phunkdaddy said: kaptainkrunk said: teena is good but she aint got shit on whitney in her worst crack days nor do she come close 2 aretha or chaka teena might be better than karen white though
I think this comment is a little overboard. Teena would wipe the crack whitney ass across the floor. Now whitney was great vocally in her prime. My problem with whitney was the boring ass pop adult contemporary shit she was doing. While she was doing that shit teena was singing and playing funk and doing some great r&b ballads. I hope i don't get chopped up for this but teena was making more pure r&b records than whitney was. Let's be honest. I mean teena has only had one crossover hit in her career and that was lover girl. Yes shadow boxing is a great song and i had never heard it before the org. I would put teena slightly behind chaka and aretha in their primes but i would give her the nod over whitney's dull 80's shit. YES Prince I will always miss and love U. | |
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Imago said: Lawd H'ammercy,I KNEW it was only a matter of time before somebody was going to post this...WHOO, what a loveable hot ass sticky MESS this was | |
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Ottensen said: Imago said: Lawd H'ammercy,I KNEW it was only a matter of time before somebody was going to post this...WHOO, what a loveable hot ass sticky MESS this was Wait till Calhounsq sees it | |
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isn't it amusing that when a white girl gains a lot of success, it's because she's white and palatable to the mainstream masses, but when she doesn't, it's also because she's a white girl? | |
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Rick looks like your Drunk Uncle Willie and he had nerve to be trying to unbutton his jacket and unleash those titties! Put them thangs away, Uncle Willie! And then, when he spanked himself...there are no words. "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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errant said: isn't it amusing that when a white girl gains a lot of success, it's because she's white and palatable to the mainstream masses, but when she doesn't, it's also because she's a white girl?
That is interesting. Cher, Madonna and Britney Spears are mega-stars, but Teena Marie wasn't/isn't. This is another case of Unsolved Mysteries, LOL. I don't know....I personally think Teena's case is due to her voice and music sounding "too Black," which I love, but the majority non-Black masses apparently didn't/don't. It's a shame. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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Timmy84 said: You gonna have people cussin' at you with these threads, lol.
She's better than Nippy, I'll give you that,,,,but she's not anywheeeeere near the other 2, no suh | |
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scriptgirl said: Rick looks like your Drunk Uncle Willie and he had nerve to be trying to unbutton his jacket and unleash those titties! Put them thangs away, Uncle Willie! And then, when he spanked himself...there are no words.
That's EXACTLY what it is!! It's the drunk uncle, and the cool auntie who needs to lay off the PIE at the 'family reunion' | |
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phunkdaddy said: kaptainkrunk said: teena is good but she aint got shit on whitney in her worst crack days nor do she come close 2 aretha or chaka teena might be better than karen white though
I think this comment is a little overboard. Teena would wipe the crack whitney ass across the floor. Now whitney was great vocally in her prime. My problem with whitney was the boring ass pop adult contemporary shit she was doing. While she was doing that shit teena was singing and playing funk and doing some great r&b ballads. I hope i don't get chopped up for this but teena was making more pure r&b records than whitney was. Let's be honest. I mean teena has only had one crossover hit in her career and that was lover girl. Yes shadow boxing is a great song and i had never heard it before the org. I would put teena slightly behind chaka and aretha in their primes but i would give her the nod over whitney's dull 80's shit. I agree, but I put Chaka miles ahead of Teena, hell, Chaka is miles ahead of most artists. [Edited 12/9/08 3:09am] | |
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BOTH TEENA MARIE AND STEPHANIE MILLS ARE UNDERRATED!!!!! AND THEY ARE BOTH TALENTED AS HELL!!!!! ADD EVELYN "CHAMPAGNE" KING TO THAT LIST AS WELL!!!
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prodigalfan said: benjaminira said: Although I like Chaka, Whitney, and Aretha, Teena OWNS her career. She writes, produces and playes various instruments. She IS the female Prince. She has loads more talent than Madonna too!
