independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Music: Non-Prince > Quincy Jones is sad to see what's happened to Michael
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 12/18/08 9:09am

motownlover

Quincy Jones is sad to see what's happened to Michael

December 16, 2008 - 5:27 PM
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Quincy Jones is sad to see what's happened to Michael Jackson's career. Jackson hasn't released a CD of new music in seven years. Jones produced "Thriller." He saw what Jackson could do. Now, he hopes that Jackson will make a comeback after he comes "to grips with a lot of things in himself." Jones also reveals that he's spoken with Jackson about what he's done to his face. He says Jackson "used to apologize" to him about it all the time. But Jones says he didn't feel he could pressure Jackson because "that's a very personal decision." Jones is out with an autobiographical book called "The Complete Quincy Jones."

http://www.cbs12.com/news...uincy.html
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 12/18/08 9:24am

JackieBlue

avatar

It's sad for a lot of us.
Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 12/18/08 10:41am

FunkyBrotha

another day another quincy jones mj misquote!

quincy loves mj end of
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 12/18/08 10:47am

lastdecember

avatar

I will never under any circumstance believe anything that any Jackson fmaily member says,does,promises etc...there is no reason to, they have straight up lied on numerous occasions, and the REAL people i feel sorry for are the die-hard fans that just get jerked around with these rumours about albums,tours,etc, those people i feel sorry for.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 12/18/08 11:04am

TotalAlisa

avatar

quincy jones is wrong for speaking about michael like that.

and I don't even like quincy at all.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 12/18/08 11:10am

SCNDLS

avatar

TotalAlisa said:

quincy jones is wrong for speaking about michael like that.

and I don't even like quincy at all.

Quincy is a big ol' hypocrite.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 12/18/08 11:12am

asg

avatar

Dont worry MJ is goin to tour soon
[Edited 12/18/08 11:18am]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 12/18/08 11:22am

popgodazipa

avatar

TotalAlisa said:

quincy jones is wrong for speaking about michael like that.

and I don't even like quincy at all.


What's so wrong about it? Nothing harmful in the statement I read.
1 over Jordan...the greatest since
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 12/18/08 11:25am

PricelessHo

avatar

SCNDLS said:

TotalAlisa said:

quincy jones is wrong for speaking about michael like that.

and I don't even like quincy at all.

Quincy is a big ol' hypocrite.


+ the book plug confused
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 12/18/08 11:30am

PFunkjazz

avatar

You needto get the right context. It seems Q's out promoting his book/cd and the question came up during the interview, but in any case it's called Music BUSINESS.
test
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 12/18/08 11:39am

TotalAlisa

avatar

popgodazipa said:

TotalAlisa said:

quincy jones is wrong for speaking about michael like that.

and I don't even like quincy at all.


What's so wrong about it? Nothing harmful in the statement I read.

that was a personal conversation that he should NOT be discussing with the world. That is why michael really doesn't trust anyone because of this crap. People always talk about him.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 12/18/08 12:09pm

whatsgoingon

avatar

I can understand Q speaking out, he must have watched in horror how the guy he first worked with on the Wiz went from attractive black guy to this distorted looking person he is today.

Teddy Riley said something similar during the Dangerous era: he said Michael regretted "messing" up his face. The fact is anyone who remembers Michael from the J5 days know by the time the Bad era came around Michael had gone too far with the surgery. By Bad he didn't even look like Michael Jackson anymore.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 12/18/08 12:27pm

TotalAlisa

avatar

whatsgoingon said:

I can understand Q speaking out, he must have watched in horror how the guy he first worked with on the Wiz went from attractive black guy to this distorted looking person he is today.

Teddy Riley said something similar during the Dangerous era: he said Michael regretted "messing" up his face. The fact is anyone who remembers Michael from the J5 days know by the time the Bad era came around Michael had gone too far with the surgery. By Bad he didn't even look like Michael Jackson anymore.

that is NOT quincy's place to speak out. That is michaels business
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 12/18/08 12:43pm

Marrk

avatar

It's a pity Q couldn't give Michael a few 'home truths' back in the day, but i suppose Q made a shitload of money off Mike back in the day on that gravy train. more than he made in his whole career i'd bet.

