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Printablemidnightmover said: kibbles said: but that statement alone is why i don't think it will happen. people are going to see madonna (though i don't like her and wouldn't pay to see her) b/c there is something to see. the name value you speak of is the equivalent of a trainwreck. would you pay money to see a trainwreck? like jackie said, he would probably charge as much as madonna, and you'd be sitting there wondering if he would show up, and if does, if he's be able to perform. you've indicated yourself that his heart isn't in it. i think it does matter that he's sh** now. in these economic times, people are not going to shell out money for sh**...they shouldn't, anyway. You have a higher opinion of the public than I do. Firstly, many of them don't know he's shit now (just listen to SoulAlive advising Michael to do acoustic concerts for instance). Secondly, with modern day technology it's very easy to hide shitness. I saw some clips of The Spice Girls show and they were miming their crappy songs and dancing badly, but the stage set was impressive, the lights were great and for the audience it was just a trip down memory lane anyway. They didn't care. People are mostly going just to have a night out, say they were there, and to sing along with their old favourites. The sense of occasion is usually enough and with MJ you'd certainly get that. And don't forget performers of MJ's age are all benefitting from the nostalgia of their old fans. Even a lame performer like George Michael is making more money on tour now than he ever did in his heyday. yeah, i've always gotten a chuckle out of that particular piece of advice from soul alive! (no offense, soul!) 
maybe you're right. after all, elvis' die hard fans kept going to see him when no rational, sentient being would have plopped down money to see him. there's such a hagiography around him now, but the fact of the matter is, he was just this side of being a total, total has been at the time of his death, much like mj. the elvis estate will not release his last concert 'performance' b/c it would undo all the hardwork they've put in over the last 30 years trying to erase the memory of what he had become the moment it hit the video shelves. [Edited 11/18/08 13:00pm] | |
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missfee said: Timmy84 said: Sheikh seeks millions from Michael Jackson
http://www.cnn.com/2008/W....court.ap/ LONDON, England (AP) -- The son of an Arab monarch is taking the King of Pop to court over an album and an autobiography Michael Jackson was allegedly paid for but never produced. Sheikh Abdulla bin Hamad Al Khalifa is seeking $7 million from the embattled singer at London's Royal Courts of Justice. Lawyers for Al Khalifa say the money was intended as an advance on a joint recording project. Jackson, however, claims the cash was a gift. David Sherborne, representing Al Khalifa, says the case would mainly hinge on the nature of Jackson's friendship with the sheikh. Jackson was not in court as the trial opened Monday. Jackson's finances fell apart following his arrest in 2003 on charges that he molested a 13-year old boy at Neverland. He moved to Bahrain after being acquitted. I don't know what's scarier, an Arab Prince suing MJ, or MJ's picture above...
[Edited 11/17/08 18:43pm] So what are you doing on a prince forum???? Eat this....  | |
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You are gonna make me nWo this thread, keep it up.
Anyway, damn kibbles, I mean, I almost didn't recognize it but when Elvis was touring in his final years. Weren't the US in a recession then too? | |
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monk76 said: missfee said: I don't know what's scarier, an Arab Prince suing MJ, or MJ's picture above...
[Edited 11/17/08 18:43pm] So what are you doing on a prince forum???? Eat this.... LMAO! Yeah, Prince fans should indeed be careful when it comes to that departement! No wonder Prince wants all his pics removed.... he's embarrassed!!  And I can't blame him![Edited 11/18/08 14:13pm] | |
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Geez... over at MJJC they seriously started a thread with get well wishes for Michael! I mean... come on... he's been out and about several times in the last couple of weeks, giving messages to fans and now as he has to appear in court he's suddenly supposed to be deathly ill?? I'm not really buying that! | |
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PatrickS77 said: Geez... over at MJJC they seriously started a thread with get well wishes for Michael! I mean... come on... he's been out and about several times in the last couple of weeks, giving messages to fans and now as he has to appear in court he's suddenly supposed to be deathly ill?? I'm not really buying that!
Yeah that's so fucked up. I mean if he's sick, get well. But I'm like what the hell is it? I didn't wanna say nothing because I know those dumbasses will infract me so I'm holding my thoughts over there. If it turned out to be NOTHING by Thursday, THEN WHAT!?! They're gonna lock it?  | |
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Again you're playing fake over there... playing all worried! LOL I questioned his illness there and that got me banned! LMAO! Stupid fuckers... as if they could keep me out... I'm already back there!  Kinda looks stupid though with the standard get up! | |
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PatrickS77 said: Again you're playing fake over there... playing all worried! LOL I questioned his illness there and that got me banned! LMAO! Stupid fuckers... as if they could keep me out... I'm already back there!
