Rank: #11
Artist: Janet Jackson, Hedspin
Venue: General Motors Place
City/State: Vancouver, British Columbia
Event Date: Sept. 10, 2008
Gross Sales: $927,098
Attend/Capacity: 8,941 / 11,074
Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0

Rank: #30
Artist: Janet Jackson, LL Cool J
Venue: Staples Center
City/State: Los Angeles, California
Event Date: Sept. 17, 2008
Gross Sales: $1,181,045
Attend/Capacity: 12,109 / 13,025
Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0

Rank: #41
Artist: Janet Jackson, Nelly
Venue: Oracle Arena
City/State: Oakland, California
Event Date: Sept. 13, 2008
Gross Sales: $809,478
Attend/Capacity: 9,430 / 12,282
Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0

Rank: #21
Artist: Janet Jackson
Venue: Mandalay Bay Events Center
City/State: Las Vegas, Nevada
Event Date: Sept. 19, 2008
Gross Sales: $1,027,602
Attend/Capacity: 8,065 / 8,168
Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0
Prices: $300.75, $55.75

Rank: #28
Artist: Janet Jackson, LL Cool J
Venue: Allstate Arena
City/State: Rosemont, Illinois
Event Date: Sept. 25, 2008
Gross Sales: $792,139
Attend/Capacity: 9,519 / 11,541
Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0
Prices: $129.75, 24.75

Rank: #11
Janet Jackson, LL Cool J
Verizon Center
Washington, D.C.
Oct. 15, 2008
$1,077,846
9,720 / 10,389
1 / 0
$129.75, $49.75
Live Nation

Rank: #14
Janet Jackson, LL Cool J
Izod Center
East Rutherford, N.J.
Oct. 17, 2008
$883,472
10,865 / 14,247
1 / 0
$365.76, $12
Live Nation

Rank: #28
Janet Jackson, LL Cool J, DJ Playboy
Toyota Center
Houston, Texas
Oct. 21, 2008
$548,039
7,090 /
7,470
1 / 0
$124.75, $49.75
Live Nation

Rank: #30
Janet Jackson, LL Cool J, DJ Playboy
American Airlines Center
Dallas, Texas
Oct. 22, 2008
$532,393
7,729 / 11,640
1 /0
$124.75, $49.75
Live Nation

The DC show was great. There were hardly any empty seats.

I can tell you the Toyota Center holds about 20,000 for a concert - not 7,470 as shown in the post. I guess they curtained off more than half the arena. Looks like the same thing in Dallas - the American Airlines Center also holds close to 20,000.

And what's up with the ticket prices in E. Rutherford, N.J.? $365.76 or $12?

amit1234 said:

$12 tixs? thats very cheap

RodeoSchro said:

The simple means tixs were priced at those 2 levels
the high price must be for first rows

I don't remember there being $12 tix. At the least maybe $57.

RodeoSchro said:

It seems the figures are already being manipulated to hide the real story.

Yeah. The real story is that she's playing to average crowds of 9-10,000 people a night.

Shame on her. What a flop.

amit1234 said:

When you have paid to book a venue that seats 20,000 people and you only sell 7,000 tickets, then you are clearly in trouble, particularly when you have an expensive stage show.

Janet looks for bailout
Ship is foundering, but the singer tries to patch it up with a summit meeting after 'Rock Witchu' tour flops


November 7, 2008

BY BILL ZWECKER Sun-Times Columnist

Things sure have not been going well for Janet Jackson lately. While still popular with many, the most successful female member of the musical Jackson family is facing a tough patch in her career, leading to a planned summit of Jackson's inner circle.

I'm hearing the meeting could occur as early as this weekend and will include Jackson; her main man, producer Jermaine Dupri, and possibly a phone link-up with big brother Michael Jackson. This follows Jackson canceling the remaining dates on her ''Rock Witchu'' tour due to disappointing ticket sales.


Earlier, a series of dates was postponed due to Jackson's migraine headaches that led to vertigo. None of those skipped dates will be rescheduled. This all happens following another embarrassment: LL Cool J dropping off Jackson's tour for so-called ''scheduling conflicts.''

An inside source bluntly called it ''a case of someone leaving a sinking ship.''

http://www.suntimes.com/e...07.article

Why is it so hard to believe that LL truely left because of scheduling conflicts?? The tour was supposed to be done on Oct. 26th... that was his initial engagement... if he would have just jumped a sinking ship, I'm sure he would'nt have returned for one gig after Janet's, real or imagined, illness! And what good would it do to call up Michael... he has his own problems and already stated he would not be part of any Jacksons tour... that article is bs!

midnightmover said:

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Yes, they are the Verizon center holds 20k. It is easy to say you do not have empty seats when half the arena has been curtained off.

