New topic
PrintableTonyVanDam said: vainandy said: This is the absolute worst album that Rick had ever made and is an embarassment to his name. This is exactly why I always say that older artists should stay retired rather than ruin their good name by making something that sounds like pure shit.
A lot of Rick James fans are just like Prince fans, or even Michael Jackson fans. When their favorite artist fucks up, they like to make excuses for them and try to justify what the artist did by saying the artist is "trying something new". Oh really? Trying something new huh? How is making an album that sounds like everything else on the radio these days trying something new? Y'all know me and y'all know I will tell it like it is whether it's Prince, Michael, or even Rick. Just admit it. Rick wanted to make an album he thought might possibly catch on with today's listeners regardless as to whether the music sounded shitty or not. That ain't called "making something new". That's called selling out. As for the arguements about Rick wanting the public to know that he was capable of making something other than funk, hell, we all knew that already. Just look at all the great slow jams he's made over the years. As for trying a new direction, why not rock? He was definately capable of making rock. Or why not house? He could have definately made some funky house. Instead, he chose to go the shit hop route. Oh, his last album wasn't shit hop? Well, he used those same weak sounding type drum machines that the shit hoppers use and drum machines that sound like that are the absolute definition of the shit hop sound. He also stayed at the same tempo they stay at and never passed it. And if it sounds like it would it in with today's radio in even the slightest then it sounds like shit hop and shit hop is unexcusable....period. Trying to beat the enemy may never kill shit hop but joining the enemy will only help shit hop grow. Andy has spoken dammitt. 
. . . [Edited 12/30/08 12:15pm] Taste is a kind of song that Ne-Yo and/or Chris Brown could have done and most likely have been a hit for their generation of hip-hop/r&b fans. For Rick to do THAT kind of song on their level is disappointing. I think I read somewhere a few years before Rick's death, that he was auctioning off things in his house and even auctioning off his old outfits such as the "Fire It Up" suit. Then, the day after his death, I remember seeing a reporter doing a broadcast outside of his apartment which appeared to be just a normal average apartment building that any old average joe could be in. When they did the autopsy report, they found that he had recently gotten back on drugs. I'm sure Rick still had it in him and was capable of throwing down but it was very apparent from all these circumstances that he was recording something that he hoped would sell to the masses. And we all know that the masses of today, means the shit hop sound. . . . [Edited 12/30/08 13:11pm] Andy is a four letter word. | |
- E-mail - orgNote -  Report post to moderator |
TonyVanDam said: SoulAlive said: Once the Isleys started working with R.Kelly,that's when I stopped buying their music. The nightmare start a lot sooner than that the moment the Isleys' 3+3 line-up broke up and both the Isley Jasper Isley faction and (especially) the elder Isleys faction started doing slow jams full-time and NEVER went back to The Funk ever again. At least IJI's Caravan Of Love is classic! But the elder Isleys never made another hit in any genre at all. Yeah the funk of the Isley Brothers family ended in 1984. RIP 3 + 3. [Edited 12/30/08 13:13pm] | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
vainandy said: I think I read somewhere a few years before Rick's death, that he was auctioning off things in his house and even auctioning off his old outfits such as the "Fire It Up" suit. Then, the day after his death, I remember seeing a reporter doing a broadcast outside of his apartment which appeared to be just a normal average apartment building that any old average joe could be in. When they did the autopsy report, they found that he had recently gotten back on drugs. I'm sure Rick still had it in him and was capable of throwing down but it was very apparent from all these circumstances that he was recording something that he hoped would sell to the masses. And we all know that the masses of today, means the shit hop sound. . . . [Edited 12/30/08 13:11pm] I don't know if they still have those videos on YouTube, but there was footage from Rick's final months alive and he was filmed through night vision and he seemed like he was back on the stuff in those videos.  I think they put them out around the time Rick's supposed sex video was going to be released. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Timmy84 said: vainandy said: I think I read somewhere a few years before Rick's death, that he was auctioning off things in his house and even auctioning off his old outfits such as the "Fire It Up" suit. Then, the day after his death, I remember seeing a reporter doing a broadcast outside of his apartment which appeared to be just a normal average apartment building that any old average joe could be in. When they did the autopsy report, they found that he had recently gotten back on drugs. I'm sure Rick still had it in him and was capable of throwing down but it was very apparent from all these circumstances that he was recording something that he hoped would sell to the masses. And we all know that the masses of today, means the shit hop sound. . . . [Edited 12/30/08 13:11pm] I don't know if they still have those videos on YouTube, but there was footage from Rick's final months alive and he was filmed through night vision and he seemed like he was back on the stuff in those videos. I think they put them out around the time Rick's supposed sex video was going to be released.Sex video!? I'd love to see one of him in the 80s but the thought of Rick naked in the 2000s would be a nightmare! Hell, that would be enough to make me go straight. Andy is a four letter word. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
I saw this CD at FYE earlier (this month). I planned to go back and pick it up but after hearing some tracks on You Tube, I think I'm gonna pass. I think Rick was trying to get into the Adult Contemporary sound.
