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PrintableThriller made and ruined his career, more or less.
It's natural though.. if you had seen Michael during '69-'81 you knew something unusually big was going to happen. As for Michael being the greatest child singer ever; definitely. To me Stevie Wonder really started at around the age of 18-20, while Michael was already amazing at +/- 12. | |
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daPrettyman said: AlexdeParis said: Stevie Wonder is my favorite solo artist of all time, but Michael was a better child singer. In many ways, one could argue that little Mike was a better singer than adult Mike. Everything he sang just sounded so effortless, heartfelt, and soulful. He was a one-of-a-kind star.
That is a true statement. I just got to thinking. If this question was asked differently, we could get different kinds of answers. If the question had been MJ is/was the best child singer of the 70s, I would agree. If you go by decades, you could really come up with a great list. 50s - Frankie Lymon 60s - Stevie 70s - MJ 80s - ???? (Johnnie Gill, maybe) 90s - Shanice (maybe) 00s - ??? 90's - Tevin Campbell? 00's - Sammie????? | |
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i fought over this onee but i had too settle it like this.
you know you're the greatest when people always compare themselves to you. how many times have you heard younger artist being sold as the next young michael jackson? which in itself i think its a curse, but thats besides the point that alone proves my point....  | |
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shorttrini said: AlexdeParis said: Stevie Wonder is my favorite solo artist of all time, but Michael was a better child singer. In many ways, one could argue that little Mike was a better singer than adult Mike. Everything he sang just sounded so effortless, heartfelt, and soulful. He was a one-of-a-kind star.
And that's because, little MJ did not give a fuck about what people thought about him, not to mention the fact that he had not been "cursed", by "Thriller" yet. I wouldn't say he didn't care about what people thought. Did you not see the Jacksons movie? MJ cried after a lot of performances as a child because he felt he didn't do well. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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Cinnamon234 said: What about Stevie Wonder? He's also a child prodigy. Always been incredibly talented.
As for Michael, I don't think it was just the voice that made him great as a child. He was also a dynamic performer and always seemed much older than he was. The funny thing to me though is sometimes when I listen to old J5 records like "Maybe Tomorrow", "Aint No Sunshine" and others, it seemed like he had more soul at that age than he did as an adult solo artist. I sometimes think some of the lyrics in the songs he sang in the J5 were too mature for him, but he always sang with such conviction that it was actually believable. Like I still get goosebumps whenever I hear "Who's Lovin' You". That song is a rare case in which the cover is better than the original and in this case it was originally sang by The Miracles of course, but Mike just really did his thing on that song. He's always been so talented. Absolutely!  | |
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kdj997 said: bboy87 said: Nobody mentioned Marques Houston? What about Usher?
Your brain have to be damaged by crack-cocaine if you put them or Johnny Gill in the same league as young Michael jackson | |
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All those old YouTube J5 videos just take me back. I was SO IN LOVE with MJ back then (I was in about 4th grade when these came out). I used to just DIE when he came on TV. And the LIVE show I saw. . .I think I couldn't breathe for about a week! [Edited 12/17/08 21:12pm] | |
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Alot of the J5 motown material is, not surprisenly, sub-par. Name many great boyband records LOL. Even worse, Motown were still more about singles then actual albums so filler was rife. Still, young Michael could turn an average song into a good one, and thats a damn good ability to have. Tevin Campbell had it too. | |
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thesexofit said: Alot of the J5 motown material is, not surprisenly, sub-par. Name many great boyband records LOL. Even worse, Motown were still more about singles then actual albums so filler was rife. Still, young Michael could turn an average song into a good one, and thats a damn good ability to have. Tevin Campbell had it too.
How do you figure? Tevin was good, but compared to the way the way MJ did, there is no compairson. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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thesexofit said: Alot of the J5 motown material is, not surprisenly, sub-par. Name many great boyband records LOL. Even worse, Motown were still more about singles then actual albums so filler was rife. Still, young Michael could turn an average song into a good one, and thats a damn good ability to have. Tevin Campbell had it too.
You should see the timeline a fan made on the MJVault forum. It gives you a good image of how hard those kids worked  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: thesexofit said: Alot of the J5 motown material is, not surprisenly, sub-par. Name many great boyband records LOL. Even worse, Motown were still more about singles then actual albums so filler was rife. Still, young Michael could turn an average song into a good one, and thats a damn good ability to have. Tevin Campbell had it too.