Kinda looks stupid though with the standard get up!Sometimes you gotta be fake to protect yourself. Plus I'm building a reputation at the non-MJ music forum. I mean... goddamn... I just don't get some people, man. You don't wanna sound heartless but damn when someone has made as many mistakes as he has... damn, I mean... SPEECHLESS is what you call it. [Edited 11/18/08 14:51pm] | |
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Both Michael and the Prince made a stupid decision. Period
Off topic: How much were the Bad Tour and Dangerous Tour tickets? "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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I mean... I don't blame him... if I would be in L.A. with my family and would have to hop on a plane for a 11 to 12 hour flight to testify in a trial, which I'll probably loose and all it needs is to ask my dr. friend to give me a attest, so I don't have to go, I would do it too!
But for all the fans to go crazy now and wishing him well and proclaiming that they won't be able to sleep without thinking that there might be a reason for him being "sick" is ridiculous! And even more ridiculous if some state that on the board! But whatever.. they can't keep me out! | |
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Jackson sued over Bahrain deal Jackson's lawyers said he would seek permission to testify by video link from the US. Jackson's US spokesman Ramon Bain could not be reached for comment yesterday. Neither could 2 Seas chief executive officer Guy Holmes, the former chairman of the London-based independent record label Gut Records. He was expected to oversee the production of the album but earlier told the BBC the deal had never been formalised with Jackson. When the GDN attempted to contact Mr Holmes, it emerged Gut Records had gone into administration several months ago and its assets had been bought by Phoenix Music International. However, officials said the 2 Seas label had nothing to do with the company. hmmm..... "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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PatrickS77 said: I mean... I don't blame him... if I would be in L.A. with my family and would have to hop on a plane for a 11 to 12 hour flight to testify in a trial, which I'll probably loose and all it needs is to ask my dr. friend to give me a attest, so I don't have to go, I would do it too!
But for all the fans to go crazy now and wishing him well and proclaiming that they won't be able to sleep without thinking that there might be a reason for him being "sick" is ridiculous! And even more ridiculous if some state that on the board! But whatever.. they can't keep me out! It is sick. Foxy just warned me about the "MJJC police" patrolling, lol. | |
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bboy87 said: http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story.asp?Article=235037&Sn=BNEW&IssueID=31243
Jackson sued over Bahrain deal Jackson's lawyers said he would seek permission to testify by video link from the US. Jackson's US spokesman Ramon Bain could not be reached for comment yesterday. Neither could 2 Seas chief executive officer Guy Holmes, the former chairman of the London-based independent record label Gut Records. He was expected to oversee the production of the album but earlier told the BBC the deal had never been formalised with Jackson. When the GDN attempted to contact Mr Holmes, it emerged Gut Records had gone into administration several months ago and its assets had been bought by Phoenix Music International. However, officials said the 2 Seas label had nothing to do with the company. hmmm..... And this is what Guy said in April: "Michael’s an extraordinarily intelligent man, but sadly his moral health is far worse than one could imagine. He ran off and reneged on his contract and now there’s a court case." | |
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story.asp?Article=235037&Sn=BNEW&IssueID=31243
Jackson sued over Bahrain deal Jackson's lawyers said he would seek permission to testify by video link from the US. Jackson's US spokesman Ramon Bain could not be reached for comment yesterday. Neither could 2 Seas chief executive officer Guy Holmes, the former chairman of the London-based independent record label Gut Records. He was expected to oversee the production of the album but earlier told the BBC the deal had never been formalised with Jackson. When the GDN attempted to contact Mr Holmes, it emerged Gut Records had gone into administration several months ago and its assets had been bought by Phoenix Music International. However, officials said the 2 Seas label had nothing to do with the company. hmmm..... And this is what Guy said in April: "Michael’s an extraordinarily intelligent man, but sadly his moral health is far worse than one could imagine. He ran off and reneged on his contract and now there’s a court case." something's not making sense.....ALOT of things "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: And this is what Guy said in April: "Michael’s an extraordinarily intelligent man, but sadly his moral health is far worse than one could imagine. He ran off and reneged on his contract and now there’s a court case." something's not making sense.....ALOT of things What did the Temptations say? "It's a ball of confusion!" | |
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: something's not making sense.....ALOT of things What did the Temptations say? "It's a ball of confusion!" I know you wanna leave me....but I refuse to let you go, Lillian! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: What did the Temptations say? "It's a ball of confusion!" I know you wanna leave me....but I refuse to let you go, Lillian!  | |
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He says he still considers Michael a dear friend and this isn't personal
my question is, since he recorded I Have This Dream or From The Bottom Of My Heart for 2 Seas, why doesn't the Prince own the masters? Didn't he learn anything from Mr. Nelson?! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Timmy84 said: It is sick. Foxy just warned me about the "MJJC police" patrolling, lol.