So he kept his mouth shut, kept the gravy in there. 'Til now. Wonder why. confused
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 12/18/08 12:51pm

Cinnie

TotalAlisa said:

whatsgoingon said:

I can understand Q speaking out, he must have watched in horror how the guy he first worked with on the Wiz went from attractive black guy to this distorted looking person he is today.

Teddy Riley said something similar during the Dangerous era: he said Michael regretted "messing" up his face. The fact is anyone who remembers Michael from the J5 days know by the time the Bad era came around Michael had gone too far with the surgery. By Bad he didn't even look like Michael Jackson anymore.

that is NOT quincy's place to speak out. That is michaels business


I agree, TotalAlisa.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 12/18/08 12:58pm

Cinnie

TotalAlisa said:

popgodazipa said:



What's so wrong about it? Nothing harmful in the statement I read.

that was a personal conversation that he should NOT be discussing with the world. That is why michael really doesn't trust anyone because of this crap. People always talk about him.


In perspective, I would be quite offended if someone had written a book and said something like that about a family member of mine.
I don't know why people think they have the right to disclose and publish such personal history of OTHERS.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 12/18/08 12:58pm

bboy87

avatar

lastdecember said:

I will never under any circumstance believe anything that any Jackson fmaily member says,does,promises etc...there is no reason to, they have straight up lied on numerous occasions, and the REAL people i feel sorry for are the die-hard fans that just get jerked around with these rumours about albums,tours,etc, those people i feel sorry for.

But what does that have to do with Quincy?
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 12/18/08 1:01pm

Cinnie

bboy87 said:

lastdecember said:

I will never under any circumstance believe anything that any Jackson fmaily member says,does,promises etc...there is no reason to, they have straight up lied on numerous occasions, and the REAL people i feel sorry for are the die-hard fans that just get jerked around with these rumours about albums,tours,etc, those people i feel sorry for.

But what does that have to do with Quincy?


Yeah, shouldn't that be a brand new, separate MJ thread?
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 12/18/08 1:01pm

bboy87

avatar

Well, it looks like Quincy may have not said it, but a Blogger instead confused

There is an article on the CNN website, which has COMPLETE quotes which are presented in COMPLETE sentences and not just "portions" of a sentence.

This is what Qunicy has to say in the CNN article:

"On Michael Jackson: The hardest worker I've ever seen. I see him every now and then. He sent me a couple of Halloween presents. I have to thank him for."
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 12/18/08 1:04pm

Marrk

avatar

Cinnie said:

TotalAlisa said:


that is NOT quincy's place to speak out. That is michaels business


I agree, TotalAlisa.


I do too.

I honestly wonder how most black folks would feel if Michael officially said it was a mistake (all this horrible surgery). in his heart, can't see how he can possibly like what he sees these days.

To me he was a beautiful man anyway, but surgery-wise, he should have stopped at how he looked at MOTOWN25/Billie Jean/Beat It. cute and still recognisable as MJ.

Even when i listen to his stuff that was recorded after then, that's how i see him, it's weird.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 12/18/08 1:05pm

Cinnie

bboy87 said:

Well, it looks like Quincy may have not said it, but a Blogger instead confused

There is an article on the CNN website, which has COMPLETE quotes which are presented in COMPLETE sentences and not just "portions" of a sentence.

This is what Qunicy has to say in the CNN article:

"On Michael Jackson: The hardest worker I've ever seen. I see him every now and then. He sent me a couple of Halloween presents. I have to thank him for."


Let's hope so. Those quotes were not a good look.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 12/18/08 1:11pm

bboy87

avatar

Cinnie said:

bboy87 said:

Well, it looks like Quincy may have not said it, but a Blogger instead confused

There is an article on the CNN website, which has COMPLETE quotes which are presented in COMPLETE sentences and not just "portions" of a sentence.

This is what Qunicy has to say in the CNN article:

"On Michael Jackson: The hardest worker I've ever seen. I see him every now and then. He sent me a couple of Halloween presents. I have to thank him for."