You should see the timeline a fan made on the MJVault forum. It gives you a good image of how hard those kids worked Motown hardly gave them a break. No wonder you can say Michael never had a childhood!  | |
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: You should see the timeline a fan made on the MJVault forum. It gives you a good image of how hard those kids worked Motown hardly gave them a break. No wonder you can say Michael never had a childhood! Here's the timeline. Note that this doesn't even include every recording session and song recorded: (credit goes to "jaorecords" on the Michael Jackson Vault forum) 1969 MAY Recording Sessions: Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah, To Sir With Love 17 - Recording Session: Stand! 19 - Recording Session: Oh, I've Been Bless'd JUNE Recording Sessions: Born To Love You, Standing In The Shadows Of Love, Sunny Boy, JULY Recording Sessions: I Want You Back (I Know) I'm Losing You, My Cherie Amour, You Can't Hurry Love, 10 - Recording Session: Can You Remember 15 - Recording Session: Can You Remember 19 - Recording Session: Who's Lovin' You, You've Changed 20 - Recording Session: Who's Lovin' You 24 - Recording Session: Who's Lovin' You 29 - Recording Session: You've Changed 31 - You've Really Got A Hold On Me AUG Recording Sessions: Nobody, Chained, La La Means I Love You 2 - You've Really Got A Hold On Me 11 - The J5 meet the media at an event promoted by Diana Ross at Daisy's Disco in Beverly Hills. SEP Recording Sessions: Twenty-Five Miles OCT 7 - I Want You Back/Who's Lovin' You Released 18 - The J5 peform "I Want You Back" & "Can You Remember" at the Hollywood Palace. NOV DEC Recording Sessions: ABC, I Was Made To Love Her 14 - J5 perform "I Want You Back", "Who's Lovin' You" & "Stand" on The Ed Sullivan Show. 18 - DIANA ROSS PRESENTS THE JACKSON 5 Released 1970 JAN Recording Sessions: I'll Bet You, I Hear A Symphony, 8 - Recording Session: You Ain't Giving Me What I Want (So I'm Gonna Take It All Back), We Can Have Fun 31 - The J5 perform "ABC" and "I Want You Back" on American Bandstand. FEB Recording Sessions: Honey Chile, Don't Let Your Baby Catch You, Don't Know Why I Love You, One More Chance, The Young Folks, Lavender Blue 11 - Recording Session: We Can Have Fun, True Love Can Be Beautiful 12 - Recording Session: A Fool For You 14 - Recording Session: Money Honey 24 - ABC/The Young Folks Released MAR Recording Sessions: (Come Round Here) I'm The Only One You Need, 2-4-6-8, Never Had A Dream Come True, The Love You Save, APR Recording Sessions: How Funky Is Your Chicken, Ask The Lonely MAY Recording Sessions: Going Back To Indiana, Oh How Happy, Everybody Is A Star 8 - ABC Released 13 - The Love You Save/I Found That Girl Released 19 - J5 perform first major concert in Los Angeles at the Forum. 24 - Recording Session: Darling Dear JUN Recording Sessions: I'll Be There, Never Can Say Goodbye, One Day I'll Marry You, Give Me Half A Chance, Can I See You In The Morning, Ready Or Not Here I Come, After The Storm JUL Recording Sessions: Christmas album sessions, Mama's Pearl, Reach In, The Love I Saw In You Was Just A Mirage, Reach Out I'll Be There, AUG Recording Sessions: Petals, Jamie, Just A Little Misunderstanding 7 - Recording Session: It's Your Thing 15 - J5 peform "I'll Be There" on Jim Nabors Show 28 - I'll Be There/One More Chance Released SEP Recording Sessions: The Wall 8 - THIRD ALBUM Released 26 - The J5 perform the national anthem at the opening game of the World Series in Cincinati, Ohio. OCT 9 - J5 begin first national tour playing in Boston. 15 - THE JACKSON 5 CHRISTMAS ALBUM Released NOV J5 concert in New York City's Madison Square Garden. 