I always thought that too. Especially when she went to war with Motown to own her masters or something like that. Her case change the laws... I think it is called the Teena Marie law. Wikepedia: The Brockert Initiative, popularly known as "The Teena Marie Law," which set a precedent for artists seeking control of their careers by limiting the length of recording contracts. I forgot about this. Another reason why she is underrated. Maybe it's just as well that she hasn't become a huge megastar. I like her just the way she is and love that she's never tried to cross over or waterdown her sound. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: She even slays it when singing house music!
Oohh, thanks for posting this! Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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She has her moments, but, no, that Muppet lookin' warbler is not in the same league as either one. I do love Robbery though. Fun album. | |
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phunkdaddy said: kaptainkrunk said: teena is good but she aint got shit on whitney in her worst crack days nor do she come close 2 aretha or chaka teena might be better than karen white though
I think this comment is a little overboard. Teena would wipe the crack whitney ass across the floor. Now whitney was great vocally in her prime. My problem with whitney was the boring ass pop adult contemporary shit she was doing. While she was doing that shit teena was singing and playing funk and doing some great r&b ballads. I hope i don't get chopped up for this but teena was making more pure r&b records than whitney was. Let's be honest. I mean teena has only had one crossover hit in her career and that was lover girl. Yes shadow boxing is a great song and i had never heard it before the org. I would put teena slightly behind chaka and aretha in their primes but i would give her the nod over whitney's dull 80's shit. Amen! Amen! AMEN DAMMITT! Speak the truth because the truth shall set you free dammitt! It was like role reversal. God gave all Shitney's blackness to Teena and gave all Teena's whiteness to Shitney. When I hear Teena, I wanna throwdown. When I hear Shitney, I start looking for a glass of milk to dip her in. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: Amen! Amen! AMEN DAMMITT! Speak the truth because the truth shall set you free dammitt! It was like role reversal. God gave all Shitney's blackness to Teena and gave all Teena's whiteness to Shitney. When I hear Teena, I wanna throwdown. When I hear Shitney, I start looking for a glass of milk to dip her in. It's not right, but it's OK, I'm gonna make it anyway... 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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No, not at all.
Good doesn't equal great. While we're on the subject of funky white girls,I honestly think Nikka Costa could be better than her too. That's more of a comparison right? [Edited 12/9/08 13:44pm] | |
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errant said: isn't it amusing that when a white girl gains a lot of success, it's because she's white and palatable to the mainstream masses, but when she doesn't, it's also because she's a white girl? Long before Vanilla Ice or Eminem, which are shit hoppers and really shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath, there was Teena Marie. However, if you notice when it comes to Vanilla Ice or Eminem, two white artists that were supposedly "so black", they went after white mainstream audiences from the very beginning and got them. In their personal lives also, they dated mostly white women and were mostly white in every other sense of the word or than their music. When it came to Teena, which was years earlier and much more daring, she didn't give a damn if the white audience liked her or not. She went after the black audience and she loved mostly black men also. Teena was the real deal, she wasn't fake like the others just trying to make major money off of black folks' music. It just depends on how you measure success. Most of the white audience loves a white person making black music as long as that white artist remains one of them. Teena was a white woman but she was too black, not only musically, but personally also, for most white audiences. She flaunted it, made no apologies for it, and if they didn't like her for it, they could kiss her ass. She was definately a bad lady and a huge influence on myself. . . . [Edited 12/9/08 13:52pm] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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shorttrini said: scriptgirl said: I don't think Lady T gets enough props and in my opinion, she is up there with them.
