kaptainkrunk said:

[Flame snipped - June7] Someone isn't white trash just because they're from the south and someone isn't white trash because their whole life is documented by the media! You know the paps live outside her house? Yes, LIVE. They rent out hotels and apartments nearby. You try being perfect 24/7 with people taking your picture all day.

[Flame snipped - June7]im from the south honey and she is trash she know u know thats y u jump 2 the defense [Flame snipped - June7]

Wow. I need ya'll to chill out. I just found that pic on the net. I loves Brit. She would probably laugh if she saw that.

musicjunky318 said:

DAMMMMMN!!! Why I gotta be allat?

Britney is pure trash and it's a sad state of affairs that her album is # 1.

I'm just happy I don't listen to shit music like this.

ScarletScandal said:

that is DISGUSTING. Its NOT even cool anymore to pick on britney spears

Empress said:

Ok, cya, bye, so long, don't let the door hit you on the way out!

TotalAlisa said:

Hey, I didn't make the picture. I just found it and thought it was funny.

Its okay but I much preferred Blackout.

purplesweat said:

i love you.

InsatiableCream said:

Moonbeam said:

Agreed. I love Blackout.

Good for Britney. A number one album and 2 top five singles plus good critical and fan reception all of this less than a year after she was carried out on a gurney. Not bad at all, she deserves this. Glad to see her back on her game. Even if I do prefer Blackout, Circus is a nice dance/pop album.

ScarletScandal said:

purplesweat said:

Britney is such a joke ...I wonder what her fans get from her music?
...I think its must be to do with the fact that the songs are easy to sing to no vocal talent needed...lyrics are easy ...not hard to learn...and have no meaning..pure POP like Coke...bland and fast... like McDonalds....the beats are as black, sexy and as cool as you can get without it being "black music" ..so safe to bring home..and play on the radio..her fame is brand manufactured and her talent is her image ...so she sings about herself...without..knowing she is doing it...

Just look at the product ...don't think about the source...

LondonStyle said:

Your OPINION is that she's a joke, her sales figures, records she's set and broken, the respect she has within the industry tells me a lot different from a "joke".

Her music is addictive, and her voice is unique & subtle. Most fans probably wouldn't consider me "dedicated" enough because I'm pretty picky with what songs of hers I like and I've never liked a full album of hers so far.

Once you can put away all the bias the media/public pressures onto you, you can learn to genuinely appreciate her songs for what they are - nothing stupendous, just good, solid pop with a unique delivery from both her AND her producers.



Your opinion once again. Britney may not write, but she knows how to express emotion. Have a listen to Unusual You, the standout track on her new album. I believe she has vocal talent, just not the type we're used to considering "talent". She can do a lot of subtle things with her voice that most singers today can't. Generally, you need to listen to slower songs for this, preferably not singles. I'd go so far as to say her single choices are what's ruined her chance at credibility amongst the public. The singles are usually always the worst or most generic songs on the album with the least vocal work.



Are you saying black music is meaningless and cheap? Like McDonalds? Way to generalize...



Yes, she is a product but one I believe she now fully participates in being. I think in the first few yrs of her career she was oblivious but now, cause of lack of control, she's had to agree to keep being the product because she has no other choice. So she plays it up to at least make it fun to be "Britney Spears".

Try these, see what you think.

Unusual You (2008) :



When I Found You (2001)



Touch of my Hand (2003)



Phonography (2008) :

This is so funny.... ... No one can make britney turn into a creditable artist she sells a manufactured product (herself), that does a job...like Coke...drink it ..like the taste...put the can in the bin...
their is No Real Opinion...do you like Coke or Pepsi...that's it...do you like britney or madonna...its a formula...a brand ...marketing..

No disrespect if you like britney you like her ...i like Coke..same thing..Coke hasn't got a talent it does a job...like britney..

purplesweat said:

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LondonStyle said:

Why? I'm trying to have a civilized conversation with you, answering the questions you asked and you respond with "this is funny"? That's disrespectful. I could care less which artists you choose to like, yet people love to make judgments on who I am as a person because of one controversial artist I choose to listen to.



Yes, that's all very deep and philosophical but it still doesn't make her a "joke". She has the music industry in the palm of her hand yet the general public still loves to doubt her.



