meow85 said:

yes it is.

sorry i'm going to go out on a limb and say i have alot more expereince in the ups and downs of the gay community... former escort & porn star, member of a Leather Club, Drag Queen, work for a gay media outlet and only live and operate in the gay sphere that i can tell you that there is no answer to this question and it is just that way.

if you don't like the answer please oh wise and most knowledgeable of gay life explain to me so i can take it back to the gay paper i work for that has existed for 20 years what we are doing wrong so we all can be living as millionaries?

englight me to why you think it is cause clearly my knowledge, and experience are minute and worthless compared to yours

VoicesCarry said:

Yes I know stereotpyes suck. But they will always exist so live with it LOL. Be insulted if you want, but you know Meow85 wasn't being "malicious" with her thread. She was merely debating a stereotype.

ehuffnsd said:

Don't be a smartass. I already said I don't know. That's kind of why I asked the question.

meow85 said:

well see there is no answer

ehuffnsd said:

Just because nobody knows what the answer is doesn't mean there isn't one. We're still not even 100% sure where or how homosexuality originates. Doesn't mean there's not an answer to that, just that we don't know.
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meow85 said:

we've spent three pages establishing there is no clear answer.

does that make you happy. i had a math teacher that once said, don't ask why ask how. sometimes the answer to why is more complex than you can understand.

some things i didn't understand in 7th grade math became clear in Calculus. so clearly we're all stuck in 7th grade math and no one on this board is in gay calc. just accpet it's the way it is, and you are only going to get the same answer we give you here.

meow85 said:

we've spent three pages establishing there is no clear answer.

does that make you happy. i had a math teacher that once said, don't ask why ask how. sometimes the answer to why is more complex than you can understand.

some things i didn't understand in 7th grade math became clear in Calculus. so clearly we're all stuck in 7th grade math and no one on this board is in gay calc. just accpet it's the way it is, and you are only going to get the same answer we give you here.

ehuffnsd said:

Fine, then. How?

It is a fact that certain styles of music appeal to certain demographics more than others, and for each there is a complex set of social reasons for that. I asked why, and got a negative reaction. Would I get the same reaction, I wonder, if I'd asked why rural poor whites tend to favour country music?

This thread is so stupid. How about all black men like rap or all lesbians like the Indigo Girls. Please grow up. You like what you like.

no, i don't like showtunes

It's not just young gay men.
It's the older ones too.

Generalizations to follow:

The older ones are strange in that they blend the Britney/Madonna/Kylie nonsense with some very interesting music. They have this quazi-generationX-gone-Grup musical palette they tend to listen to--very eclectic and hip...sort of the stuff that ends up on an IPod nano commercial the next year.

I just find their giddiness and excitement over music so fucking cute. I miss the days that I used to get that excited over music. I can't recall any of the acts that I loved when I was in my early 20s making me excited now.


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Hey, it's the stuff that's playing in Claire's when I go buy my grape lip gloss and leggings. Sue me.

On the same subject, funny how boy bands in UK were sometimes targeted at girls and gay guys, whilst I didn't really ever see that happening with US boybands and how they market them? Popular british boy band Take that (early 90's) were deliberately camp to play up their gay image, but I did not see NKOTB or the backstreet boys doing that? Infact, NKOTB's image in the UK was alot more down to earth and "normal", then the squeaky clean image in the states, but thats something else....

Not saying USA is homophobic but maybe cant see the potential boy bands had.

Back to your question, its quite obvious why are correlation between a 12 year old girls tastes and a gay guy (as you said, we are generalizing here), and thats that some girls at that age just want to dance and have fun and basically, hear a happy pop tune and little else. Its uncomplicated and inoffensive.

Gay guys often dont like that alpha male postering/gangster image and just want to have a good time and dance. Similarities are maybe that some gay men also just like to dance to uncomplicated, uplifting, unthreatening, ott image and cheesy as hell pop music. Of course its not that cut and dry and as we said, its a huge stereotype.

So...

12 year old girl: Cheesy, fun, dance to it, unthreatening, happy
gay guy : Cheesy, unthreatening, uplifting, have a good time. Great, clean image

Of course what I said was very basic, but a few similarities are there.

Lammastide said:

I wonder how it would be if some George Clinton was playing in that mothafucka... I know they won't do that, lol.

Imago said:

But where does it come from, I wonder?

This is a very good question in fact.

I don't see how it's homophobic or ignorant.

I've been wondering that myself too.

Timmy84 said:

I've worked jobs where, had I the technical know-how, I'd have been tempted to highjack the corporately-programmed sound system with wildly different music than what's assigned, just to see what would happen.

rushing07 said:

Thank you.

meow85 said:

I agree with Lukasz. There's nothing ignorant about wanting to know this.
Even if the observation is inaccurate (which I don't think it is), it's
still a good question to explore.

VoicesCarry said:

Did I say I was talking about you? Check my numerous other responses about the qualifiers on my question. As far as I can tell, you're not part of the group I was asking about.

Yes I know stereotpyes suck. But they will always exist so live with it LOL.

Be insulted if you want, but you know Meow85 wasn't being "malicious" with her thread. She was merely debating a stereotype.

Imago said:

Either way I still think we'd be scratching our heads like "huh?" Even if we produce one explanation, you'll see a second and a third and a fourth, lol. It'll go on and on and on and on...

meow85 said:

someone very dear to me points out that in homosexuals, many of them spend their adolescence secretly in love. Most don't get a chance to explore their sexuality until several years after their straight counterparts have been in the game.
he calls this a second adolescence.

My theory, totally unfounded is based upon this notion. Sort of like Freud's psycho-sexual stages, but concerning "the ghey".

It think gay musical taste boils down to many factors, based upon discovering themselves (or expressing themselves) at a later stage in life.

Most of the gay men I know have a certain boyish charm to all of them. They're like children when it comes to music, the arts, or entertainment. Sure, their taste in music doesn't develop any later than a heterosexuals taste in music. But when their sexuality is hidden or repressed, I would imagine more energy is devoted to these pursuits which then carry on into their adult life.

Straight young men develop a certain lust for sports, which makes no fucking sense to me, that carries on into their adult life too. I think in some way sports reinforces a pack mentality where the strongest toughest alpha males are rewarded , championed, and supported. Gay men, by in large, don't have this pack mentality in that manner as they were never really part of the pack to begin with. They adapt by focusing on other recreational activities, largely feminine I would suspect cause it's not like a straight girl in high school is going to be offended if her charming, attractive, male friend wants to go shopping, to the movies, or to the Warholl exhibit---her straight boyfriend is busy at the the showers bragging spanking his quarterbacks butt telling him how well he played the last game, etc. etc.


Yeah... I'm in trouble for that generalization,


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meow85 said:

You too? Every time me and mom be Christmas shopping, I'd be hearing that bullshit they play. I'd be wanting to change it my damn self.