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"Before the Music Dies" a documentary film Narrated by Forest Whitaker

Help ...Any Orgers seen this film, its on DVD should i get it?

the trailer looks really good eek

http://www.noiseaddicts.c...-whitaker/

The Future of Music Hangs In the Balance.


"Before the Music Dies" is a documentary Narrated by Forest Whitaker that lays out a comprehensive and cautionary story about the deteriorating state of the music business.

The film contains interviews with music heavyweights such as Erykah Badu, Eric Clapton, Dave Matthews, and Branford Marsalis. The web site has tons of information including videos, trailers, screening information and ways you can get involved.

Of course a film such as this is expected to have a great soundtrack , and it doesn’t fail to deliver. It contains a ton of great music including tracks that have been previously unreleased.

This movie is a MUST SEE for anyone who is a musician and anyone who cares about the decline of the quality of music. Buy the DVD NOW.

“the most important film a music fan will ever see” (XM Radio)

“a balanced overview of the state of the rock scene of America” (The Wall Street Journal)

“passion to the eternal debate about the industry” (The New York Times)

“A great film… completely mind-blowing” (PureMusic.com)
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James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
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Reply #1 posted 12/13/08 12:13pm

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Interesting! nod
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Reply #2 posted 12/13/08 12:19pm

Timmy84

Looks VERY interesting. I KNOW lastdecember is gonna get it. lol

I LOVED what Erykah said at the end. We can say the same about 2007 and 2008 too. lol
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Reply #3 posted 12/13/08 12:39pm

Harlepolis

Check this out...



Wow lol
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Reply #4 posted 12/13/08 2:09pm

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It aired on IFC months ago, VERY good watch exclaim
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Reply #5 posted 12/13/08 5:32pm

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Harlepolis said:

Check this out...



Wow lol


I really sick and tired of that f***ing Autotunes software. THAT is the studio trickery responsible for the success of Ashlee Simpson, T-Pain, and anyone else that can't sing OR rap worth a damn
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Reply #6 posted 12/13/08 11:40pm

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I have a feeling this is not a good Kanye stocking stuffer.
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Reply #7 posted 12/14/08 12:15am

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I posted the whole documentary on the org awhile ago



but ya'll ignored it mad
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #8 posted 12/14/08 12:17am

Harlepolis

bboy87 said:

I posted the whole documentary on the org awhile ago



but ya'll ignored it mad


DAMN!

And you didn't orgnote me? omfg

I would LOVE to put my hands on you right now mad
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Reply #9 posted 12/14/08 12:34am

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I discovered the miracle of Doyle Bramhall II from this lil movie.

thumbs up!
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Reply #10 posted 12/14/08 2:06am

Timmy84

Harlepolis said:

bboy87 said:

I posted the whole documentary on the org awhile ago



but ya'll ignored it mad


DAMN!

And you didn't orgnote me? omfg

I would LOVE to put my hands on you right now mad


Me too. falloff

"You bastard!" LMAO!

You know you'll get more responses by ORGNOTES than posting it, dude! lol
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Reply #11 posted 12/14/08 2:07am

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Timmy84 said:

Harlepolis said:



DAMN!

And you didn't orgnote me? omfg

I would LOVE to put my hands on you right now mad


Me too. falloff

"You bastard!" LMAO!

You know you'll get more responses by ORGNOTES than posting it, dude! lol

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #12 posted 12/14/08 2:09am

Timmy84

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:



Me too. falloff

"You bastard!" LMAO!

You know you'll get more responses by ORGNOTES than posting it, dude! lol





evillol
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Reply #13 posted 12/14/08 2:15am

Timmy84

This dude posted it and I wasn't a member? hah!

What did you do? Destroy it? lol

Anyway, I doubt it's at any of the stores in my area. sad

Maybe my brother got a burned DVD. Fuck buying it if I can't find it, yes I said it, the internet's not taking my money, bitch! evillol
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Reply #14 posted 12/14/08 4:06am

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Timmy84 said:

Looks VERY interesting. I KNOW lastdecember is gonna get it. lol

I LOVED what Erykah said at the end. We can say the same about 2007 and 2008 too. lol


This film would have been better 10 years ago when this was the way of the world, and people were making money left and right. Now that the industry is losing money and everyone good and bad is getting dropped by their labels, now people are worried and making movies like this. Good concept but a decade too late.

I know people hated what acts like Milli Vanilli and CC music factory,or Black Box did, by putting forward a good looking singer(s) behind catchy songs that were easy hits, but thats all thats happening now, just alot more now. The clip clearly illustrates HOW easy it is, it also shows WHY almost no singer can perform live, with all those things in the studio to jack them up like pro tools and audiotone etc...

Im hoping (though i doubt) that this film addresses how DIGITAL is killing music more than the pretty face on a singer. The compression of what gets recorded in a studio and then compressed to digital for cd, then compressed to "files" etc...in this mix what is getting lost is what the recording sounds like. If you dont believe this then check into T Bone Burnett's new sound recording called CODE, he clearly shows the difference and what you lose in digital.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Harlepolis said:

Check this out...