28 - J5 perform at War Memorial Auditorium in Rochester, New York 25 - Santa Claus Is Coming To Town/Christmas Won't Be The Same This Year Released DEC Recording Sessions: (We've Got) Blue Skies, 27 - J5 concert in Charlotte, North Carolina 28 - J5 Concert in Greensboro, North Carolina 29 - J5 Concert in Nashville, Tennessee 30 - J5 Concert in Jacksonville, Florida 1971 JAN Recording Sessions: My Little Baby, It's Great To Be Here, I Ain't Gonna Eat Out My Heart Anymore 7 - Mama's Pearl/Darling Dear Released FEB Recording Sessions: Maybe Tomorrow, Just Because I Love You MAR 16 - Never Can Say Goodbye/She's Good Released 29 - J5 appear on The Stephanie Edwards Show and "listen" to their new single "Never Can Say Goodbye" APR 12 - MAYBE TOMORROW Released 18 - J5 appear on DIANA! special and perform 2 song medleys which are recorded live for soundtrack album. MAY 29 - J5 concert in Gary, Indiana - Recorded for live album release. JUN 22 - Maybe Tomorrow/I Will Find A Way Released JUL Recording Sessions: Got To Be There 23 - J5 perform at Lake Michigan Summer Festival AUG SEP J5 appear on The Flip Wilson Show Recording Sessions: Maria (You Were The Only One) 9 - J5 perform at Michigan State Fair 12 - J5 concert in Honolulu, Hawaii 29 - GOIN' BACK TO INDIANA Released OCT Recording Sessions: Sugar Daddy, I'm So Happy, Rockin' Robin, Children Of The Light, E-Ne-Me-Ne-Mi-Ni-Moe, Little Bitty Pretty One, I've Gotta Be Me, Penny Arcade 7 - Got To Be There/Maria (You Were The Only One) Released 12 - Recording Session: Love Call NOV Recording Sessions: I Wanna Be Where You Are, Ain't No Sunshine, Wings Of My Love, Girl Don't Take Your Love From Me, Coming Home, Lulu, You Can Cry On My Shoulder, You've Got A Friend 23 - Sugar Daddy/I'm So Happy Released DEC Recording Sessions: In Our Small Way, Love Is Here And Now You're Gone, Doctor My Eyes, I Can Only Give You Love, We've Got A Good Thing Going, What Goes Around Comes Around, That's What Love Is Made Of 20 - GREATEST HITS Released 1972 JAN Recording Sessions: Ben, Looking Through The Windows, Everybody's Somebody's Fool, Ain't Nothing Like The Real Thing, If I Have To Move A Mountain, My Girl, People Make The World Go Round, 1 - J5 perform at Nashville's Municipal Auditorium 6 - Recording Session: That's How Love Goes 18 - J5 headline the first annual Martin Luther King Birthday Commemoration Concert at the Metropolitan Auditorium in Atlanta 24 - GOT TO BE THERE Released FEB Recording Sessions: Shoo-Be-Doo-Be-Doo-Dah-Day, Love's Gone Bad (1972 version) 12 - J5 concert in Kiel Auditorium in St. Louis 17 - Rockin' Robin/Love Is Here And Now You're Gone Released MAR Recording Sessions: When I Come Of Age, Music And Me, With A Child's Heart, Love Song 1 - TV special HELLZAPOPPIN' airs APR Recording Sessions: Corner Of The Sky, Don't Want To See Tomorrow, To Know 4 - Little Bitty Pretty One/If I Have To Move A Mountain Released MAY Recording Sessions: I Like You The Way You Are (Don't Change Your Love On Me) 2 - I Wanna Be Where You Are/We've Got A Good Thing Going Released 23 - LOOKING THROUGH THE WINDOWS Released JUN 23 - Lookin' Through The Windows/Love Song Released JUL 12 - Ben/You Can Cry On My Shoulder Released 14 - JERMAINE Released, That's How Love Goes/I Lost My Love In The Big City Released AUG Recording Sessions: Love's Gone Bad (1979 & 1986 versions), Skywriter, Can't Get Ready For Losing You, I'm Glad It Rained, You Made Me What I Am, Happy, Love Scenes, Let's Have A Party, Lonely Teardrops 4 - BEN Released 26 - J5 Concert in Los Angeles - "I Want You Back/ABC" recorded live and released on the 1992 album THE JACKSONS: AN AMERICAN DREAM Soundtrack SEP MJ appears on THE DATING SHOW MJ makes first solo performance on American Bandstand peforming "Ben" OCT J5 appear on several shows including The Sonny And Cher Comedy Hour and a special called One More Time where they sing with the Mills Brothers & Pat Boone. 