

don't get me wrong though, you know if i heard the heffa is coming anywhere near me, i'll go running & that'll all jump outta the damned window lol

i am just tired of having a #1s tour over and over and over again stab

her excuse is fans get disappointed if they don't hear a classic. well, ok vision of love, make it happen, hero, dreamlover, those are classics she can keep as basics.

but the silly dancing sections? disbelief that mess should be cut down to one attempt per show and replaced with actual fan favorites (the roof, underneath the stars..)

+ aren't Someday and Love Takes Time also classics AND #1 songs, mariah? brick


I dont buy that whole excuse from artists, not just Mariah. If you are an artist YOU have to evolve, theres nothing more that i hate than a laundry list of hits rolled out, if you have new material do it, if you have albums do different songs.

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Reply #28 posted 12/28/08 7:03pm

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lastdecember said:



I dont buy that whole excuse from artists, not just Mariah. If you are an artist YOU have to evolve, theres nothing more that i hate than a laundry list of hits rolled out, if you have new material do it, if you have albums do different songs.


exactly. it's about putting on a good show afterall.

its true i might be surprised if i don't hear a certain classic, but if the show was done well and managed to keep me interested throughout then that can be easily forgotten.
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Reply #29 posted 12/29/08 6:34am

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PricelessHo said:

lastdecember said:



I dont buy that whole excuse from artists, not just Mariah. If you are an artist YOU have to evolve, theres nothing more that i hate than a laundry list of hits rolled out, if you have new material do it, if you have albums do different songs.


exactly. it's about putting on a good show afterall.

its true i might be surprised if i don't hear a certain classic, but if the show was done well and managed to keep me interested throughout then that can be easily forgotten.



Like said before, she should be suggested to play some small venues..or do her 80's stuff she loves to do. Maybe even a small covers album.
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