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Rank: #11
Janet Jackson, LL Cool J
Verizon Center
Washington, D.C.
Oct. 15, 2008
$1,077,846
9,720 / 10,389
1 / 0
$129.75, $49.75
Live Nation

laurarichardson said:

Nothing was curtained off... the top section was just sparsely populated!

laurarichardson said:

Wow, they misrepresented that one too? So just how many venues have they lied about?

laurarichardson said:

Tickets are not going to be sold behind the stage where people can't see. When Chris Brown played there last year the capacity wasn't 20,000 either: http://www.reuters.com/ar...7220080131

At my show it seemed a small portion of the arena is curtained off in comparison to the whole thing. At Madonna's show I was suprised to see they had people sitting damn near behind the curtain. I don't know what they saw but they were back there.

JackieBlue said:

It depends on how far the stage extends onto the floor in each venue. People throwing out capacity numbers of 20,000 think tickets are going to be sold behind the stage. Look up the numbers for any concert at these arenas where the stage isn't in the center of the floor and you will find capacity numbers that are significantly less.

The 20.000 capacity is usually at basketball matches or in the round concerts... they can't have that many at end stage concerts as a third to a foruth is usually used up by the stage!

It’s tickets sold versus what’s available but do any of us really know what was availble per arena?

I think we may never know the real deal regarding this tour altho it seems most people have made up their minds. I don't think it will matter what Janet says on Larry King.

midnightmover said:

Nobody ever plays the whole arena. They always curtain off atleast half.

PatrickS77 said:

hey take it easy...

janet is great.,

but u better admit that J.J is not a "Big name" nowdays....

it´s sad.. but true

I want to see how other people's concerts are selling. To me, that article sounds like more media spin to make Janet look bad. It's just odd to me because those numbers don't look that bad.

Why do people think the attendence numbers are fudged? Who released them?

myloveis4ever said:

Well, 9.000 - 10.000 people per show is nothing to sniff at... it could be worse... look at the numbers e.g. Mary J. Blige, Alanis Morissette, Sheryl Crow or Lenny Kravitz does... but sure, Janet has been bigger once!

lameless said:

Millennium Stadium Cardiff 33,460 / 33,460 (100%) $5,279,107
Stade Charles Ehrmann Nice 41,483 / 41,483 (100%) $4,381,242
Olympic Stadium Berlin 47,368 / 47,368 (100%) $6,048,086
Military Airfield Zurich 70,314 / 70,314 (100%) $11,093,631
Amsterdam Arena Amsterdam 50,588 / 50,588 (100%) $8,140,858
LTU Arena Dusseldorf 35,014 / 35,014 (100%) $4,650,327
Olympic Stadium Rome 57,690 / 57,690 (100%) $5,713,196
Commerzbank Arena Frankfurt 39,543 / 39,543 (100%) $6,020,706
Wembley Stadium London 73,349 / 73,349 (100%) $11,796,540
Parque da Bela Vista Lisbon 75,000 / 75,000 (100%) $6,295,068
Olympic Stadium Sevilla 47,712 / 59,258 (82%) $4,874,380
Circuito Ricardo Tormo Cheste Valencia 50,143 / 50,143 (100%) $4,941,980
Stade de France Paris 138,163 / 138,163 (100%) $17,583,211
Danube Island Vienna 57,002 / 57,002 (100%) $8,140,858
Jaz Beach Budva 47,524 / 47,524 (100%) $3,463,063
Olympic Stadium Athens 75,637 / 75,637 (100%) $9,030,440
TOTAL 939,891 / 951,437 (99%) $117,452,693

PatrickS77 said:

Yeah, but that's made up for by the space on the pitch where the audience stand in concerts. In matches that space is taken up with the players playing the game.

sextonseven said:

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People buy tickets behind the stage and venues sell tickets behind the stage if there is a demand for them. Why would you expect tickets to sell out for Chris Brown? We can see backflips at the circus for a lot less money.

The reality of the situation is Janet cannot sell out large venues she should have performed at smaller halls.

If the Musicology tour had done this poorly some you would be still discussing it Not sure why Janet is getting a pass.

laurarichardson said:

Most artists will not sell tickets behind the stage when it's situated at the end of the floor. That is a fact.

I did not expect Chris Brown to sell out, I said the capacity for his show was less than 20,000 as was all concert figures I could find for that arena.

midnightmover said:

The space on the floor doesn't house as many people as a third to a fourth of the stands, which is closed off due to the stage being there, especially when it's a seated concert and in Janet's case, a lot of space is used up by the catwalk and b-stage!

These can't be right. The Toyota Center in Houston seats 18,000. Even with the rear of the stage closed off alot of the seating on the floow should make up for that. Is maximum cpacity basketball or entrie population with the floor and all seats filled?

Either way it's strange cause such a minor amount of people sit behind the stage. If it's basketball cpacity and floor seats can easily makeup that means the rear stage is larger than the fooor. And if the Toyota center seats 18,000 for b-ball and 7,000 for concerts that means that way over half the people are sitting behind the stage that the floor seats don't makeup for. ANd if that's fullcpcacity that means more than half the people sit behind the stage. Anyone who's been to an arena know's that's clearly not the case.