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Reply #120 posted 11/17/08 4:43pm

Timmy84

Evvy said:

Timmy84 said:



There's a gang-like animosity in that forum. I mean people jumping on sides attacking each other, lol.


when i first joined- i was banned. then i came back as someone else and joined the staff as a mod- they had no clue. that whole clique there got busted up cause all the senior staff folk went their seperate ways. Trish claimed she was gettin death threats and she gave the site over to a few senior staff that remained.

we had some crazy times on pal talk though


Right. And speaking of senior staff, I hardly hear from Chichi anymore. He posted all the way through August and then he decided to take a break I guess. That board isn't even fun anymore to be honest. I overstayed its "holier-than-thou" welcome.
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Reply #121 posted 11/17/08 5:12pm

kibbles

Evvy said:

Timmy84 said:



There's a gang-like animosity in that forum. I mean people jumping on sides attacking each other, lol.


when i first joined- i was banned. then i came back as someone else and joined the staff as a mod- they had no clue. that whole clique there got busted up cause all the senior staff folk went their seperate ways. Trish claimed she was gettin death threats and she gave the site over to a few senior staff that remained.

we had some crazy times on pal talk though


i was banned, too, back when it was under the other name. i didn't jump on anyone. i have to admit i was sarcastic with a poster (surprise!), because what s/he was saying was just plain dumb as dumb can be, but it was nowhere near what goes on on this board.

i didn't like the way you couldn't discuss certain things, either. i understand not wanting to dwell on the negative or engage in idle speculation, but sometimes you could not discuss things realistically without touching on a 'forbidden' topic. i wonder if what i've posted here would have been deleted? probably.

i was just lurking there. i see some of the same peeps are there.
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Reply #122 posted 11/17/08 5:15pm

Timmy84

kibbles said:

Evvy said:



when i first joined- i was banned. then i came back as someone else and joined the staff as a mod- they had no clue. that whole clique there got busted up cause all the senior staff folk went their seperate ways. Trish claimed she was gettin death threats and she gave the site over to a few senior staff that remained.

we had some crazy times on pal talk though


i was banned, too, back when it was under the other name. i didn't jump on anyone. i have to admit i was sarcastic with a poster (surprise!), because what s/he was saying was just plain dumb as dumb can be, but it was nowhere near what goes on on this board.

i didn't like the way you couldn't discuss certain things, either. i understand not wanting to dwell on the negative or engage in idle speculation, but sometimes you could not discuss things realistically without touching on a 'forbidden' topic. i wonder if what i've posted here would have been deleted? probably.

i was just lurking there. i see some of the same peeps are there.


They probably have. It hasn't really changed a bit actually. neutral lol
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Reply #123 posted 11/17/08 5:43pm

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Timmy84 said:

kibbles said:



i was banned, too, back when it was under the other name. i didn't jump on anyone. i have to admit i was sarcastic with a poster (surprise!), because what s/he was saying was just plain dumb as dumb can be, but it was nowhere near what goes on on this board.

i didn't like the way you couldn't discuss certain things, either. i understand not wanting to dwell on the negative or engage in idle speculation, but sometimes you could not discuss things realistically without touching on a 'forbidden' topic. i wonder if what i've posted here would have been deleted? probably.

i was just lurking there. i see some of the same peeps are there.


They probably have. It hasn't really changed a bit actually. neutral lol

That's why KOPD is better cool lol
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #124 posted 11/17/08 6:08pm

Timmy84

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:



They probably have. It hasn't really changed a bit actually. neutral lol

That's why KOPD is better cool lol


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Reply #125 posted 11/17/08 6:43pm

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Timmy84 said:

Sheikh seeks millions from Michael Jackson



http://www.cnn.com/2008/W....court.ap/

LONDON, England (AP) -- The son of an Arab monarch is taking the King of Pop to court over an album and an autobiography Michael Jackson was allegedly paid for but never produced.

Sheikh Abdulla bin Hamad Al Khalifa is seeking $7 million from the embattled singer at London's Royal Courts of Justice.

Lawyers for Al Khalifa say the money was intended as an advance on a joint recording project. Jackson, however, claims the cash was a gift.

David Sherborne, representing Al Khalifa, says the case would mainly hinge on the nature of Jackson's friendship with the sheikh.

Jackson was not in court as the trial opened Monday.