There's a interview from 99 or 2000 where he states he hated being labeled as a "funk artist". Rick also said he always wanted to do an all rock lp and concert. He wanted to "turn the amps up and wear jeans" but his label wouldn't see any money from it. Plus he was afraid he would alienate his black listeners. One of the things that I've always loved about Hendrix is that he did so much in the little time he was around. He was always jamming, recording, experimenting and writing music. P in the last 12 or 13 years has been hip to this also. Musicians have to try and do as much as they can before their time runs out. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
phunkdaddy said: bboy87 said: I didn't even bother buying it for several reasons
I knew it wasn't gonna be funky especially after Andy's review AND the cheap ass packaging  And the cheap ass sounding song Taste. they done wore "taste" the hell out on the radio in mpls. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
SPYZFAN1 said: I saw this CD at FYE earlier (this month). I planned to go back and pick it up but after hearing some tracks on You Tube, I think I'm gonna pass. I think Rick was trying to get into the Adult Contemporary sound.
There's a interview from 99 or 2000 where he states he hated being labeled as a "funk artist". Rick also said he always wanted to do an all rock lp and concert. He wanted to "turn the amps up and wear jeans" but his label wouldn't see any money from it. Plus he was afraid he would alienate his black listeners. One of the things that I've always loved about Hendrix is that he did so much in the little time he was around. He was always jamming, recording, experimenting and writing music. P in the last 12 or 13 years has been hip to this also. Musicians have to try and do as much as they can before their time runs out. Well it's his fault that he made so many funky grooves. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
|
Does anyone know what's the deal with Motown not re-releasing Rick's albums. It's hard to find the original albums on CD "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
bboy87 said: Does anyone know what's the deal with Motown not re-releasing Rick's albums. It's hard to find the original albums on CD
They're lazy. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: Does anyone know what's the deal with Motown not re-releasing Rick's albums. It's hard to find the original albums on CD
They're lazy. it's a damn shame. they shoulda been done put out a box set or something by now. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
BSK3478 said: Timmy84 said: They're lazy. it's a damn shame. they shoulda been done put out a box set or something by now. Remember this is the same company that waited four, five years after BET and MTV came on air to produce a music video (DeBarge's "Rhythm of the Night") and the same company that didn't get the RIAA to certify albums and singles because they didn't trust its system at first. So I'm not totally surprised. But maybe it's because Rick's family has control of the publishing. It's much the same with Stevie Wonder. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
vainandy said: This is the absolute worst album that Rick had ever made and is an embarassment to his name. This is exactly why I always say that older artists should stay retired rather than ruin their good name by making something that sounds like pure shit.