Wow lol


i kinda like that mama's not home song boxed
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Reply #16 posted 12/14/08 4:55am

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PricelessHo said:

Harlepolis said:

Check this out...



Wow lol


i kinda like that mama's not home song boxed



Well be prepared because one of those "Hills" chicks is gonna have a record this year and im sure there will be plenty of "well crafted catchy" songs, and audio enhancement going on

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #17 posted 12/14/08 5:19am

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lastdecember said:

PricelessHo said:



i kinda like that mama's not home song boxed



Well be prepared because one of those "Hills" chicks is gonna have a record this year and im sure there will be plenty of "well crafted catchy" songs, and audio enhancement going on


oh hell to the naw i've heard some of the stuff that surfaced a while ago from Heidi. she's awful. unless she got hooked with some good producers this time.
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Reply #18 posted 12/14/08 10:59am

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Harlepolis said:

Check this out...



Wow lol

A compilation of...



...Badu Basics on the "Bidness"





...The Clear Channel Connection



Old news but, many are still...



...falling for it.



tA

peace Tribal Disorder

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Reply #19 posted 12/14/08 11:00am

Timmy84

theAudience said:

Harlepolis said:

Check this out...



Wow lol

A compilation of...



...Badu Basics on the "Bidness"





...The Clear Channel Connection



Old news but, many are still...



...falling for it.



tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431


...and bumping their heads in the process, lol.
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lazycrockett said:

I discovered the miracle of Doyle Bramhall II from this lil movie.

thumbs up!




Same here regarding Doyle. I'm a big fan now but I still haven't seen the full documentary! Didn't know it aired on IFC. Wonder if Nextflix or Amazon have it.
Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off
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Reply #21 posted 12/14/08 2:34pm

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lastdecember said:

Timmy84 said:

Looks VERY interesting. I KNOW lastdecember is gonna get it. lol

I LOVED what Erykah said at the end. We can say the same about 2007 and 2008 too. lol


This film would have been better 10 years ago when this was the way of the world, and people were making money left and right. Now that the industry is losing money and everyone good and bad is getting dropped by their labels, now people are worried and making movies like this. Good concept but a decade too late.

I know people hated what acts like Milli Vanilli and CC music factory,or Black Box did, by putting forward a good looking singer(s) behind catchy songs that were easy hits, but thats all thats happening now, just alot more now. The clip clearly illustrates HOW easy it is, it also shows WHY almost no singer can perform live, with all those things in the studio to jack them up like pro tools and audiotone etc...

Im hoping (though i doubt) that this film addresses how DIGITAL is killing music more than the pretty face on a singer. The compression of what gets recorded in a studio and then compressed to digital for cd, then compressed to "files" etc...in this mix what is getting lost is what the recording sounds like. If you dont believe this then check into T Bone Burnett's new sound recording called CODE, he clearly shows the difference and what you lose in digital.


TBF in retrospect, Rob & Fab, C+C, & Black Box had better music in the very early 1990's that I still listen to. And it better than most of the bullshine that's being promoting in the tail end of the 2000's.
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I watched this in school for one of my classes, the opening of the film is this.

PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever
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Live Your Life How U Wanna Live It
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TonyVanDam said:

lastdecember said:



This film would have been better 10 years ago when this was the way of the world, and people were making money left and right. Now that the industry is losing money and everyone good and bad is getting dropped by their labels, now people are worried and making movies like this. Good concept but a decade too late.

I know people hated what acts like Milli Vanilli and CC music factory,or Black Box did, by putting forward a good looking singer(s) behind catchy songs that were easy hits, but thats all thats happening now, just alot more now. The clip clearly illustrates HOW easy it is, it also shows WHY almost no singer can perform live, with all those things in the studio to jack them up like pro tools and audiotone etc...

Im hoping (though i doubt) that this film addresses how DIGITAL is killing music more than the pretty face on a singer. The compression of what gets recorded in a studio and then compressed to digital for cd, then compressed to "files" etc...in this mix what is getting lost is what the recording sounds like. If you dont believe this then check into T Bone Burnett's new sound recording called CODE, he clearly shows the difference and what you lose in digital.


TBF in retrospect, Rob & Fab, C+C, & Black Box had better music in the very early 1990's that I still listen to. And it better than most of the bullshine that's being promoting in the tail end of the 2000's.


True but theres alot of things that i cant forgive Clivilles and Cole for, they were behind ALOT of these things in the late 80's early 90's, they were also builders and destroyers of Fresstyle by trying to take it and merge in with hip hop.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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lastdecember said:

TonyVanDam said:



TBF in retrospect, Rob & Fab, C+C, & Black Box had better music in the very early 1990's that I still listen to. And it better than most of the bullshine that's being promoting in the tail end of the 2000's.


True but theres alot of things that i cant forgive Clivilles and Cole for, they were behind ALOT of these things in the late 80's early 90's, they were also builders and destroyers of Fresstyle by trying to take it and merge in with hip hop.


