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PrintableMarrk said: EmbattledWarrior said: I don't think you do... cause you mentioned pro tools, and thats just an audio sequencer with no dubious connection to it like autotune... Albeit Jackon is partial to Logic Pro, but aint nuthin wrong with pro tools but do you really know what ur talking about? Since when? he hasn't recorded that often, Michael has a natural gift vocally. i'm sure what we are talking about hasn't been around long enough for him to be considered 'partial' to them. But really, I'm not that bothered. are you? I consider most studio wizadry and computer programmed assistance cheating, that's why Off The Wall, i consider his zenith. ... You have no idea what your talking about!, thats ok i'll let it sly I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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We gotta hear an acapella version, then we can finally see if it was real or from Pro-Tools, lol. | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: Marrk said: Since when? he hasn't recorded that often, Michael has a natural gift vocally. i'm sure what we are talking about hasn't been around long enough for him to be considered 'partial' to them. But really, I'm not that bothered. are you? I consider most studio wizadry and computer programmed assistance cheating, that's why Off The Wall, i consider his zenith. ... You have no idea what your talking about!, thats ok i'll let it sly i love geeks jizzing off about unimportant things. Do you do the AICN boards? you should!  |
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Timmy84 said: We gotta hear an acapella version, then we can finally see if it was real or from Pro-Tools, lol.
PROTOOLS IS JUST A DAMN SEQUENCER! google it chrissakes lol I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: Timmy84 said: We gotta hear an acapella version, then we can finally see if it was real or from Pro-Tools, lol.
PROTOOLS IS JUST A DAMN SEQUENCER! google it chrissakes lol Whoa, slow down, I just said I wanted to hear an acapella version.  | |
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Timmy84 said: EmbattledWarrior said: PROTOOLS IS JUST A DAMN SEQUENCER! google it chrissakes lol Whoa, slow down, I just said I wanted to hear an acapella version. You can hear an Acapella version, and have it still produced and mastered on protools, You could even still use autotune... And with the right engineer you'd never know I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: Timmy84 said: Whoa, slow down, I just said I wanted to hear an acapella version. You can hear an Acapella version, and have it still produced and mastered on protools, You could even still use autotune... And with the right engineer you'd never know You see? quite easy to get confused, a bit of drink a bit of  , easily done, Maybe you shouldn't jump on every little 'mistake' you read on the net.
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Marrk said: EmbattledWarrior said: You can hear an Acapella version, and have it still produced and mastered on protools, You could even still use autotune... And with the right engineer you'd never know You see? quite easy to get confused, a bit of drink a bit of , easily done, Maybe you shouldn't jump on every little 'mistake' you read on the net.
Nobody likes a big-headed-know-it-all you know! I never meant to be liked politically correct sure... you all and MJ could sod off and your the one who signed off on my comment, I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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FunkyBrotha said: i know, this song is fantastic. also on invincible the song dont walk away is truly underrated.
i hope he does another album.. just one more michael please! Also if you restructure invincible like .... this... Unbreakable Heartbreaker Invincible Break of Dawn Heaven can Wait You Rock my World Butterflies Fall Again Speechless Dont Walk Away Cry We've had Enough Whatever Happens Threatened You get an amazing disc! Please remove "heartbreaker" and "Invinicble" from the list, I just don't like both of these tracks, they bore me so much, "Invinicble" is not a great melody and "heartbreaker" is overproduced. The worst song on the album was " Privacy" hands down, I just don't know how mj accpeted the song and recorded it  , very weak melody and unnatural vocals.
other than that the album is good, especially "speechless" and "whatever happens", the initial tracklist of the album was alot more interesting ,songs like: 1-kick it 2-seeing voices 3-maybe we can do it 4-get around were on the cut,but the whole tracklist was changed later..... [Edited 12/17/08 14:16pm] MICHAEL JACKSON
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EmbattledWarrior said: Marrk said: You see? quite easy to get confused, a bit of drink a bit of , easily done, Maybe you shouldn't jump on every little 'mistake' you read on the net.
Nobody likes a big-headed-know-it-all you know! I never meant to be liked you all and MJ could sod off There it is.the bottom line. Not rocket science, looking at your screen-name. In the words of one of my favourite other artists, 'Letitgo'. |
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If anyone other than Michael had recorded this none of you would give it a second listen. It's a drone that goes nowhere musically or melodically. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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As stated above, it is a drone that just goes on and on. The lyrics get lost.
Personally, I'm tired of all of MJs songs "lately" (last decade or so) where he always sounds like he's crying or in pain singing. And "hiccuping" as someone else stated. |
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Se7en said: As stated above, it is a drone that just goes on and on. The lyrics get lost.
