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Thread started 12/04/08 3:58am

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Let's face it Michael Jackson needs to grow up and get back with his brothers he's 50 dam it

Come on he's acting like a washed up singer...maybe because he is, his best move now would be to get back with his brothers ..he would at least have a band that worked and have an act...it sad to say it but he's lost the plot!

They could still get a CD out that not a joke he last one had some good trax but the money is made now days live...mike to lazy to get in the gym with his brothers workout and get on the road..he still wants to be a star and demand star monies...record companies are not going to pay!

Face it jacko studio albums take you to much money to produce and having teen boppers like ne-yo and A - CON (akon) can only take your cd sells so far..

Look it would be a tribute to james and the greats who have passed by if he got back with his brother and re-writes HIStory so it ends with some class.

Their i've said it eek
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Reply #1 posted 12/04/08 4:30am

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How is getting back with the group he was with as a child/young adult "growing up"? Seems more like trying to relive the past to me.

Plus, MJ is "an act that works" all by himself, at least in terms of bringing in the money. People will still pay money to see him perform, I suspect. Far fewer people would pay to see the Jackson 5/Jacksons perform - they would still be going to see Michael Jackson, not the other 4/5 middle aged guys on stage with him.

Why should MJ want History be a tribute to JB/other greats? It's by far his most personal album, and it's about him, not his idols. (And I happen to love it just the way it is.)
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Reply #2 posted 12/04/08 4:53am

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How is getting back with the group he was with as a child/young adult "growing up"? Seems more like trying to relive the past to me.

Plus, MJ is "an act that works" all by himself, at least in terms of bringing in the money. People will still pay money to see him perform, I suspect. Far fewer people would pay to see the Jackson 5/Jacksons perform - they would still be going to see Michael Jackson, not the other 4/5 middle aged guys on stage with him.

Why should MJ want History be a tribute to JB/other greats? It's by far his most personal album, and it's about him, not his idols. (And I happen to love it just the way it is.)


MJ "act" does not work anymore he is a "act that is all about reliving the past" how many more 25th type CD's or Special Editions can his fan base take?
What's with the A-Con remix ? getting teeny boppers like Ne-Yo on his tracks..come on he's 50 now can you see him doing Thriller on stage? BAD ..who's bad..uhmmm nope..Can you feel it ..Yes..., PYT...Yes...BJ...yes..come on get with the program he not peter pan he's 50 year's old so it limits what can be done live..

MJ and the Jacksons - live would pull in big money they are the orginal boy band i.e. singing and dancing act...just to give you an idea take that a brit boy band back after 12 years sold 700,000 tickets at £45 upwards!

They sing and dance that's what people want ...mike on stage just would not cut it...he's 50...unless you want a slower version of mike with a backing track playing i'm not sure? eek
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James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
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Annika said:

How is getting back with the group he was with as a child/young adult "growing up"? Seems more like trying to relive the past to me.

Plus, MJ is "an act that works" all by himself, at least in terms of bringing in the money. People will still pay money to see him perform, I suspect. Far fewer people would pay to see the Jackson 5/Jacksons perform - they would still be going to see Michael Jackson, not the other 4/5 middle aged guys on stage with him.


WRONG! There is a lot of love for the J5/Jacksons. it's not all about Michael. Alot of his older fans would get a great feeling seeing them all together as a group one more time. They would fill arenas the world over, accepted, Michael would be the main draw of course, but don't underestimate the love for The Jacksons as a brand.

And if it would mean less chance of him lipsynching (which it would), i'm all for that.
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Reply #4 posted 12/04/08 5:07am

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Marrk said:

Annika said:

How is getting back with the group he was with as a child/young adult "growing up"? Seems more like trying to relive the past to me.

Plus, MJ is "an act that works" all by himself, at least in terms of bringing in the money. People will still pay money to see him perform, I suspect. Far fewer people would pay to see the Jackson 5/Jacksons perform - they would still be going to see Michael Jackson, not the other 4/5 middle aged guys on stage with him.


WRONG! There is a lot of love for the J5/Jacksons. it's not all about Michael. Alot of his older fans would get a great feeling seeing them all together as a group one more time. They would fill arenas the world over, accepted, Michael would be the main draw of course, but don't underestimate the love for The Jacksons as a brand.

And if it would mean less chance of him lipsynching (which it would), i'm all for that.


Oh, don't worry, I'm not underestimating the love still out there for the Jacksons, especially among older fans. It's just that the original post seemed to imply that Michael was not a draw on his own, and needed the rest of them to be a draw, which is I don't think is the case. razz
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Reply #5 posted 12/04/08 5:16am

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Annika said:

Marrk said:



WRONG! There is a lot of love for the J5/Jacksons. it's not all about Michael. Alot of his older fans would get a great feeling seeing them all together as a group one more time. They would fill arenas the world over, accepted, Michael would be the main draw of course, but don't underestimate the love for The Jacksons as a brand.