A lot of Rick James fans are just like Prince fans, or even Michael Jackson fans. When their favorite artist fucks up, they like to make excuses for them and try to justify what the artist did by saying the artist is "trying something new". Oh really? Trying something new huh? How is making an album that sounds like everything else on the radio these days trying something new? Y'all know me and y'all know I will tell it like it is whether it's Prince, Michael, or even Rick. Just admit it. Rick wanted to make an album he thought might possibly catch on with today's listeners regardless as to whether the music sounded shitty or not. That ain't called "making something new". That's called selling out. As for the arguements about Rick wanting the public to know that he was capable of making something other than funk, hell, we all knew that already. Just look at all the great slow jams he's made over the years. As for trying a new direction, why not rock? He was definately capable of making rock. Or why not house? He could have definately made some funky house. Instead, he chose to go the shit hop route. Oh, his last album wasn't shit hop? Well, he used those same weak sounding type drum machines that the shit hoppers use and drum machines that sound like that are the absolute definition of the shit hop sound. He also stayed at the same tempo they stay at and never passed it. And if it sounds like it would it in with today's radio in even the slightest then it sounds like shit hop and shit hop is unexcusable....period. Trying to beat the enemy may never kill shit hop but joining the enemy will only help shit hop grow. Andy has spoken dammitt.
. . . [Edited 12/30/08 12:15pm] for the most part, let's just agree to disagree... but I do agree with you that Rick was out to sell records. and for my money, 'Wonderful' is the worst album he ever made. Lady Cab Driver is one of the greatest songs ever! | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
bboy87 said: Does anyone know what's the deal with Motown not re-releasing Rick's albums. It's hard to find the original albums on CD
I know what you mean,and it's extremely frustrating! Go to any record store,look for Rick James CDs and all you will come across is 'Street Songs' and a bunch of useless compilations  Motown/Universal needs to get off their lazy asses and remaster/re-issue his entire catalog.Classic albums like 'Bustin Out Of L7' and 'Throwin' Down' should NOT be out of print!! It's a damn shame.
And don't even get me started about the Commodores' catalog | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
vainandy said: This is the absolute worst album that Rick had ever made and is an embarassment to his name. This is exactly why I always say that older artists should stay retired rather than ruin their good name by making something that sounds like pure shit.
A lot of Rick James fans are just like Prince fans, or even Michael Jackson fans. When their favorite artist fucks up, they like to make excuses for them and try to justify what the artist did by saying the artist is "trying something new". Oh really? Trying something new huh? How is making an album that sounds like everything else on the radio these days trying something new? Y'all know me and y'all know I will tell it like it is whether it's Prince, Michael, or even Rick. Just admit it. Rick wanted to make an album he thought might possibly catch on with today's listeners regardless as to whether the music sounded shitty or not. That ain't called "making something new". That's called selling out. As for the arguements about Rick wanting the public to know that he was capable of making something other than funk, hell, we all knew that already. Just look at all the great slow jams he's made over the years. As for trying a new direction, why not rock? He was definately capable of making rock. Or why not house? He could have definately made some funky house. Instead, he chose to go the shit hop route. Oh, his last album wasn't shit hop? Well, he used those same weak sounding type drum machines that the shit hoppers use and drum machines that sound like that are the absolute definition of the shit hop sound. He also stayed at the same tempo they stay at and never passed it. And if it sounds like it would it in with today's radio in even the slightest then it sounds like shit hop and shit hop is unexcusable....period. Trying to beat the enemy may never kill shit hop but joining the enemy will only help shit hop grow. Andy has spoken dammitt.
. . . [Edited 12/30/08 12:15pm] Uhh so if the music sounds good to me then i'm "making excuses" for Rick?
Prince was intentionally trying to reach white audiences when he made 1999 and Purple Rain, where those hiss "sellout albums"?? Ha. Trying to sell records is what "Wonderful" and "Urban Rhapsody" were all about. This record is about where Rick was artistically when he was in his 50's. If you expect artists to make hard funk when they're 50, Well you're going to be let down. As for trying a new direction, why not rock?
When Rick made "Glow" he claimed that was his rock n roll album. It was a massive failure. Or why not house?
drum machines that sound like that are the absolute definition of the shit hop sound.
I love hip hop, Ive been playing with hip-hop and rn'b groups since I was a kid, and there's no hip-hop on this record. Prince was one of the innovators of using drum machines in black music, so if you're mad that today's rnb and soul music uses drum machines, why the hell are you a Prince fan? I don't see how people think "Deeper Still" was selling-out. Every record between "Cold Blooded" and this one was Rick trying to sell out imo. Grasping for straws with 80's rock, Hip-hop, New Jack Swing, ect. This record is just Rick doing his thing like he hadn't in a long time, and I love it. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
I'm sure Rick still had it in him and was capable of throwing down but it was very apparent from all these circumstances that he was recording something that he hoped would sell to the masses. And we all know that the masses of today, means the shit hop sound.