Let's hope so. Those quotes were not a good look.

You know what is a good look?

Quincy's daugthers Rashida and Kidada lol

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 12/18/08 1:22pm

whatsgoingon

avatar

TotalAlisa said:

whatsgoingon said:

I can understand Q speaking out, he must have watched in horror how the guy he first worked with on the Wiz went from attractive black guy to this distorted looking person he is today.

Teddy Riley said something similar during the Dangerous era: he said Michael regretted "messing" up his face. The fact is anyone who remembers Michael from the J5 days know by the time the Bad era came around Michael had gone too far with the surgery. By Bad he didn't even look like Michael Jackson anymore.

that is NOT quincy's place to speak out. That is michaels business


Whether it is Michael's business or not, his face is out there for all of us to see. He is in an industry where image is everything, he more than most should have know that. He has been in the industry longer than most, that's why myself and others could never understand why he has messed up so badly, not only his face but everything else in his life.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 12/18/08 1:26pm

Marrk

avatar

whatsgoingon said:

TotalAlisa said:


that is NOT quincy's place to speak out. That is michaels business


Whether it is Michael's business or not, his face is out there for all of us to see. He is in an industry where image is everything, he more than most should have know that. He has been in the industry longer than most, that's why myself and others could never understand why he has messed up so badly, not only his face but everything else in his life.


'sright! to be that far, over and above everyone else (post-Thriller/Victory tour), and mess it up, just staggers me to the core. disbelief
[Edited 12/18/08 13:29pm]
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 12/18/08 1:42pm

angel345

Though he changed his look, and personally I wished that he hadn't, the deed is done and we have to respect and accept it. Can you undo the things in your life that you've regret doing? Despite it all, his music and personality is mesmerizing.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #25 posted 12/18/08 5:01pm

popgodazipa

avatar

Cinnie said:

TotalAlisa said:


that was a personal conversation that he should NOT be discussing with the world. That is why michael really doesn't trust anyone because of this crap. People always talk about him.


In perspective, I would be quite offended if someone had written a book and said something like that about a family member of mine.
I don't know why people think they have the right to disclose and publish such personal history of OTHERS.

You know I just don't think Q went overboard by stating the obvious. MJ went to far and if you want to be upset with someone try his plastic surgeon, who kept taking his money knowing good and damn well that MJ was out of control.
1 over Jordan...the greatest since
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #26 posted 12/18/08 6:15pm

uPtoWnNY

Marrk said:

I honestly wonder how most black folks would feel if Michael officially said it was a mistake (all this horrible surgery). in his heart, can't see how he can possibly like what he sees these days.



I'd like Michael to explain why he hired a white sperm donor to father his "kids", and what's his problem with being black.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #27 posted 12/18/08 6:39pm

Mars23

Moderator

avatar

moderator

bboy87 said:

Cinnie said:



Let's hope so. Those quotes were not a good look.

You know what is a good look?

Quincy's daugthers Rashida and Kidada lol




Rashida was the reason I got a boner watching "The Office".
Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #28 posted 12/18/08 6:49pm

Evvy

avatar

lastdecember said:

I will never under any circumstance believe anything that any Jackson fmaily member says,does,promises etc...there is no reason to, they have straight up lied on numerous occasions, and the REAL people i feel sorry for are the die-hard fans that just get jerked around with these rumours about albums,tours,etc, those people i feel sorry for.


these celebrities are just tryin to live their lives in private- they've had to resort to telling lies to do this and it works for them- oh well.....
LOVE HARD.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #29 posted 12/18/08 7:56pm

phunkdaddy

avatar

TotalAlisa said:

popgodazipa said:



What's so wrong about it? Nothing harmful in the statement I read.

that was a personal conversation that he should NOT be discussing with the world. That is why michael really doesn't trust anyone because of this crap. People always talk about him.


None of which are ever brought on by michael himself huh?
Seclusion from his own family, hanging a baby out of the window, putting holloween masks on his kids, etc. neutral
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Music: Non-Prince > Quincy Jones is sad to see what's happened to Michael