And if it would mean less chance of him lipsynching (which it would), i'm all for that.


Oh, don't worry, I'm not underestimating the love still out there for the Jacksons, especially among older fans. It's just that the original post seemed to imply that Michael was not a draw on his own, and needed the rest of them to be a draw, which is I don't think is the case. razz


Yep he's not... thats it ...a tour needs to make money ...mike by himself would not make money the quicker he does get back with his brothers the quicker he'll be able to kick start his career again "solo".Any promoter would his salt would they him this...unless you want a really short gig with backing tracks and bad press....his PR has taken alot of hit's he does not need anymore..but hey someone must be buying all these remix..special editions? or are they? eek
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Reply #6 posted 12/04/08 5:19am

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As soon as Michael realizes that he will never make another album like, "Thriller" he will be fine. The fact that he is always trying to make another "Thriller" has gotten in the way of making music.
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Reply #7 posted 12/04/08 5:21am

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LondonStyle said:

Annika said:

How is getting back with the group he was with as a child/young adult "growing up"? Seems more like trying to relive the past to me.

Plus, MJ is "an act that works" all by himself, at least in terms of bringing in the money. People will still pay money to see him perform, I suspect. Far fewer people would pay to see the Jackson 5/Jacksons perform - they would still be going to see Michael Jackson, not the other 4/5 middle aged guys on stage with him.

Why should MJ want History be a tribute to JB/other greats? It's by far his most personal album, and it's about him, not his idols. (And I happen to love it just the way it is.)


MJ "act" does not work anymore he is a "act that is all about reliving the past" how many more 25th type CD's or Special Editions can his fan base take?
What's with the A-Con remix ? getting teeny boppers like Ne-Yo on his tracks..come on he's 50 now can you see him doing Thriller on stage? BAD ..who's bad..uhmmm nope..Can you feel it ..Yes..., PYT...Yes...BJ...yes..come on get with the program he not peter pan he's 50 year's old so it limits what can be done live..

MJ and the Jacksons - live would pull in big money they are the orginal boy band i.e. singing and dancing act...just to give you an idea take that a brit boy band back after 12 years sold 700,000 tickets at £45 upwards!

They sing and dance that's what people want ...mike on stage just would not cut it...he's 50...unless you want a slower version of mike with a backing track playing i'm not sure? eek


I didn't say I was happy with what Michael is doing right now. I would love for him to drop all those shit hoppers he insists on working with. And yes, it would be fun to see them all back on stage together. However, I really don't see how this equals him growing up, unless they dumped all the old preteen/teen hits and did something a little more age appropriate (which would kind of take the fun out of the whole thing). A lot of their old hits relate directly to childhood, coming of age and discovering yourself. Somehow, I have difficulty imagining a bunch of middle aged guys singing songs like ABC and Dancing Machine in all seriousness. :p

Personally, what I would like to see is MJ doing some of his own lesser known but more grown up songs, which he hasn't performed before (and I would want him to do it live, if possible). It would also work with the Jacksons, I suppose, but I don't see them as a prerequisite for MJ growing up artistically.
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Reply #8 posted 12/04/08 5:38am

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Annika said:

LondonStyle said:



MJ "act" does not work anymore he is a "act that is all about reliving the past" how many more 25th type CD's or Special Editions can his fan base take?
What's with the A-Con remix ? getting teeny boppers like Ne-Yo on his tracks..come on he's 50 now can you see him doing Thriller on stage? BAD ..who's bad..uhmmm nope..Can you feel it ..Yes..., PYT...Yes...BJ...yes..come on get with the program he not peter pan he's 50 year's old so it limits what can be done live..

MJ and the Jacksons - live would pull in big money they are the orginal boy band i.e. singing and dancing act...just to give you an idea take that a brit boy band back after 12 years sold 700,000 tickets at £45 upwards!

They sing and dance that's what people want ...mike on stage just would not cut it...he's 50...unless you want a slower version of mike with a backing track playing i'm not sure? eek


I didn't say I was happy with what Michael is doing right now. I would love for him to drop all those shit hoppers he insists on working with. And yes, it would be fun to see them all back on stage together. However, I really don't see how this equals him growing up, unless they dumped all the old preteen/teen hits and did something a little more age appropriate (which would kind of take the fun out of the whole thing). A lot of their old hits relate directly to childhood, coming of age and discovering yourself. Somehow, I have difficulty imagining a bunch of middle aged guys singing songs like ABC and Dancing Machine in all seriousness. :p

Personally, what I would like to see is MJ doing some of his own lesser known but more grown up songs, which he hasn't performed before (and I would want him to do it live, if possible). It would also work with the Jacksons, I suppose, but I don't see them as a prerequisite for MJ growing up artistically.


