TonyVanDam said:

That wasn't the only moment. When Michael was working on the Dangerous album, he wanted Madonna on In The Closet and her idea for the video was for Michael to dress in full drag and her dressed like a man. Michael got pissed and called Janet about it

and then they named Michael's snake Madonna

No, how could he be a homophobe....he's gay....

LightOfArt said:

Mike had 2 snakes. The blonde python was named Madonna. The brown python was named Muscles.

vainandy said:

Yeah,Madonna knows that Michael is gay and she wanted him to come out of the closet.She wanted to "liberate" him.Oddly enough,it was Janet was got upset about this and began dissing Madonna in interviews.I guess Janet was offended that someone dared to imply that her superstar brother could be gay

Do you guys have one shred of evidence that Janet's hatred for Madonna comes from Madge trying to "out" her brother? It sounds like pure speculation to me. Hell, the hatred could just as easily stem from that moment in Truth or Dare where one of her dancers said her outfit looked like Janet, and Madonna told him to "bite your tongue". It could also stem from plain old fashioned jealousy. I remember hearing once that Janet also had strong competitive feelings with..... Mariah Carey.

Kim69 said:

many gays are homophobes and many homophobes are gay.

That's very possible. Hell, just look at Prince.

That would have been hilarious!

SoulAlive said:

That was probably after when she tried to sleep with him and all he did was giggle

I truly think Michael's issue has to do with intimacy issues. It's always seemed that way to me

midnightmover said:

I still don't know how their feud started

I don't really care either

bboy87 said:

Madonna is confused by it too. She was asked about it once and she seemed baffled as to why Janet hated her so much. They'd never met or anything. As far as I can see it was Janet who was doing the hating, not Madonna.

And Michael has no intimacy issues when it comes to little boys. He shares his bed with them, after all.

graecophilos said:

Yeah there is a difference between homosexuality and peodophilia.

Mozorro said:

Not really. A man that molests girls is still a straight man.

A gay man isn't a paedophile, but a paedophile that likes little boys is a gay man. Although I think Michael is the former rather than the latter. A gay man that isn't a paedophile.

Arnotts said:

They are many pedophiles who fuck both little boys and women, and have absolutely no interest in adult males. They are not "gay", they are pedophiles, period...

Many pedophiles molest both girls and boys...

A man molesting a girl, doesn't make him straight, it makes him a pedophile...

Some pedophiles have no adult orientation whatsoever, whichever gender they choose to abuse, isn't a reflect of their orientation, or proof that they even have one.
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It is funny when females show their masculine side, they're considered tomboys or feisty, but when men show their soft side, they're labeled as gay. I have heard a lot of gay hardcore rappers in the business, but they keep it quiet. If you don't show your affection in public, it doesn't make you gay, and if you do show affection in public, it doesn't make you straight. One never knows what goes on behind closed doors. Question: Should your gayday go off on men more than women?

I hate hate HATE pedophilia and homosexuality being mentioned in the same sentence

okay this was more about him bein g a pedophile or not and not whether or not he's gay.
Hoewever it occurs to me that most people think he's gay. If he would out himself, I'm sure most people would have sympathy. He could say he was repressed by his family and stuff. I'm sure he would succeed in getting positive reactions.

TonyVanDam said:

vainandy said:



I know you are a big Madonna fan. Remember the year that she and Michael Jackson went to an awards show together? I remember reading in a tabloid that afterwards, she went to his place with him. Then she told him that she knew he was gay and needed to come out of the closet. She even offered to let her gay dancers give him a makeover both imagewise and lookswise because he was still wearing the out of style scary curl. Of course Michael told her...."I'm not gay". Yeah right!

Madonna claimed that he came to her place,NOT his,though she didn't state what happened. She talks about it on YouTube if it's still there.

SoulAlive said:

Janet was offended because it was none of Madonna's fucking business, plain and simple. Janet has always been the closest to Michael in the family. If someone came along and tried to pull you kicking and screaming out of the closet, I'm sure your family would feel the same way. Coming out is a very personal decision and is not your hag's to make. You'd think Madonna would have known this.
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midnightmover said:

That doesn't make sense - during that period, Janet was more successful than Madonna.

As for Janet & Mariah, they have been friends for a long time.

VoicesCarry said:

Especially if you're not gay, you'd be pretty pissed

I thought he was gay during Thriller and Bad. I couldn't see him with a woman. Now, I don't know. I think he's asexual or too scared to admit he's gay. He probably thinks he has more to lose and unfortunately, many people will think he's a child molester if he comes out because some people put those two things together and then the molester shit will resurface and then his crazy parents will probably not talk to him...he's got a lot to lose

The biggest problem with Michael is that he hates himself, and nothing can save him from that.

LiquidGold said:

I can't see him with a man, either. He just seemed too kidlike to me.

He has said he isn't gay so if it's the truth, it's the truth. Not much to say after that

He married and fucked Lisa Marie, so I'd say there's more evidence of him being straight than gay. You know... considering he has never married and then fucked a man before. Just something to think about

VoicesCarry said:

I don't think Madonna really cares what they feel on the matter, I mean she outed her own brother without his permission, and he's understandably very angry about it.

WildStyle said:

What you said is not really something to think about. First of all Michael can't marry a man even if he wanted to, and who knows if he ever has 'fucked' a man before. None of that is more evidencec to either side.

Arnotts said:

Well we already know that he married and fucked Lisa Marie. There is no evidence at all that he has ever had a relationship with a man. Going by that, he's straight 'til he says he ain't.