Oh god, quit with the "deep" talk, you're getting a little too into this whole thing. And for the record, I cannot stand Madonna. She's had some good songs but for the most she bugs the hell outta me. Oh, and Pepsi is way better than Coke.



No disrespect? Don't do it then! You have no right to diminish my choice in music like this without a good reason. Your only "reasoning" is your opinion.



Did you even listen to the songs? I'm guessing not.

The album is sh!t

purplesweat said:

MajesticOne89 said:

I'll make an exception for Vanilla Coke

I like the album, think it might be her best yet, but some folks around here are starting to act like MJ fans


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I'll admit that Britney has a catalog of great songs, but it's hard for me to shower her with praise because the bulk of her musical catalog is written and produced by other people (same way I feel about many artists), which leaves just two jobs for her: singing the material handed to her, which should be easy for someone who is credited as a singer; and imagery...she's like a glorified Milli Vanilli (glorified because it's actually her voice on the songs). Britney's image seems to be just as important to her brand as her music, if not more soo at times. I wonder what people would have thought about her 'Womanizer' video if she had not lost the weight....pretty harshly I can imagine considering that I've seen and heard her fans commenting negatively about her appearance more than once over the past few years.

Honestly, if the song is good, I could really care less what the singer looks like, because a good song is a good song no matter who sings it. I'm sure she got to listen to beats that were made for her and decide which one she liked for this album, but where's the creativity and innovative growth in just listening instead of doing? . Personally, I would love to help create the entire song from first initial note to final completed track if I ever had the opportunity, because that's interesting to me. Most artists have taken to just going into the studio and laying down vocals and leaving the rest for the producers to really create, which isn't something that I can whole-heartedly praise the 'artist' for. Just my

Tuls101 said:

It's definitely a nice self-esteem booster for her; but, I can't say that I feel she deserves this. It's nice that she seems to be more stable nowadays, but she's not really in control of anything at the moment, she's just following the schedule that is made for her by all the handlers who surround her daily. She's even more controlled now than she's ever been in her 10 year career and that's really sad. Honestly, her being strapped to a gurney is the last reason I feel she deserves all these accolades. After everything is all said and done, the fact still remains that she allowed a man to drag her down to that point, which I will always consider to be a sign of how weak a person really is. Nobody should ever allow another human being (friend or family member, husband or wife, boyfriend or girlfriend) to get them to the point where they start destroying themselves, because if that's the case, than maybe it's not 100% that other person's fault.

Love is blind indeed; it's also deaf and dumb sometimes. I have friends who allow themselves to be mistreated and used and I don't feel sorry for them because they continue to allow it to happen. As the old expression goes, "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me." There are women who deal with way worse circumstances yet still manage to hold it together for the sake of their children and many of them don't have millions of dollars to fall back on. I just don't see her as being this strong women that many people claim her to be. There were lots of celebrities this year who faced even greater tragedies than Britney and they handled themselves pretty well. Michelle Williams suddenly and tragically lost Heath Ledger, the father of her child, and she's standing strong for the sake of her daughter. Jennifer Hudson just lost three of her family members tragically and is still trying to keep her head held high. That's real strength that deserves praise. If Britney was making the decisions on her own with this comeback and being an indendent and strong single mother, than I would be putting her in the with these two strong women, but unfortunately, her dad is calling the shots now. When she regains custody of her life, than my views on her will change. Just my

estelle81 said:

Do you have to say the same thing in every thread? Either you're happy for her or you're not, it's up to you.



What's that got to do with her? If the public can't look at a woman who has more weight on her, especially after two kids, then that's their fault. I'm not sitting there listening to her album going "this is only good music because she lost weight". Weird logic.



Exactly, so what are you worried about?




I don't know how many times I have to type that Jive WON'T LET HER have control, she tried and they thwarted it so now she's just buying the time until she leaves. Who knows what will happen then?




We actually don't know how much she does. Everyone LOVES to presume but the fact remains is that she gets glowering reviews from the producers she works with (which is why she continually works with them).



So you're obsessed with others getting recognition, too. You do know what royalties are right? Did you know that Ludacris had maybe a 30 second appearance in the song "Yeah!" for Usher and earned enough money from that to buy a house? It's not like these producers are living on bread and water. If they weren't happy with the level of recognition they were getting, they'd stop working with her. She put Danja on the map over Timbaland, she kickstarted Pharrell's mainstream career.




Dude, you don't HAVE to praise her if you don't want to!