Look this is Jermaine live "Having a laugh at the Jackson Days" on Big Brother 2007, but if you look closer, you can see that this is a man who brothers are a world class act who have a talent that's just waiting for the right deal...that deal needs Mike ...and Mike needs them...Mike will never deliver "artistically" what people want because he's too old to do BAD and Thriller...but with his brothers he could show the world what we know is their...talent. Alot of the kids in the video was not even born when the Jackson made it big...but you can see they have respect for the talent...and fun..if mike grows up puts aside the ego..he will become again the king of pop!
http://uk.youtube.com/wat...re=related
Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
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Reply #9 posted 12/04/08 5:50am

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Like putty in their hands look at the crowed. biggrin ..could you just dream of the press conference...Mike needs to move fast and get this back on track...

http://uk.youtube.com/wat...re=related
Jacksons 2001 live cool
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Reply #10 posted 12/04/08 6:29am

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I thought he was stupid for turning down touring with them, he could at least be humble about his success and roots, but just comes off as an asshole for turning them down. My dad hates him so much and was even hating on him for turning down touring with his brothers and called them all washed up
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Reply #11 posted 12/04/08 6:36am

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He's stupid for not touring with them? The only thing stupid is this thread...

Michael has been a solo artist for almost thirty years now, and has rarely if ever shown any interest in reuniting as a group. The MSM thing was not a "tour", just a three-day show.... The Jacksons disbanded a LONG time ago.

WRONG! There is a lot of love for the J5/Jacksons. it's not all about Michael. Alot of his older fans would get a great feeling seeing them all together as a group one more time. They would fill arenas the world over, accepted, Michael would be the main draw of course, but don't underestimate the love for The Jacksons as a brand.

Its not all about him? But he of course would be the main draw?

If you care so much about The Jacksons, go and find Tito, Jermaine, Jackie, and Randy and ask them why they haven't reunited..

Once again..Bullshit thread..

Hope the NWO shuts you down!
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Reply #12 posted 12/04/08 6:46am

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Even in his prime, like "Thriller", MJ refused to do the "Motown 25" show with his brothers, and he didn't want to do the "Victory" tour. It may be personal, but maybe he is tired of being used as their mealticket,understanding that he was part of his brothers success to begin with.
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Reply #13 posted 12/04/08 6:53am

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MJ just hire a look alike to fill in for him with all the dancing and lipsync him
I dont think ppl will notice
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Reply #14 posted 12/04/08 6:59am

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asg said:

MJ just hire a look alike to fill in for him with all the dancing and lipsync him
I dont think ppl will notice


lol

I used to want them to reunite but those days are gone. It seems that he barely talks to them, why would he want to reunite with them professionally? Talk about living in the past...
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JackieBlue said:

asg said:

MJ just hire a look alike to fill in for him with all the dancing and lipsync him
I dont think ppl will notice


lol

I used to want them to reunite but those days are gone. It seems that he barely talks to them, why would he want to reunite with them professionally? Talk about living in the past...


I meant it as a solo act
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asg said:

JackieBlue said:



lol

I used to want them to reunite but those days are gone. It seems that he barely talks to them, why would he want to reunite with them professionally? Talk about living in the past...


I meant it as a solo act


I'm agreeing with you. The other stuff was just my two cents. wink
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Reply #17 posted 12/04/08 7:09am

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MJ just hire a look alike to fill in for him with all the dancing and lipsync him
I dont think ppl will notice


Yeah just get a white guy who can moonwalk...and lipsync.. lol
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Reply #18 posted 12/04/08 7:25am

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He's stupid for not touring with them? The only thing stupid is this thread...

Michael has been a solo artist for almost thirty years now, and has rarely if ever shown any interest in reuniting as a group. The MSM thing was not a "tour", just a three-day show.... The Jacksons disbanded a LONG time ago.

WRONG! There is a lot of love for the J5/Jacksons. it's not all about Michael. Alot of his older fans would get a great feeling seeing them all together as a group one more time. They would fill arenas the world over, accepted, Michael would be the main draw of course, but don't underestimate the love for The Jacksons as a brand.

Its not all about him? But he of course would be the main draw?

If you care so much about The Jacksons, go and find Tito, Jermaine, Jackie, and Randy and ask them why they haven't reunited..

Once again..Bullshit thread..

Hope the NWO shuts you down!

biggrin biggrin Good to see you know all there names, considering they have DISBANDED LONG AGO..? can you name all the guys in the nsyc, backstreet boys, nkotb, westlife, boys to men, etc... nope! will people know there name in thirty years time? nope...thanks you have just proven what a strong global brand the Jacksons are ...err strong brands make money...you smurf... lol
if mike hand any sense he would tour with the jacksons and boost his career..but maybe his ego is too big?