I don't know if you're implying that Rick died broke, but in fact he died richer than he had ever been. His money from his records, teena, mary jane girls, hammer, other hip hop samples just grew and grew while he was in prison and he invested a lot after he got out. He left something close to sixty million, I read. Maybe he was just paranoid of the gov't pulling a James Brown on him | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
mrpunkfunk said: 'Wonderful' is the worst album he ever made.
This is the only Rick James album that I've never heard.I see it all the time in used record stores but something always stops me from buying it I wasn't too impressed with the two singles I heard ("Loosey's Rap",which is just alright,and the title track,which is a total bore).
I don't like the previous album 'The Flag'.It's an over-synthesized mess.....sounding cold and formulaic. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
paulf said:
Uhh so if the music sounds good to me then i'm "making excuses" for Rick? What "music"? Where was the real drums and bass on this record? Prince was intentionally trying to reach white audiences when he made 1999 and Purple Rain, where those hiss "sellout albums"?? Ha.
Apparently you don't know me at all. I'm not one of those Prince ass kissers. I never wanted Prince to crossover because I knew it would make his music weeker if he was successful at crossing over. And it did, "Around The World In A Day" was a complete change from his previous work and most of the stuff that followed it would never have been successful if he only had his R&B fans of the past to depend on. No, I'm the one that doesn't like crossing over and never have. And when Prince fucks up, I don't hesitate to speak my mind on him either. I wasn't singling Rick out by no means. He is my second favorite entertainer of all time. However, I won't kiss his ass either, just like I won't kiss Prince's ass. Trying to sell records is what "Wonderful" and "Urban Rhapsody" were all about. This record is about where Rick was artistically when he was in his 50's. If you expect artists to make hard funk when they're 50, Well you're going to be let down.
Yes I do expect artists to make hard funk when they are in their 50s. Hell, The Barkays did. Age ain't nothing but a number. Just because you get older doesn't mean you have to become dull. Hell, when I get too old to shake my ass standing up, I'll be turned over on my side shaking my ass in the bed at a nursing home. I love hip hop, Ive been playing with hip-hop and rn'b groups since I was a kid, and there's no hip-hop on this record.
Shit hop isn't just rap. Shit hop is a sound and the definition of the shit hop sound is the sound of the drum machines that the shit hoppers use. The ones Rick used on this album have the same sound that everyone else uses these days. Prince was one of the innovators of using drum machines in black music, so if you're mad that today's rnb and soul music uses drum machines, why the hell are you a Prince fan?
Listen to the sound of Prince's drum machines in his early years. Do they have the same sound as the drum machines that these shit hoppers are using? No they don't. Prince's drum machines pounded hard similar to real drums and they were a completely different sound than the drum machines the shit hoppers have been using for the last 15 years which just barely tap and sound very weak and cheap sounding. House music musicians also use drum machines but their drum machines pound hard. Shit hop drum machines pound weak.....and worst of all.....they keep them slow as hell. I don't see how people think "Deeper Still" was selling-out. Every record between "Cold Blooded" and this one was Rick trying to sell out imo. Grasping for straws with 80's rock, Hip-hop, New Jack Swing, ect. This record is just Rick doing his thing like he hadn't in a long time, and I love it.
I don't give a damn if Rick, Prince, Michael, or anyone else wanted to sell out to pop, rock, country, or any other form of music. Their success in whatever genre they sell out to isn't hurting or affecting the state of R&B in any way other than maybe other R&B acts following their lead as in the case of Shitney Houston (which is another thread altogether). They weren't selling out to today's R&B sound which is shit hop. Shit hop has dominated for the last 15 years and everything else has been kept out of R&B radio because of it. How is shit hop going to die if older artists sell out to it and, if their sellout is successful, it helps shit hop grow even further? That's joining the side of the enemy that is the reason the recent funk attempts of recent artists couldn't get airplay in the first place. If it wasn't for shit hop, these older artists could make what they really want to make, which is funk, and get airplay. You'll never change my mind on folks selling out to shit hop because I hate shit hop with a fucking passion. . . . [Edited 12/31/08 13:56pm] Andy is a four letter word. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
|
SoulAlive said: bboy87 said: Does anyone know what's the deal with Motown not re-releasing Rick's albums. It's hard to find the original albums on CD
I know what you mean,and it's extremely frustrating! Go to any record store,look for Rick James CDs and all you will come across is 'Street Songs' and a bunch of useless compilations Motown/Universal needs to get off their lazy asses and remaster/re-issue his entire catalog.Classic albums like 'Bustin Out Of L7' and 'Throwin' Down' should NOT be out of print!! It's a damn shame.
