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Reply #30 posted 11/21/08 8:37pm

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LightOfArt said:



I was just gonna post that, the crowd is going apeshit! I'd hate to be in the front row with everyone pushing and screaming like that.
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Reply #31 posted 11/21/08 8:42pm

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Anyway IMO the song is just about universal equality, he's always been passionate about that. The video is just meant to be a cultural experience, seeing such a classically American pop star "branch out" in different dance styles and again helps expose people to different cultures. Plus, it looks spectacular and MJ's vids were always about taking it to the next level.

The intro is confusing though.

The faces at the end again go with the universal theme, "we're all one" "we're all the same" etc etc

The alleyway dance is really just self expression, which often doesn't mean anything or make sense.
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Reply #32 posted 11/21/08 8:49pm

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Reply #33 posted 11/22/08 1:01am

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Timmy84 said:


Oh yeah, the FUCK was up with the Moonwalker movie!?! lol It was like he played four roles:

1.) Michael
2.) "Gangster Michael"
3.) Car Michael lol
4.) ROBOT Michael
5.) Shirt-ripping rock star Michael

confused lol


Don't forget Spaceship Michael.
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Reply #34 posted 11/22/08 10:05am

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Timmy84 said:


Oh yeah, the FUCK was up with the Moonwalker movie!?! lol It was like he played four roles:

1.) Michael
2.) "Gangster Michael"
3.) Car Michael lol
4.) ROBOT Michael
5.) Shirt-ripping rock star Michael

confused lol


Don't forget Spaceship Michael.

wasnt he a clay rabbit 2 lol
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Reply #35 posted 11/22/08 10:06am

Timmy84

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spacedolphin said:



Don't forget Spaceship Michael.

wasnt he a clay rabbit 2 lol


Yes. lol

Damn... Michael was just fucking weird in that whole thing.
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Reply #36 posted 11/22/08 10:14am

Imago

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"You're under arrest"
"I guess I am black"

OMG, I didn't have my sound turned on, so at first I thought this was the real thing falloff

I was like... wtf whofarted


falloff


UGH Michael disbelief
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Reply #37 posted 11/22/08 10:31am

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Black or White ain´t my all time favourite song. It was heavily overplayed, but I have to admit, I enjoyed it the most at a concert - that was wild.

As for the video, I think it´s just great, chaotic, but original and genius. I have to admit I don´t get what he was trying to say by the panther section, but the dancing was cool. It would have been even greater if he did a simple dance section to no music and lay off the crotch-grabbing and smashing windows.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #38 posted 11/22/08 11:06am

shesoffthewall

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"You're under arrest"
"I guess I am black"



I remember watching that skit when it first aired. Funny as hell! lol
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Reply #39 posted 11/22/08 11:09am

shesoffthewall

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headbang

This is a great example of how Michael's stage performances still grab you even if you don't care for the song.
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Reply #40 posted 11/22/08 11:11am

Timmy84

shesoffthewall said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:



"You're under arrest"
"I guess I am black"



I remember watching that skit when it first aired. Funny as hell! lol


And it's still funny after 17 years. lol Tommy Davidson was a clown! falloff
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Reply #41 posted 11/22/08 11:14am

shesoffthewall

Timmy84 said:

shesoffthewall said:




I remember watching that skit when it first aired. Funny as hell! lol


And it's still funny after 17 years. lol Tommy Davidson was a clown! falloff



Tommy was always on point with his impersonations on Michael and Sammy. lol
[Edited 11/22/08 11:15am]
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Reply #42 posted 11/22/08 11:16am

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shesoffthewall said:

Timmy84 said:



And it's still funny after 17 years. lol Tommy Davidson was a clown! falloff



Tommy was always on point with his impersonations on Michael and Sammy. lol

"This fellow right here is a swell cat"
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Reply #43 posted 11/22/08 11:17am

Timmy84

shesoffthewall said:

Timmy84 said:



And it's still funny after 17 years. lol Tommy Davidson was a clown! falloff



Tommy was always on point with his impersonations on Michael and Sammy. lol
[Edited 11/22/08 11:15am]


His imitation of Sammy was DEAD-ON! lol lol lol

He should play him in that biopic for real, lol.
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Reply #44 posted 11/22/08 11:23am

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Timmy84 said:

shesoffthewall said:




Tommy was always on point with his impersonations on Michael and Sammy. lol
[Edited 11/22/08 11:15am]


His imitation of Sammy was DEAD-ON! lol lol lol

He should play him in that biopic for real, lol.