LOL yes... it is truely sick! Couple that with some pompous ass (MGT: "Now stay the hell out of my forum") on a power trip and you get MJJC! LOL! Whatever! They can't keep me down! And this is what Guy said in April:
"Michael’s an extraordinarily intelligent man, but sadly his moral health is far worse than one could imagine. He ran off and reneged on his contract and now there’s a court case." Wow... and I guess Mr. Holmes also joined the ranks of the evil people according to MJJC! | |
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bboy87 said: He says he still considers Michael a dear friend and this isn't personal
my question is, since he recorded I Have This Dream or From The Bottom Of My Heart for 2 Seas, why doesn't the Prince own the masters? Didn't he learn anything from Mr. Nelson?! I see. I thought his comments were contradictory... I guess they're not. Kinda funny though. I don't think Guy's evil if he has thoughts like that. | |
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PatrickS77 said: Timmy84 said: It is sick. Foxy just warned me about the "MJJC police" patrolling, lol.
LOL yes... it is truely sick! Couple that with some pompous ass (MGT: "Now stay the hell out of my forum") on a power trip and you get MJJC! LOL! Whatever! They can't keep me down! And this is what Guy said in April:
"Michael’s an extraordinarily intelligent man, but sadly his moral health is far worse than one could imagine. He ran off and reneged on his contract and now there’s a court case." Wow... and I guess Mr. Holmes also joined the ranks of the evil people according to MJJC! You're not kidding with the power trip. Remind me of one of the Five Heartbeats scenes: "Jimmy, man, he be on some muthafuckin' power trip and shit talking about replacing people. I just wanted to show that muthafucka what TIME it was!" [Edited 11/18/08 15:30pm] | |
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: He says he still considers Michael a dear friend and this isn't personal
my question is, since he recorded I Have This Dream or From The Bottom Of My Heart for 2 Seas, why doesn't the Prince own the masters? Didn't he learn anything from Mr. Nelson?! I see. I thought his comments were contradictory... I guess they're not. Kinda funny though. I don't think Guy's evil if he has thoughts like that. nah, the Prince said that. I do think Guy's statements contradict each other Michael wanted to get away from it all and the Prince wanted get into the Entertainment business and saw working with Michael as a good opportunity "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: I see. I thought his comments were contradictory... I guess they're not. Kinda funny though. I don't think Guy's evil if he has thoughts like that. nah, the Prince said that. I do think Guy's statements contradict each other Michael wanted to get away from it all and the Prince wanted get into the Entertainment business and saw working with Michael as a good opportunity OH! Man... nevermind. But yeah that's how I look at it, this affected the Prince because he knew working with Mike would get him into show business. This is probably why he sued. | |
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: nah, the Prince said that. I do think Guy's statements contradict each other Michael wanted to get away from it all and the Prince wanted get into the Entertainment business and saw working with Michael as a good opportunity OH! Man... nevermind. But yeah that's how I look at it, this affected the Prince because he knew working with Mike would get him into show business. This is probably why he sued.I dont think gettin into show biz was the main motivation for the suit. The guy is pissed and feel used basically this MJ character comes over uses all the hospitality he has to offer and leaves and then refuses to retrn phone calls. I think he also expected to be paid his expenses he incurred not related to his staying there but in terms of money he gave and money used by MJ for hiring various ppl. |
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Yeah I just saw some articles from back then when all parties including MJ was initially excited over this deal. Now three years later it's completely different. Like I said, it's a mess. | |
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Timmy84 said: Yeah I just saw some articles from back then when all parties including MJ was initially excited over this deal. Now three years later it's completely different. Like I said, it's a mess.
I think we all know who to blame for this issue.... 
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Michael is a bitch | |
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Remember the photo of him on the pier with two other arab guys, wtf was that? | |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: Yeah I just saw some articles from back then when all parties including MJ was initially excited over this deal. Now three years later it's completely different. Like I said, it's a mess.
I think we all know who to blame for this issue....
That greasy, shiny mothafucka, my God! | |
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lilgish said: Remember the photo of him on the pier with two other arab guys, wtf was that?
You mean, this:  | |
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