And don't even get me started about the Commodores' catalog I went to Amoeba the other day and saw Greatest Hits Gold Anthology Street Songs (Deluxe Edition) and Wonderful If you're lucky, you'll see a old copy of Bustin' Out Of L 7"  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
SoulAlive said: mrpunkfunk said: 'Wonderful' is the worst album he ever made.
This is the only Rick James album that I've never heard.I see it all the time in used record stores but something always stops me from buying it I wasn't too impressed with the two singles I heard ("Loosey's Rap",which is just alright,and the title track,which is a total bore).
I don't like the previous album 'The Flag'.It's an over-synthesized mess.....sounding cold and formulaic. The only song I've heard from that album is Sweet And Sexy Thing, which is basically a weak version of Cold-Blooded. Basically the albums Glow & The Flag were Rick's version of Prince's Parade & 1999 , but in reverse order. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
I liked glow and the flag somewhat. I hated the wonderful album. That's
the album that sucked ass big time. Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
phunkdaddy said: I liked glow and the flag somewhat.
'Glow' is a pretty good album.Not great,but good.I couldn't get into 'The Flag'.It suffers from synthesizer overkill
I hated the wonderful album. That's the album that sucked ass big time.
Comments like yours is the reason why I can't bring myself to buy it...lol...I don't know of too many fans who actually like this album. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
SoulAlive said: mrpunkfunk said: 'Wonderful' is the worst album he ever made.
This is the only Rick James album that I've never heard.I see it all the time in used record stores but something always stops me from buying it
I don't like the previous album 'The Flag'.It's an over-synthesized mess.....sounding cold and formulaic. I had the same problem with 'Wonderful', I think its the album cover...sadly this was at the peak of Rick's drug use, so I don't think he was aware of what the hell he was wearing or what the hell the album truly sounded like. As for 'The Flag', yes it is synthesized pretty hard, but I do like the album, it has a lot of good elements to it. It could have been better, but hey, at least its not as bad as 'Wonderful'. Lady Cab Driver is one of the greatest songs ever! | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
SoulAlive said: mrpunkfunk said: 'Wonderful' is the worst album he ever made.
This is the only Rick James album that I've never heard.I see it all the time in used record stores but something always stops me from buying it I wasn't too impressed with the two singles I heard ("Loosey's Rap",which is just alright,and the title track,which is a total bore).
I don't like the previous album 'The Flag'.It's an over-synthesized mess.....sounding cold and formulaic. "Wonderful's" not great but it's better then "The Flag" easy IMO | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
^^LOL...two different opinions | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
As far as rick's flag album goes, the highlights for me were sweet and
sexy thing, forever and a day, r u experienced, and slow and easy. I liked the album cover too. Wave your freak flag baby. Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
vainandy said: paulf said:
Uhh so if the music sounds good to me then i'm "making excuses" for Rick? What "music"? Where was the real drums and bass on this record? Listen to the sound of Prince's drum machines in his early years. Do they have the same sound as the drum machines that these shit hoppers are using? No they don't. Prince's drum machines pounded hard similar to real drums and they were a completely different sound than the drum machines the shit hoppers have been using for the last 15 years which just barely tap and sound very weak and cheap sounding. House music musicians also use drum machines but their drum machines pound hard. Shit hop drum machines pound weak.....and worst of all.....they keep them slow as hell. I don't see how people think "Deeper Still" was selling-out. Every record between "Cold Blooded" and this one was Rick trying to sell out imo. Grasping for straws with 80's rock, Hip-hop, New Jack Swing, ect. This record is just Rick doing his thing like he hadn't in a long time, and I love it.