I 100% agree with you. But, here lies the questions. Is it due to the color of her skin? We all know that she has the chops so, is the reason that she is not up there with the others that you have mentioned, because she is white and that there are still some out there that believe that only blacks people should sing "Soul Music"? I figured that I would start the people cussin' tonight, Timmy. I asked this question awhile back because I felt that based on the breadth of her work, she was largely unappreciated amongst the masses. The masses, being black folks as her music has always been unapologetically directed to blacks. I most certainly place her above Whitney, on par with Chaka and the Aretha question is absurd. | |
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thatruth said: I always thought of Teena Marie as a great musician/writer/producer but as a vocalist...average, much like Patrice Rushen.
Actually, I've always thought of her as being an outstanding vocalist with an average voice. She's always carried her work well from a vocal standpoint. Much like Prince, whom does not a great voice in the Luther, Sam, Otis tradition but rather is one of great vocalists of all time (IMO). | |
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prodigalfan said: Flowers2 said: this is my jam ..
Aww, see there you go girl! This is my jam too! I love Shadow boxing. That is the reason I had to go out and buy the whole CDs and not a greatest hits. Not every gem was a hit you know what I mean? I dont think this is her best song! Prince I will always miss and love U. | |
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Imago said: this shit awesome ) Prince I will always miss and love U. | |
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How can you be a great vocalist and not have a great voice? That makes no sense. "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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OzlemUcucu said: Imago said: [youtube:f0d83b3ce8][/youtube:f0d83b3ce8]
this shit awesome ) you shit awesome! My Legacy
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Marrk said: No, not at all.
Good doesn't equal great. While we're on the subject of funky white girls,I honestly think Nikka Costa could be better than her too. That's more of a comparison right? [Edited 12/9/08 13:44pm] Hmmm...I remember when Nikka first came out and I read a review of her album and they said that she sounds like she could be Teena Marie's angry little sister! I thought, "I can hear that!" If it breaks when it bends, U better not put it in! | |
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vainandy said: Long before Vanilla Ice or Eminem, which are shit hoppers and really shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath, there was Teena Marie. However, if you notice when it comes to Vanilla Ice or Eminem, two white artists that were supposedly "so black", they went after white mainstream audiences from the very beginning and got them. In their personal lives also, they dated mostly white women and were mostly white in every other sense of the word or than their music. When it came to Teena, which was years earlier and much more daring, she didn't give a damn if the white audience liked her or not. She went after the black audience and she loved mostly black men also. Teena was the real deal, she wasn't fake like the others just trying to make major money off of black folks' music. It just depends on how you measure success. Most of the white audience loves a white person making black music as long as that white artist remains one of them. Teena was a white woman but she was too black, not only musically, but personally also, for most white audiences. She flaunted it, made no apologies for it, and if they didn't like her for it, they could kiss her ass. She was definately a bad lady and a huge influence on myself. . .I knew from some of your posts that I liked U, but that solidified it. (and U look pretty damned cute too!) . [Edited 12/9/08 13:52pm] If it breaks when it bends, U better not put it in! | |
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JackieBlue said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: She even slays it when singing house music!
Oohh, thanks for posting this! thank you that someone recognized that song 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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NDRU said: OzlemUcucu said: this shit awesome ) you shit awesome! Yes, but i still think Square Biz is best. I still cant find extended version of Fire and Desire, cause that is what i am looking for. I should check my old tapes from the 80s Prince I will always miss and love U. | |
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OzlemUcucu said: prodigalfan said: Aww, see there you go girl! This is my jam too! I love Shadow boxing. That is the reason I had to go out and buy the whole CDs and not a greatest hits. Not every gem was a hit you know what I mean? I dont think this is her best song! Dang! Her best??? How can I choose? Portugese Love, Dear Lover, Fire in the Irons, Casanova Brown,Shangri La, The list goes on and on. I honestly don't know which one I think is the best. "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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Ottensen said: Imago said: Lawd H'ammercy,I KNEW it was only a matter of time before somebody was going to post this...WHOO, what a loveable hot ass sticky MESS this was why did Rick unbutton his shirt? To show everybody how soft and pudgy he got? Sorry, to speak ill of the dearly departed. "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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