1. The way C+C took the vocals of Marsha Walsh for granted within one song for C+C Music Factory and most of one and only career album of Seduction is well documented. nod And yes, Marsha did sue and C+C had to settle the matter out of court.

2. As for the genre Latin Freestyle, it was already a shoot-off of electro (the original classic hip-hop sound) when it got the inspiration from Afrika Bambaataa & the Soulsonic Force's Planet Rock. The Planet Rock beats were the foundation of the New York freestyle sound.

The genre's very name came from Pretty Tony's side-project Freestyle, a group that were already the forerunners (along with Debbie Deb & Trinere) of the Miami freestyle sound.

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TonyVanDam said:

lastdecember said:



True but theres alot of things that i cant forgive Clivilles and Cole for, they were behind ALOT of these things in the late 80's early 90's, they were also builders and destroyers of Fresstyle by trying to take it and merge in with hip hop.


1. The way C+C took the vocals of Marsha Walsh for granted within one song for C+C Music Factory and most of one and only career album of Seduction is well documented. nod And yes, Marsha did sue and C+C had to settle the matter out of court.

2. As for the genre Latin Freestyle, it was already a shoot-off of electro (the original classic hip-hop sound) when it got the inspiration from Afrika Bambaataa & the Soulsonic Force's Planet Rock. The Planet Rock beats were the foundation of the New York freestyle sound.

The genre's very name came from Pretty Tony's side-project Freestyle, a group that were already the forerunners (along with Debbie Deb & Trinere) of the Miami freestyle sound.

[Edited 12/14/08 17:17pm]


But they were trying to take groups like Lisa Lisa and the Cover Girls and others and make them "hard", they incorporated "rap" into alot of what was going on in the genre, and for the most part they were two seperate worlds and really should have stayed seperate, this is why the "remix" of the early-mid 90's were the law of the land, the puffys and missys etc...or as i call it, the destruction of RB.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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It's cool watching Wendy & Lisa on stage with Eric Clapton.
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lastdecember said:

TonyVanDam said:



1. The way C+C took the vocals of Marsha Walsh for granted within one song for C+C Music Factory and most of one and only career album of Seduction is well documented. nod And yes, Marsha did sue and C+C had to settle the matter out of court.

2. As for the genre Latin Freestyle, it was already a shoot-off of electro (the original classic hip-hop sound) when it got the inspiration from Afrika Bambaataa & the Soulsonic Force's Planet Rock. The Planet Rock beats were the foundation of the New York freestyle sound.

The genre's very name came from Pretty Tony's side-project Freestyle, a group that were already the forerunners (along with Debbie Deb & Trinere) of the Miami freestyle sound.

[Edited 12/14/08 17:17pm]


But they were trying to take groups like Lisa Lisa and the Cover Girls and others and make them "hard", they incorporated "rap" into alot of what was going on in the genre, and for the most part they were two seperate worlds and really should have stayed seperate, this is why the "remix" of the early-mid 90's were the law of the land, the puffys and missys etc...or as i call it, the destruction of RB.


I didn't mind both genre being mix. As least hip-house & new jack swing came about within the process.

My bigger beef was when some urban producers & beatmakers alike started to slow down the tempo in an attempt to copy the winning formula of Dr.Dre/DJ Quik/Warren G and their genre G-Funk. And those very things that work so well for West Coast hip-hop was a death for latin freestyle, hip-house, new jack swing, and everything else that used to be faster than mid-tempo.
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TonyVanDam said:

lastdecember said:



But they were trying to take groups like Lisa Lisa and the Cover Girls and others and make them "hard", they incorporated "rap" into alot of what was going on in the genre, and for the most part they were two seperate worlds and really should have stayed seperate, this is why the "remix" of the early-mid 90's were the law of the land, the puffys and missys etc...or as i call it, the destruction of RB.


I didn't mind both genre being mix. As least hip-house & new jack swing came about within the process.

My bigger beef was when some urban producers & beatmakers alike started to slow down the tempo in an attempt to copy the winning formula of Dr.Dre/DJ Quik/Warren G and their genre G-Funk. And those very things that work so well for West Coast hip-hop was a death for latin freestyle, hip-house, new jack swing, and everything else that used to be faster than mid-tempo.
disbelief


Exactly. I didn't mind house music having a rapper in it because the drum machines still were hard and the music was still funky and danceable. The midtempo shit is what ruined music and don't forget the type of drum machines the shit hopppers used. Drum machines are fine if they sound good and pound hard but those shit hop drum machines sound weak and cheap sounding like $20 Casio keyboards from Walmart.
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Exactly. I didn't mind house music having a rapper in it because the drum machines still were hard and the music was still funky and danceable. The midtempo shit is what ruined music and don't forget the type of drum machines the shit hopppers used. Drum machines are fine if they sound good and pound hard but those shit hop drum machines sound weak and cheap sounding like $20 Casio keyboards from Walmart.


CORRECTION: More like the $5 keyboards from Dollar General! lol
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