Personally, I'm tired of all of MJs songs "lately" (last decade or so) where he always sounds like he's crying or in pain singing. And "hiccuping" as someone else stated. Yeah he "hiccups" on almost every song now, lol. | |
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It's a nice song, but really nothing special. Michael's done much better. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Timmy84 said: Se7en said: As stated above, it is a drone that just goes on and on. The lyrics get lost.
Personally, I'm tired of all of MJs songs "lately" (last decade or so) where he always sounds like he's crying or in pain singing. And "hiccuping" as someone else stated. Yeah he "hiccups" on almost every song now, lol. There wasn't a lot of hee-hee's and hoo hoos and hiccups on Invincible though... didn't fans complain about that? 
Anyways, I love this track. This and Escape should have been on Invincible imo. www.maximum-jackson.com
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marnifrances said: Timmy84 said: Yeah he "hiccups" on almost every song now, lol. There wasn't a lot of hee-hee's and hoo hoos and hiccups on Invincible though... didn't fans complain about that?
Anyways, I love this track. This and Escape should have been on Invincible imo. Yeah some did. | |
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marnifrances said: Timmy84 said: Yeah he "hiccups" on almost every song now, lol. There wasn't a lot of hee-hee's and hoo hoos and hiccups on Invincible though... didn't fans complain about that?
Anyways, I love this track. This and Escape should have been on Invincible imo. I was quite shocked how recent "escape" was. Even though the production does or did then sound modern, its a retread of "speed demon". Good for an occasional blast though as I love "speed demon" aswell, and the middle 8 is quite gorgeous, but its still a ripoff. "We've had enough" is OK. Typical Jacko. As someone said, "Earth song" is mles better. | |
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I absolutely love this track!
The essence of Mike shines through on this song! | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: Timmy84 said: Whoa, slow down, I just said I wanted to hear an acapella version. You can hear an Acapella version, and have it still produced and mastered on protools, You could even still use autotune... And with the right engineer you'd never know Oh shit, look who's back "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Uhh waiter check please.  1 over Jordan...the greatest since | |
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bboy87 said: EmbattledWarrior said: You can hear an Acapella version, and have it still produced and mastered on protools, You could even still use autotune... And with the right engineer you'd never know Oh shit, look who's back yeah back, and more jaded then ever... Nice to see you guys still humpin MJ's magical heels I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: bboy87 said: Oh shit, look who's back yeah back, and more jaded then ever... Nice to see you guys still humpin MJ's magical heels MJ's got clear heels? Ew... | |
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thesexofit said: marnifrances said: There wasn't a lot of hee-hee's and hoo hoos and hiccups on Invincible though... didn't fans complain about that?
Anyways, I love this track. This and Escape should have been on Invincible imo. I was quite shocked how recent "escape" was. Even though the production does or did then sound modern, its a retread of "speed demon". Good for an occasional blast though as I love "speed demon" aswell, and the middle 8 is quite gorgeous, but its still a ripoff. "We've had enough" is OK. Typical Jacko. As someone said, "Earth song" is mles better. The song has a "Bad"-era sound to it, yes. | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: bboy87 said: Oh shit, look who's back yeah back, and more jaded then ever... Nice to see you guys still humpin Mel B's magical heels corrected it for you  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: EmbattledWarrior said: yeah back, and more jaded then ever... Nice to see you guys still humpin Mel B's magical heels corrected it for you  | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: His voice sounds heavily Autotuned...
i'll give it a pass, the only song worth something on the collection was Fall Again... if he worked on the chord a bit more, the song would be great this is utter shite Yup, and the vocal is just heavily processed overall. To the point where it's irritating to listen to.... hate this shit goin on with a vocalist as talented as MJ!!! The producer and/or engineer should show some restraint with that uneeded trash... it's as bad as autotuning Billy Joel singing the superbowl national anthem. _ Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress and...kiss, kiss... | |
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midnightmover said: If anyone other than Michael had recorded this none of you would give it a second listen. It's a drone that goes nowhere musically or melodically.
I agree, it's so dull and boring. What happened with his great pop melodies? | |
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For an mj melody this century, it's pretty catchy. It's better than any of the other work Rodney Jerkins did with him. | |
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nd33 said: EmbattledWarrior said: His voice sounds heavily Autotuned...
i'll give it a pass, the only song worth something on the collection was Fall Again... if he worked on the chord a bit more, the song would be great this is utter shite Yup, and the vocal is just heavily processed overall. To the point where it's irritating to listen to.... hate this shit goin on with a vocalist as talented as MJ!!! The producer and/or engineer should show some restraint with that uneeded trash... it's as bad as autotuning Billy Joel singing the superbowl national anthem. _ Nah don't get discouraged... I only use Autotune, when singers have an off day etc... a cold... Or sometimes if the melody is really pitchy because of some weird musical interval Don't think pitch correction is new tho Back in the day pre computers, producers use to ride the tape reels in order to fix pitches, so it aint nuthin new... I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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