2 - Corner Of The Sky/To Know Released NOV Recording Sessions: Ooh, I'd Love To Be With You, Love Is The Thing You Need, Touch, World Of Sunshine, Doggin' Around, Little Christmas Tree, Too Young, Teenage Symphony 5 - J5 play a Royal Command Performance for the Queen. 9 - J5 appear on TOP OF THE POPS in Britian and perform "Lookin' Through The Windows" 10 - J5 concert in Belle Vue, Manchester, England 11 - J5 concert in Empire, Liverpool, England 12 - J5 concert at Empire Pool, Wembley 15 - Daddy's Home/Take Me In Your Arms (Rock Me A Little While) Released 18 - J5 perform at NAACP fund-raising dinner in Hollywood 22 - Mixing Session: Love's Gone Bad (1972 Mix) DEC Recording Sessions: The Boogie Man, Uppermost, You're Good For Me, Who's Lookin' For A Lover, All The Things You Are, Euphoria, Morning Glow, Up Again, Would Ya Would Ya, 23 - MJ appears at the Watts Christmas Parade in Los Angeles 1973 JAN Recording Sessions: Hallelujah Day, I Can't Quit Your Love 15 - Recording Session: Melodie FEB 26 - Hallelujah Day/You Made Me What I Am Released MAR MJ appears at the Oscars and performs the nominated song "Ben" Recording Sessions: Johnny Raven 29 - SKYWRITER Released APR Recording Sessions: Dancing Machine 11 - Recording Session: To Make My Father Proud, If'n I Was God 12 - With A Child's Heart/Morning Glow Released 13 - MUSIC AND ME Released 30 - J5 concert in Japan recorded live and released as J5 LIVE IN JAPAN album MAY Recording Sessions: Get It Together, Don't Say Goodbye Again, Hum Along And Dance, Reflections, Pride And Joy COME IN TO MY LIFE released 5 - J5 concert in Portland, Oregon 6 - J5 concert in Seattle Washington 18 - J5 concert in Philadelphia 19 - J5 concert in Dayton, Ohio 20 - J5 concert in Columbus, Ohio 26 - Mixing Session: If'n I Was God, To Make My Father Proud JUN Recording Sessions: It's Too Late To Change The Time, Mama I Gotta Brand New Thing (Don't Say No) 6 - Recording Session: Here I Am (Come And Take Me) 13 - Recording Session: You've Really Got A Hold On Me 14 - Recording Session: Touch The One You Love JUL Recording Sessions: You Need Love Like I Do (Don't You), Make Tonight All Mine 20 - J5 concert in Pittsburgh 21 - J5 concert in Poconos, Pennsylvania 22 - J5 concert in New York City 24 - J5 concert in Chicago 25 - J5 concert in Chicago 27 - J5 concert in Cleveland, Ohio 28 - J5 concert in Detroit 29 - J5 concert in Indianapolis AUG 3 - Get It Together/Touch Released, J5 concert in Richmond, Virginia 4 - J5 concert in Hampton, Virginia 5 - J5 concert in Baltimore 7 - J5 concert in Greensboro, North Carolina 8 - J5 concert in Nashville, Tennessee 10 - J5 concert in Columbia, South Carolina 11 - J5 concert in Atlanda, Georgia 12 - J5 concert in Miami 17 - J5 concert in Memphis 18 - J5 concert in St. Louis 21 - J5 concert in New Orleans 22 - J5 concert in Dallas, Texas 24 - J5 concert in San Francisco 25 - J5 concert in Los Angeles 26 - J5 concert in Las Vegas 31 - Recording Session: Don't Let It Get You Down, Girl You're So Together, Farwell My Summer Love SEP 2 - J5 concert in Honolulu, Hawaii 4 - Recording Session: Call On Me 11 - You're In Good Hands/Does Your Mama Know About Me Released 12 - GET IT TOGETHER Released OCT 4 - Mixing Session: Call On Me 26 - JACKIE JACKSON Released NOV 1 - Mixing Session: Make Tonight All Mine, Melodie, Don't Let It Get You Down DEC Recording Sessions: I'll Come Home To You, What You Don't Know 8 - Recording Sessions: Window Shopping 1974 JAN 29 - J5 leave for tour of Africa FEB Recording Sessions: 19 - Dancing Machine/It's Too Late To Change The Time Released 22 - J5 concert in Houston MAR Recording Sessions: We're Here To Entertain You, Joyful Jukebox Music, Whatever You Got I Want, If I Don't Love You This Way 2 - J5 present an award to Glady's Knight and the Pips at the Grammy Awards APR Recording Sessions: It All Begins And Ends With Love 9 - J5 begin 2 week stint at the MGM Grand In Las