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Printabledancerella said: Graycap23 said: .....and Roger was a LEGIT musician. that is true but he rarely sang without auto tune. just saying.... FYI. Roger did not use autotune. Roger used a device that mixed his voice with a synth patch, which is similiar 2 a vocoder. | |
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Graycap23 said: dancerella said: that is true but he rarely sang without auto tune. just saying.... FYI. Roger did not use autotune. Roger used a device that mixed his voice with a synth patch, which is similiar 2 a vocoder. He used the same device Steven Tyler used on "Sweet Emotion" and Peter Frampton used on "Do You Feel Like I Do?", right? We used to call it a voice box. As I recall, it had a tube that you had to sing into. | |
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RodeoSchro said: Graycap23 said: FYI. Roger did not use autotune. Roger used a device that mixed his voice with a synth patch, which is similiar 2 a vocoder. He used the same device Steven Tyler used on "Sweet Emotion" and Peter Frampton used on "Do You Feel Like I Do?", right? We used to call it a voice box. As I recall, it had a tube that you had to sing into. That is correct. Rocktron makes one. I just purchased 1 a few months ago but I have not had a chance 2 fire it up yet. | |
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Graycap23 said: RodeoSchro said: He used the same device Steven Tyler used on "Sweet Emotion" and Peter Frampton used on "Do You Feel Like I Do?", right? We used to call it a voice box. As I recall, it had a tube that you had to sing into. That is correct. Rocktron makes one. I just purchased 1 a few months ago but I have not had a chance 2 fire it up yet. Roger initially used the Electro-Harmonix   
..."Golden Throat" series voice boxes (along with a Yamaha DX100 synth) To avoid confusion among non-musicians who might read this, the "voice box" uses a tube and a "vocoder system" uses a microphone... 
...Moog (circa '79) As a point of interest, in 1962 country steel player Pete Drake used an early voice box on a tune called... ...Forever Country ain't always as lo-tech as some might think. 
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That video was wild tA! Thanks for posting that! | |
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theAudience said: As a point of interest, in 1962 country steel player Pete Drake used an early voice box on a tune called...
...Forever I  that song! | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: theAudience said: As a point of interest, in 1962 country steel player Pete Drake used an early voice box on a tune called...
...Forever I that song!That video made hair on the back of my neck stand up..... | |
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theAudience said: As a point of interest, in 1962 country steel player Pete Drake used an early voice box on a tune called...
...Forever THAT WAS THE ILLEST SHIT I HEARD IN A LONG TIME  | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: theAudience said: As a point of interest, in 1962 country steel player Pete Drake used an early voice box on a tune called...
...Forever I that song! | |
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theAudience said: Graycap23 said: That is correct. Rocktron makes one. I just purchased 1 a few months ago but I have not had a chance 2 fire it up yet. Roger initially used the Electro-Harmonix
..."Golden Throat" series voice boxes (along with a Yamaha DX100 synth) To avoid confusion among non-musicians who might read this, the "voice box" uses a tube and a "vocoder system" uses a microphone...
...Moog (circa '79) As a point of interest, in 1962 country steel player Pete Drake used an early voice box on a tune called... ...Forever Country ain't always as lo-tech as some might think.
tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 HA!!  Leave it to tA to break it down on the history tip. By the way, that piano player in "Forever" was JAMMIN'. | |
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Graycap23 said: dancerella said: that is true but he rarely sang without auto tune. just saying.... FYI. Roger did not use autotune. Roger used a device that mixed his voice with a synth patch, which is similiar 2 a vocoder. so at the end of the day your saying in general roger was more talented as he played many instruments which i'm sure is true but i still can't see why people diss kanye for using auto tune. well maybe when he feels more comfortable with his voice he'll go natural? | |
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dancerella said: Graycap23 said: FYI. Roger did not use autotune. Roger used a device that mixed his voice with a synth patch, which is similiar 2 a vocoder. so at the end of the day your saying in general roger was more talented as he played many instruments which i'm sure is true but i still can't see why people diss kanye for using auto tune. well maybe when he feels more comfortable with his voice he'll go natural? Please don't give him any ideas. 
But yeah Roger was a real talented musician, he was a multi-instrumentalist. [Edited 12/9/08 22:21pm] | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: theAudience said: As a point of interest, in 1962 country steel player Pete Drake used an early voice box on a tune called...
...Forever I that song!I followed the link in the youtube clip and read the following: Peter Frampton wasn't the first guitar player to put a plastic tube in his mouth to make his instrument talk. Pete Drake, a phenomenal steel guitar player, shows his stuff in the delightful video with an unusually moribund group of backup singers, musicians, and people who are sitting around in what appears to be a drug- or witchcraft-induced trance. When my wife saw this video she said, "This is where David Lynch got his ideas." I knew the song but hadn't seen the clip, and that very thought entered my head after seeing it! | |
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WaterInYourBath said: MajesticOne89 said: You are not alone.
But no one here's with you... Whisper three words and I'll go running. | |
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Cinnie said: theAudience said: As a point of interest, in 1962 country steel player Pete Drake used an early voice box on a tune called...
...Forever THAT WAS THE ILLEST SHIT I HEARD IN A LONG TIME You don't believe me? Look what I copped:
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RipHer2Shreds said: I followed the link in the youtube clip and read the following:
Peter Frampton wasn't the first guitar player to put a plastic tube in his mouth to make his instrument talk. Pete Drake, a phenomenal steel guitar player, shows his stuff in the delightful video with an unusually moribund group of backup singers, musicians, and people who are sitting around in what appears to be a drug- or witchcraft-induced trance. When my wife saw this video she said, "This is where David Lynch got his ideas." I knew the song but hadn't seen the clip, and that very thought entered my head after seeing it! It does have a kind of Stepford Folks/People of the Damned vibe about it.
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Cinnie said: Cinnie said: THAT WAS THE ILLEST SHIT I HEARD IN A LONG TIME You don't believe me? Look what I copped:
Damn son, you weren't joking. 
That picture of a 45 on the Smash label brings back memories of the... 
...Bruce Channel 45 (Hey Baby) I used to have. 
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theAudience said: RipHer2Shreds said: I followed the link in the youtube clip and read the following:
Peter Frampton wasn't the first guitar player to put a plastic tube in his mouth to make his instrument talk. Pete Drake, a phenomenal steel guitar player, shows his stuff in the delightful video with an unusually moribund group of backup singers, musicians, and people who are sitting around in what appears to be a drug- or witchcraft-induced trance. When my wife saw this video she said, "This is where David Lynch got his ideas." I knew the song but hadn't seen the clip, and that very thought entered my head after seeing it! It does have a kind of Stepford Folks/People of the Damned vibe about it.
tA Tribal Disorder
http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 | |
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if you just saw his crappy SNL performance you'd know that his voice stinks. And that repetitious non melody was worse. |
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Zannaloaf said: if you just saw his crappy SNL performance you'd know that his voice stinks. And that repetitious non melody was worse.
http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/x7q0or It was not good! | |
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Zannaloaf said: if you just saw his crappy SNL performance you'd know that his voice stinks. And that repetitious non melody was worse.
i cringed through most of it. i know what he was trying to do, but his execution was poor. AND THOSE DANCE MOVES!! ugh.... | |
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theAudience said: ...Forever Country ain't always as lo-tech as some might think.
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http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431 damn. if i hadn't seen it, i wouldn't have believed.  | |
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RodeoSchro said: If you have to use the auto tune, then you don't have a "singing voice".
This. | |
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Cinnie said: Zannaloaf said: if you just saw his crappy SNL performance you'd know that his voice stinks. And that repetitious non melody was worse.
http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/x7q0or It was not good! Wow... uh... yeah...  | |
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Timmy84 said: Auto-Tune just called, it wants its reputation back. | |
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I should strive to be more than a smart ass. 
Seriously, this song sounds like it would have potential in the studio (I haven't heard the album yet), but Kanye simply cannot sing. Buy that I don't mean that he's not my cup of tea or that he's not a very good professional. He's simply atrocious as a singer by almost any human measure. Live, without Auto-Tune and great production, he'd be what they'd show the first few weeks of American Idol. But I don't doubt that he sounds great on the record and that I wouldn't be possibly blasting this song. That's not my argument. Not everyone can do everything, or should even try. Perhaps Kanye will become great over time with the culmination of his studio wizardry. But this shit is painful. | |
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Brendan said: I should strive to be more than a smart ass.
Seriously, this song sounds like it would have potential in the studio (I haven't heard the album yet), but Kanye simply cannot sing. Buy that I don't mean that he's not my cup of tea or that he's not a very good professional. He's simply atrocious as a singer by almost any human measure. Live, without Auto-Tune and great production, he'd be what they'd show the first few weeks of American Idol. But I don't doubt that he sounds great on the record and that I wouldn't be possibly blasting this song. That's not my argument. Not everyone can do everything, or should even try. Perhaps Kanye will become great over time with the culmination of his studio wizardry. But this shit is painful. Basically, he should have lipsynced The actual song ain't bad | |
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Cinnie said: Brendan said: I should strive to be more than a smart ass.
Seriously, this song sounds like it would have potential in the studio (I haven't heard the album yet), but Kanye simply cannot sing. Buy that I don't mean that he's not my cup of tea or that he's not a very good professional. He's simply atrocious as a singer by almost any human measure. Live, without Auto-Tune and great production, he'd be what they'd show the first few weeks of American Idol. But I don't doubt that he sounds great on the record and that I wouldn't be possibly blasting this song. That's not my argument. Not everyone can do everything, or should even try. Perhaps Kanye will become great over time with the culmination of his studio wizardry. But this shit is painful. Basically, he should have lipsynced The actual song ain't badPeople complain about it all the time, but the alternative is much worse.
The song sounds very intriguing to me. I just need to hear it without the "picked a guy out of the audience" vocals. | |
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RodeoSchro said: Graycap23 said: FYI. Roger did not use autotune. Roger used a device that mixed his voice with a synth patch, which is similiar 2 a vocoder. He used the same device Steven Tyler used on "Sweet Emotion" and Peter Frampton used on "Do You Feel Like I Do?", right? We used to call it a voice box. As I recall, it had a tube that you had to sing into. not to be an asshole, but it was Joe Perry. not steven tyler | |
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