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Reply #19 posted 12/04/08 7:35am

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LondonStyle said:

asg said:

MJ just hire a look alike to fill in for him with all the dancing and lipsync him
I dont think ppl will notice


Yeah just get a white guy who can moonwalk...and lipsync.. lol


Just like this Jason Malachi singer I've heard so much about?
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LondonStyle said:

sunsetdriver1999 said:

He's stupid for not touring with them? The only thing stupid is this thread...

Michael has been a solo artist for almost thirty years now, and has rarely if ever shown any interest in reuniting as a group. The MSM thing was not a "tour", just a three-day show.... The Jacksons disbanded a LONG time ago.


Its not all about him? But he of course would be the main draw?

If you care so much about The Jacksons, go and find Tito, Jermaine, Jackie, and Randy and ask them why they haven't reunited..

Once again..Bullshit thread..

Hope the NWO shuts you down!

biggrin biggrin Good to see you know all there names, considering they have DISBANDED LONG AGO..? can you name all the guys in the nsyc, backstreet boys, nkotb, westlife, boys to men, etc... nope! will people know there name in thirty years time? nope...thanks you have just proven what a strong global brand the Jacksons are ...err strong brands make money...you smurf... lol
if mike hand any sense he would tour with the jacksons and boost his career..but maybe his ego is too big?

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Yeah, it's really strange that an MJ fans knows the name of his brothers who were in the group that launched his career.
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Annika said:

LondonStyle said:



Yeah, it's really strange that an MJ fans knows the name of his brothers who were in the group that launched his career.


Nearly. He said Randy, shoulda been Marlon. wink
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Marrk said:

Annika said:



Yeah, it's really strange that an MJ fans knows the name of his brothers who were in the group that launched his career.


Nearly. He said Randy, shoulda been Marlon. wink


Heh, I confess I only read the reply. lol
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So you don't wanna see a Jacksons reunion either timmy? I'd hate to be disappointed in you.

Anything to get MJ back on that damn stage performing LIVE! whats up with that?
Those dancers on his tours (you know, those mohicaned, punked up fools!) are not a patch on his brothers.

god, i give up. He's lazy, scared, bored, disinterested, really hates his brothers or all of those. what a shame.
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Timmy84 said:



So you don't wanna see a Jacksons reunion either timmy? I'd hate to be disappointed in you.

Anything to get MJ back on that damn stage performing LIVE! whats up with that?
Those dancers on his tours (you know, those mohicaned, punked up fools!) are not a patch on his brothers.

god, i give up. He's lazy, scared, bored, disinterested, really hates his brothers or all of those. what a shame.


I'm turned off by the Jacksons at this point. It's all about the Isleys now, knicka! lol



Besides since they could never ever perform without Mike successfully, what's the point, lol. I just doubt we'll see a reunion.
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Timmy84 said:

Marrk said:



So you don't wanna see a Jacksons reunion either timmy? I'd hate to be disappointed in you.

Anything to get MJ back on that damn stage performing LIVE! whats up with that?
Those dancers on his tours (you know, those mohicaned, punked up fools!) are not a patch on his brothers.

god, i give up. He's lazy, scared, bored, disinterested, really hates his brothers or all of those. what a shame.


I'm turned off by the Jacksons at this point. It's all about the Isleys now, knicka! lol



Besides since they could never ever perform without Mike successfully, what's the point, lol. I just doubt we'll see a reunion.
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I'm getting that! but i don't think they tried, and maybe not much point, but still... shame anyway! lol

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Reply #27 posted 12/04/08 2:07pm

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Mj has moved on.....but his fans have not.
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Reply #28 posted 12/04/08 2:15pm

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Annika said:

How is getting back with the group he was with as a child/young adult "growing up"? Seems more like trying to relive the past to me.


Easy.....

The Jacksons-era (NOT Jackson 5) was a more funkier time as far as music is concern. And funk is "grown folks" music. cool
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Reply #29 posted 12/04/08 2:44pm

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Timmy84 said:



I'm turned off by the Jacksons at this point. It's all about the Isleys now, knicka! lol



Besides since they could never ever perform without Mike successfully, what's the point, lol. I just doubt we'll see a reunion.
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I'm getting that! but i don't think they tried, and maybe not much point, but still... shame anyway! lol

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See when you have a family member who becomes the MOST prominent of your group, it's hard to do it without that person and it's different with groups who are not related versus groups who are families. And since MJ was the most prominent, it has been harder and harder to do it without that member so in turn if you ain't gonna do with Mike, don't do it at all. They DID try in 1989-1990 but it flopped.
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