What does this have to do with her album? See, now you're letting her personal life influence your opinion. None of us should even know about her fuck ups, but thanks to the media, we do.



Michelle and Heath weren't even together, Michelle was already living alone with Matilda. Facts, people, facts!

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estelle81 said:

How can I be happy for someone who has openly admitted to the world that they are sad? Wow, I'm getting yelled at for complimenting her catalog. I have no problem admitting that she has been a part of some very good pop songs and has done some great live performances. Even though I can't stand R. Kelly, he wrote and produced 'Fortunate', which is one of my all-time favorite ballads. I give credit where credit is due regardless of whether I like the artist or not.



I agree with you, which is why I found it soo weird when I saw a video of one of her fans (a guy) saying she needed to lose some weight when she was doing the M&M's shows. If it hadn't have been a paying fan who made the comment, I wouldn't have found it to be that big of a deal, but when it's her fans who are pointing out such superficial bullshit, than I get a little confused. Even if she didn't have any kids, she should be allowed to gain a little weight in her down time, just like everybody else.



She's been with them for a long time now. When is she going to be done with her contract?





"Yeah!" was a big song and it got played alot when it was out and since Luda usually writes his own lyrics, why shouldn't he get royalties, because that's kinda what royalties are? That alone should give any artist more initiative to try and write the majority of their songs because it's extra money in their pockets. Hell, Luda was on everyone's song at one point. I like him, so I never really minded, but now it's either Lil Wayne or T-Pain on everyone's song






I agree. Her personal life should have remained out of the public eye. The media is wrong for constantly pursuing her, but she should have made it a lot harder for them to take advantage of her. When she did that show with her ex, I questioned how much she truly valued her privacy. If a celebrity willingly puts there private life on display, then I can't just blame the media. I don't believe that they should be followed constantly, but I don't understand why they would be soo surprised and annoyed by it. All I know is that even she stated that she should have just went home to Louisiana during that turbulent time. It really didn't have to end up the way it did had she have gotten out of the hot zone; but, in the end, that was a decision that she passed on for whatever reasons she had at the time.




Fact: Regardless of whether they were together or not, they had a young child together and now she has to explain to her daughter why she'll never get to see her father again. How does one explain to a 2 year old that your dad is never going to be able to come and see you anymore. That's the point I was making with the original statement. Britney's situation may be sad because she feels controlled, but she doesn't have to do it on her own. Michelle got emancipated from her parents when she was 15, so she's had to stand on her own for quite some time now and has seemed to handle herself pretty well.

I wasn't yelling at you, I just found it weird how in every thread you're analyzing whether you should praise her or not.



Do you over analyze them all, too?



Most fans are completely psycho. I'm not even exaggerating, the fanbase is so horribly embarassing, it has to be seen to be believed. The majority are obsessed with her body and the message For The Record projected (Fame is hell! Help me!) went straight over most of their heads. Having said that, there are a bunch of us who don't worship the ground she walks on and have an appreciation for her music without going crazy over everything she releases (as I said before, there's no full album of hers I like, only a handful of tracks).



If memory serves me right, one more album.



Exactly, so I don't get why people whine about producers not getting recognition when they work with Britney. They probably love the free publicity and the big $$$ they get.



I agree about the reality show but we gotta remember who we're dealing with here She said she thought it would be a good way for people to see the real her, unfortunately the "real" her was a little too real for everyone and I do think she's in a very bad place in that show. Very lonely, desperate and confused about pretty much everything in her life.

I do think she gets addicted to her fame sometimes.

purplesweat said:

I'm not making a judgments on you as a person...i'm talking about POP music here, you like what you like, and the Coke and Pepsi (fizzy POP) thing was an example "reasoning" to show how you can compare two products (Britney and Madonna) that basically do the same thing but rely on heavy marketing hype as their is not much more to them.

Britney is about her looks not her voice...Her dancing is average...and the music and lyrics are done by a third party..even the styling is copied

She is not an artist - a skilled performer ; especially : artiste

What's Britney's skill?... What's her talent...?

She a product...(not getting to deep but do ya think she knows this and gets pissed of at mom and pop and record execs ?)

She does a job for her record company and makes alot people happy who buy her music thats great, but lets not get all carried away like she's a great artist shes not!

don't think I will buy it but i loooove if you seek amy and womanizer