I don't give a damn if Rick, Prince, Michael, or anyone else wanted to sell out to pop, rock, country, or any other form of music. Their success in whatever genre they sell out to isn't hurting or affecting the state of R&B in any way other than maybe other R&B acts following their lead as in the case of Shitney Houston (which is another thread altogether). They weren't selling out to today's R&B sound which is shit hop. Shit hop has dominated for the last 15 years and everything else has been kept out of R&B radio because of it. How is shit hop going to die if older artists sell out to it and, if their sellout is successful, it helps shit hop grow even further? That's joining the side of the enemy that is the reason the recent funk attempts of recent artists couldn't get airplay in the first place. If it wasn't for shit hop, these older artists could make what they really want to make, which is funk, and get airplay. You'll never change my mind on folks selling out to shit hop because I hate shit hop with a fucking passion. . . . [Edited 12/31/08 13:56pm] You better preach the word..thank you Jesus 
Its people like Mary J, Jodeci and H-Town and all them that helped fuck everything up for the future. But partly to blame Teddy Riley who group the sound. However his sound was hard and thumping..stuff like I Want Her, I Like and Teddy Jam BEAT. Then the people who tried to copy the sound with their cheap and different instruemtns (here come Devante Swing and Puffy) with a mix of Anita Baker and Whitney Houston, Boy II Men influenced singers just went along for the ride...thus creating what Vainandy calls Shit-Hop. Hip Hop beats of today with R&B singers over them. Now it has been the trend and now there isnt a use for real producers and songwriters or even learning hotw to play an instruement...just find a hip hop producer to produce all your r&b songs and you are a hit What happened to all the black bands?Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
phunkdaddy said: As far as rick's flag album goes, the highlights for me were sweet and
sexy thing, forever and a day, r u experienced, and slow and easy. I liked the album cover too. Wave your freak flag baby. Agreed. I also like 'Free To Be Me'...this song to me sums up who Rick was, how he didn't care what anyone else thought about him or his 'habits'. I also like 'Save It For Me', I'm just a 'Flag' junkie I guess...lol.  Lady Cab Driver is one of the greatest songs ever! | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Its rick james. stop hatin'! You're so glam, every time I see you I wanna slam! | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
Who is rick James?
The most overrated artist on Prince.org  | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |
paisleypark4 said: vainandy said: I don't give a damn if Rick, Prince, Michael, or anyone else wanted to sell out to pop, rock, country, or any other form of music. Their success in whatever genre they sell out to isn't hurting or affecting the state of R&B in any way other than maybe other R&B acts following their lead as in the case of Shitney Houston (which is another thread altogether). They weren't selling out to today's R&B sound which is shit hop. Shit hop has dominated for the last 15 years and everything else has been kept out of R&B radio because of it. How is shit hop going to die if older artists sell out to it and, if their sellout is successful, it helps shit hop grow even further? That's joining the side of the enemy that is the reason the recent funk attempts of recent artists couldn't get airplay in the first place. If it wasn't for shit hop, these older artists could make what they really want to make, which is funk, and get airplay. You'll never change my mind on folks selling out to shit hop because I hate shit hop with a fucking passion. . . . [Edited 12/31/08 13:56pm] You better preach the word..thank you Jesus
Its people like Mary J, Jodeci and H-Town and all them that helped fuck everything up for the future. But partly to blame Teddy Riley who group the sound. However his sound was hard and thumping..stuff like I Want Her, I Like and Teddy Jam BEAT. Then the people who tried to copy the sound with their cheap and different instruemtns (here come Devante Swing and Puffy) with a mix of Anita Baker and Whitney Houston, Boy II Men influenced singers just went along for the ride...thus creating what Vainandy calls Shit-Hop. Hip Hop beats of today with R&B singers over them. Now it has been the trend and now there isnt a use for real producers and songwriters or even learning hotw to play an instruement...just find a hip hop producer to produce all your r&b songs and you are a hit What happened to all the black bands?Cameo, Bad Brains, & The Roots were THE only black bands that were still standing the last time I notice. None of them have top Billboard's Hot 100 USA Singles Charts as of late. | |
| - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator |