You have Hard rock, Hardcore, Death Metal, but what exactly is considered hard FUNK?

Name the hardest hitting funk you can think of.

Sander said:

i wanna know if it's good to ya-funkadelic
get the funk out my face-brothers johnson
superbad-james brown
givie it away-red hot chili peppers
when problems arise-fishbone
futureshock-curtis mayfield
slide-slave
skin tight-ohio players

Thanks Diamondpearl1!

I am not necessarily looking for a crossover between funk and rock though. Just Funk squared!

I was thinking Zapp.
Funkadelic - Knee Deep
Lake Side - Fantastic voyage

Can you name more?

BarKays - Holy Ghost, She talks to me with her body
Cameo - Flirt, Soul Army, Keep it hot

Sander said:

dusic-brick
bounce rock skate roll-vaughn mason & crew
rigormortis-cameo
reach for it-george duke
funkin for jamacia-tom browne
habolabotratin-bernard wright
fame-david bowie
hip hug her-booker t & the mg's
express youself-charles wright & the watts 103rd street rhythm section
look-a-py-py-the meters
soulful strut-young holt unlimited
movin-brass construction
son of shaft-bar-kays
hercules-aaron neville
bustin out-rick james
bustin loose-chuck brown & the soul searchers
hyperbolicsylabicsesaqedalmistic-issac hayes
[Edited 12/6/08 20:04pm]

The Isley Brothers
The Barkays
Prince
Rick James
Cameo
Zapp
Con Funk Shun
Midnight Star
The Dazz Band
The Brothers Johnson
Brick
Slave
Lakeside
Kleeer

Late 70's funk is not 'hard funk', in my opinion. I'd say hard funk is the real earthy funk made in the early seventies.

I guess it would be something like 'Get Up Everybody' by Starfire, or 'Jungle Boogie' by Kool & The Gang

FuNkeNsteiN said:

You no like Open Sesame? That's da jam!

Sander said:

James Brown...Doin it to Death

Pfunk...One Nation, Cosmic Slop

I'll think of some more tomorrow when the percocet wears off.

There was a great program on Dutch tele yesterday about funk. The biggest funk fan in Holland named his top three James Brown (cuz he was the first), Sly Stone (cuz he was the best) and George Clinton (most colorful).

I always liked the Mastercuts Funk 1 & 2 albums and their P-Funk compilation.

I

1. Who Is He (And What Is He to You)? - Withers, Bill
2. Wicky Wacky - Curtis, B.
3. Gimme Some More - Brown, James [1]
4. For the Love of Money - Gamble, Kenneth
5. Fire - Williams, James [Dr
6. Pusherman - Mayfield, Curtis
7. Blow Your Head - Brown, James [1]
8. Fencewalk - Mandrill
9. Pick Up the Pieces - Ball, Roger
10. Rock Creek Park - Hall, Joe [Piano]
11. N.T., Pts. 1 & 2 - Kool & the Gang
12. Stone to the Bone - Brown, James [1]

II

01. Brass Construction - Movin'
02. The JB's - You Can Have Your Watergate
03. Kool & The Gang - Funky Stuff - More Funky Stu
04. The Ohio Players - Jive Turkey
05. The Detroit Emeralds - Baby Let Me Take You
06. The Blackbyrds - Do It Fluid
07. Charles Wright & The Watts 103rd St Rhythm Ban
08. Eddie Harris - It's Alright Now
09. The Fatback Band - Keep On Steppin'
10. Donny Hathaway - The Ghetto
11. James Brown - The Boss
12. The Crusaders - Stomp & Buck Dance

P-Funk

1. Disco To Go - Brides Of Funkenstein
2. Dog Talk - K-9 Corporation
3. Four Play - Wesley, Fred & The Horny Horns
4. Funk Funk - Cameo (1)
5. Funken Town - Slave (1)
6. Get Lucky - Well Red
7. Hollywood - Red Hot Chili Peppers
8. Loopzilla - Clinton, George
9. Shake - General Caine
10. Tweakin' - Clinton, George
11. We Came To Funk Ya - Wesley, Fred & The Horny Horns
12. Work That Sucker To Death - Xavier

To me, hard funk would probably consider hard and fast drum beats, deep thumping bass, and brash lyrics. Sometimes a rocking guitar can add to this as well where it seems like more rock than funk. If you're confused about what I'm saying than let me give you some examples:

Hard beats funk:
1. Word Up-Cameo
2. Jungle Boogie-Kool & The Gang
3. Shake Your Rump To The Funk-Bar Kays
4. Thank You For Talkin' To Me Afica-Sly & The Family Stone
5. Chocolate City-Parliament

Rocking hard funk:
1. Cosmic Slop-Funkadelic
2. Slide-Slave
3. Bambi-Prince
4. Talkin' Out The Side Of Your Neck-Cameo
5. Maggot Brain-Funkadelic

Exactly. In order for it to be hard, it's got to be fast and those drums have to pound hard. That bass has to be kickin' also.




The hardest mix of funk and rock I can think of would be The Isley Brothers "Livin' In The Life/Go For Your Guns".

I might say that if you're looking for HARD FUNK that includes the heaviest RAW component, you'd have to look beyond groups (*with a few notable exceptions) that had major label album deals.
*(JB, Dyke & The Blazers, early Kool & The Gang, Meters, etc.)


Here are few suggestions of relatively unknown artists whose recordings have almost no production values (an asset for the "RAW" element) but are what I might consider HARD FUNK.

To save myself some time, these are comps that include a number of artists.

I ran across this Keb Darge series...



...while hunting down a particular tune.


The tune was Baby Don't Cry...



...by an obscure group called Third Guitar



There's another series of FUNK comps (Jazzman)...



...based on regions of the U.S.

Midwest Funk: Funk 45's from Tornado Alley

Texas Funk: Black Gold from the Lone Star State 1968-1975

Florida Funk: 1968-1975
This particular CD includes tracks from 3 Florida groups (Bobby Williams, Westin Prim & Blacklash, The Montereys) I was aware of (actually played with 2 of them) when I lived there.



This could be one starting point that will lead you to other unfamiliar "no-frills" FUNK bands.



tA

Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431

babynoz said:

I knew I should've been more specific...

I don't mean I don't like 70's funk, it's just that I don't consider it 'hard funk'

Whatever makes your dick hard when you listen to it.

Cinnie said:

But then what's the barometer for females?

Brendan said:

nipples

Brendan said:

actually the barometer is if she's hot down south and it ain't July

Sander said:

The AUDIENCE GOT IT RIGHT!

LoDog said:

Yeah, that's what I'm talking bout!

Funk in itself is already a 'hard' genre since funk is hard-soul. But what LoDog said qualifies as the hard in hard funk.

I always thought Graham Central Station is pretty much as hard as funk can get.