Tommy does great impressions of everyone ... MJ, Sugar Ray, Spike Lee, Sammy, Rick James, Bobby McFarrin, LOL.

Eddie G. does Sammy great also. lol
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Reply #45 posted 11/22/08 11:27am

Timmy84

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Timmy84 said:



His imitation of Sammy was DEAD-ON! lol lol lol

He should play him in that biopic for real, lol.

Tommy does great impressions of everyone ... MJ, Sugar Ray, Spike Lee, Sammy, Rick James, Bobby McFarrin, LOL.

Eddie G. does Sammy great also. lol


I forgot about Eddie. He sure does. lol

Speaking of Tommy, God, did you see him when he did MC Hammer?!

"Uh oh uh oh" while his "pants" are over his head. falloff That was a classic skit! lol
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Reply #46 posted 11/22/08 11:27am

shesoffthewall

Timmy84 said:

shesoffthewall said:




Tommy was always on point with his impersonations on Michael and Sammy. lol
[Edited 11/22/08 11:15am]


His imitation of Sammy was DEAD-ON! lol lol lol

He should play him in that biopic for real, lol.


You know! I always thought he should've played Sammy in that tv movie that was done a few years back about the Rat Pack, instead of getting Don Cheadle.
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Reply #47 posted 11/22/08 11:28am

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shesoffthewall said:

Timmy84 said:



His imitation of Sammy was DEAD-ON! lol lol lol

He should play him in that biopic for real, lol.


You know! I always thought he should've played Sammy in that tv movie that was done a few years back about the Rat Pack, instead of getting Don Cheadle.

Don Cheeto as Sammy D. mad
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Reply #48 posted 11/22/08 11:29am

shesoffthewall

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Timmy84 said:



His imitation of Sammy was DEAD-ON! lol lol lol

He should play him in that biopic for real, lol.

Tommy does great impressions of everyone ... MJ, Sugar Ray, Spike Lee, Sammy, Rick James, Bobby McFarrin, LOL.

Eddie G. does Sammy great also. lol


Tommy is a MASTER! lol

Eddie does MJ great too.
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Reply #49 posted 11/22/08 11:29am

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Timmy84 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:


Tommy does great impressions of everyone ... MJ, Sugar Ray, Spike Lee, Sammy, Rick James, Bobby McFarrin, LOL.

Eddie G. does Sammy great also. lol


I forgot about Eddie. He sure does. lol

Speaking of Tommy, God, did you see him when he did MC Hammer?!

"Uh oh uh oh" while his "pants" are over his head. falloff That was a classic skit! lol

Got it on DVD. Have you seen the Too Legit To Quit spoof??
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Reply #50 posted 11/22/08 11:35am

Timmy84

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Timmy84 said:



I forgot about Eddie. He sure does. lol

Speaking of Tommy, God, did you see him when he did MC Hammer?!

"Uh oh uh oh" while his "pants" are over his head. falloff That was a classic skit! lol

Got it on DVD. Have you seen the Too Legit To Quit spoof??


Yeah I think so. But it's been so long, I forgot to look for that on YouTube. LOL Wasn't when Hammer was accused of being a sell-out? lol
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Reply #51 posted 11/22/08 4:10pm

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Timmy84 said:

spacedolphin said:



I agree. I could see the irony of hardcore street thugs being ballerinas in Bad, but what was the message here? Reminded me of Moonwalker when he had to save the children by transforming into Voltron with Cape Canaveral in his frikkin chest. I guess he's all about peace and love unil somebody writes about you in the paper - then you respond by smashing their windshields in. And as a young boy, I did not need to see Wacko letting Mrs. Palmer and her five daughters inspect the family jewels. In a music video. Thank goodness David Fincher gave him some class later on.