Vegas for a show featuring the whole family MAY Recording Sessions: The Eternal Light, The Mirrors Of My Mind, JUN Recording Sessions: You' Haven't Done Nothin' (with Stevie Wonder), Buttercup, No News Is Good News, You're Supposed To Keep Your Love From Me (original version), I Am Love, JUL Recording Sessions: The Life Of The Party, She's A Rhythm Child 19 - J5 concert in Pittsburgh 21 - J5 concert in Richmond, Virginia 26 - J5 concert in Buffalo, New York 27 - J5 concert in Madison Square Garden, New York AUG 6 - J5 concert in Huntsville, Alabama 7 - J5 concert in New Orleans 10 - J5 concert in St. Louis 11 - J5 concert in Kansas City 16 - J5 concert in St. Paul, Minnesota 17 - J5 concert in Spokane, Washington 21 - J5 return to the MGM for another series of shows until September 3rd. SEP 4 - J5 tour South America with concerts in Panama, Venezuela & Brazil - Return to the US on October 1st. 5 - DANCING MACHINE Released OCT Recording Sessions: Just A Little Bit Of You, Take Me Back, We've Got Forever, (You Were Made) Especially For Me, Honey Love, Moving Violation, Breezy, Call Of The Wild, Honey Love, Time Explosion 1 - Whatever You Got, I Want/I Can't Quit Your Love Released 4 - J5 concerts in Sahara Tahoe in Nevada until the 6th 7 - J5 tour the Far East with concerts in Japan, Hong Kong, Australia & The Phillippines. Return to the US on November 1st. NOV Recording Sessions: Cinderella Stay Awhile, Dapper Dan, You Are There, Through Thick And Thin 20 - J5 return to the MGM Grand in Las Vegas for another round of shows until December 3rd. DEC Recording Sessions: You're My Best Friend My Love, One Day In Your Life, Dear Michael, We're Almost There 23 - I Am Love Pt. 1/I Am Love Pt. 2 Released 1975 JAN 16 - FOREVER, MICHAEL Released FEB Recording Sessions: All I Do Is Think Of You, Body Language, We're Gonna Change Our Style 6 - We're Almost There/Take Me Back Released 7 - J5 concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York MAR Recording Sessions: Forever Came Today APR 29 - Just A Little Bit Of You/Dear Michael Released MAY 15 - MOVING VIOLATION Released 28 - J5 sign a new contract with CBS records JUN 10 - Forever Came Today/All I Do Is Think Of You Released 30 - Joe Jackson calls a press conference at the Rainbow Grill in Manhattan to announce the J5 will not re-sign with Motown JUL J5 peform "Forever Came Today" and "Body Language" without Jermaine on the Carol Burnett Show. "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Yeah like I said "no break". | |
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Little Michael Jackson had a voice that would give you chills, to even listen to it now.
Stevie is a great chill tingling singer now but he didn't compare to little MJ. Proves 1 thing. MJ really is the King of Pop. | |
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Noone can touch little Mike!! | |
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I'm outta here for awhile.
I love MJ, but this saturation of threads in the Non Prince section is too annoying Peace "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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marnifrances said: bboy87 said: Nobody mentioned Marques Houston? What about Usher?
Has nobody told you to lay off that crack pipe? 
Joking
Anyway, Michael had amazing soul for a child. I love Stevie too, but I think Michael was the better child singer. I couldn´t agree more! | |
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LightOfArt said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I agree with your statement but only as a child. He lost a lot of soul when he grew up.
definetely not.He gave some of his most soulful performances as an adult. He just stopped singing motown soul [Edited 12/16/08 14:17pm] 100% right! | |
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