Oh yeah, the FUCK was up with the Moonwalker movie!?! lol It was like he played four roles:

1.) Michael
2.) "Gangster Michael"
3.) Car Michael lol
4.) ROBOT Michael
5.) Shirt-ripping rock star Michael

confused lol

There were sooooo many plot holes in Moonwalker lol

1.Where were the kid's parents?
2.Why was Kellie cryin' all the fuckin time!
3.Where did Michael go when left as a spaceship
4.Where did all those damn people come from to watch Come Together
5.What happened to the people in the Smooth Criminal scene?
6.Did the kids have a place to stay?

I mean damn lol
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Reply #52 posted 11/22/08 4:23pm

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:



Oh yeah, the FUCK was up with the Moonwalker movie!?! lol It was like he played four roles:

1.) Michael
2.) "Gangster Michael"
3.) Car Michael lol
4.) ROBOT Michael
5.) Shirt-ripping rock star Michael

confused lol

There were sooooo many plot holes in Moonwalker lol

1.Where were the kid's parents?
2.Why was Kellie cryin' all the fuckin time!
3.Where did Michael go when left as a spaceship
4.Where did all those damn people come from to watch Come Together
5.What happened to the people in the Smooth Criminal scene?
6.Did the kids have a place to stay?

I mean damn lol


1.) Michael thinks adults are "ignorant", lol.
2.) Kellie was crying because she wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom, lol.
3.) Michael had to get some gas for the spaceship.
4.) He brought them from the spaceship.
5.) They all disappeared because they were 1930s artifacts, lol.
6.) Hell naw

lol

If this was a box-office movie, I'll give it a F. lol
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Reply #53 posted 11/22/08 4:24pm

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the dance part at the end is michael releasing his frustration at racism and prejudice through dance
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Reply #54 posted 11/22/08 4:26pm

Timmy84

OfftheWall said:

the dance part at the end is michael releasing his frustration at racism and prejudice through dance


So he said in '99. lol I remembered when he said that. But it still looks like simulating sex to me. confused
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Reply #55 posted 11/22/08 4:27pm

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Timmy84 said:

OfftheWall said:

the dance part at the end is michael releasing his frustration at racism and prejudice through dance


So he said in '99. lol I remembered when he said that. But it still looks like simulating sex to me. confused

did he say that? i just made it up rofl
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Reply #56 posted 11/22/08 4:44pm

Timmy84

OfftheWall said:

Timmy84 said:



So he said in '99. lol I remembered when he said that. But it still looks like simulating sex to me. confused

did he say that? i just made it up rofl


I don't know the exact quote but he told MTV News in 1999 when they were doing the 100 greatest videos (Black or White was in the top 50 if I'm not mistaken) and he said that he wanted to do something that would address racism and bigotry and then he said during the dance, something "got loose" inside him and he let it go.

Yeah he let it go alright. He just wanted to be another horny dude. That was not an anti-racist dance. I could understand if he danced in the style of traditional African dance, but holding your crotch 13 times is NOT an anti-racist statement. That's perversion. wink

Ain't nothing wrong with that but he a fool if he think I'm believing it. lol
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Reply #57 posted 11/22/08 5:49pm

NMusiqNSoul

damn. when BOW came out and i watched the premiere as a kid I was laughing so hard at all the movements and dancing without music i didnt get too much the fuck he was doing but all I know was I was excited.
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Reply #58 posted 11/22/08 5:52pm

Timmy84

NMusiqNSoul said:

damn. when BOW came out and i watched the premiere as a kid I was laughing so hard at all the movements and dancing without music i didnt get too much the fuck he was doing but all I know was I was excited.


My nephew was like that. lol
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Reply #59 posted 11/22/08 6:18pm

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he sang it cuz he wrote it nod
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