Jackson's finances fell apart following his arrest in 2003 on charges that he molested a 13-year old boy at Neverland. He moved to Bahrain after being acquitted.

I don't know what's scarier, an Arab Prince suing MJ, or MJ's picture above... lol
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Reply #126 posted 11/17/08 6:47pm

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Jackson may or may not be at fault here. The nanny and the manager had so much control over his day to day operation back then fans are missing the crucial piece of them interfering in his business and of the disappearing bodyguard who hated them both who then supposedly started telling tales to Roger Friedman. Therefore, it is entirely possible Jackson may have been fooled there under duress and business deals made in his names without his knowledge. They have both been fired. Friedman has not been entirely wrong.
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Reply #127 posted 11/17/08 7:07pm

Evvy

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Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:


That's why KOPD is better cool lol


nod


never posted there- only been there maybe twice hmmm
LOVE HARD.
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Reply #128 posted 11/17/08 7:48pm

shesoffthewall

monk76 said:

Breaking News: CNN just aired that Uri Geller is helping Michael and giving him the 7 millions plus 5 millions more for a project Uri is working with Michael.
Turn on CNN.



What a mess.
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Reply #129 posted 11/17/08 7:51pm

shesoffthewall

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That says it all falloff
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Reply #130 posted 11/18/08 4:55am

Evvy

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folk need to quit enabling him with his drugs and money- let him learn how to get back up and stand on his own two feet. he got the same disease as Jermaine- handoutitis which does not go well with negroiditits
LOVE HARD.
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Reply #131 posted 11/18/08 5:00am

SoulAlive

Evvy said:

folk need to quit enabling him with his drugs and money- let him learn how to get back up and stand on his own two feet. he got the same disease as Jermaine- handoutitis which does not go well with negroiditits


I agree.People need to stop giving him all these loans and "gifts".If Michael needs money,he needs to get out there and WORK FOR IT,like most of us do.He's become spoiled and lazy,always expecting his wealthy buddies to help him out.If he would get his ass out there and tour,he wouldn't be having financial troubles to begin with.
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Reply #132 posted 11/18/08 6:22am

dag

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Timmy84 said:

monk76 said:

Breaking News: CNN just aired that Uri Geller is helping Michael and giving him the 7 millions plus 5 millions more for a project Uri is working with Michael.
Turn on CNN.


disbelief

omfg Michael PLEASE NO Uri Geller again. I can´t stand him!

Yo, I just have an idea, let's joke a little about this:

Michael's new album would be called "Broke My Ass".

Song titles include:

"Jermaine (Your Ass Is Grass)"
"Money (Is A Gift But I'm Not Singing For Your Ass)"
"Billie Jean Is Not My Lover (She's Just a Psychopath)"
"I Shouldn't Have Listened to My Brother"
"Watch Out for the Grease"
"The Beatles Deal Wasn't My Idea, It Was My Manager's"
"Bad (With Deals)"
"Neverland Is In Me But I'm Not Peter Pan, Fool"
"Rock With You (For $7 Million)"
"Akon Don't Be Holding My Hand"
"Chris Brown's Not Me"

lol

Produced by T-Prone for Grown-Ass-Man Records. lol
lol lol lol

Anyway, whatever this is about, I hope Mike sorts it out. Damn it.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #133 posted 11/18/08 7:35am

NaughtyKitty

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Michael Jackson may be too ill to travel
By RAPHAEL G. SATTER – 29 minutes ago

LONDON (AP) — Michael Jackson may be too ill to travel to London to testify in a suit which claims he owes an Arab sheikh $7 million, the pop star's lawyer said Tuesday.

Sheikh Abdulla bin Hamad Al Khalifa, the second son of the king of Bahrain, claims that Jackson reneged on a contract for an album, a candid autobiography and a stage play, after accepting millions from the sheikh.

Al Khalifa was in court Tuesday for the second day of arguments and testimony, but Jackon is seeking to give his testimony by a video link from the United States.

"It would be unwise for him to travel, given what's he's got now," lawyer Robert Englehart said, but declined to elaborate "for the obvious reasons."

Al Khalifa's lawyer, Bankim Thanki, called the medical evidence presented by Jackson's legal team "very unsatisfactory."

"It's not the first time a sick note has been presented by Mr. Jackson," Thanki said.

Details of Jackson's purported malady wasn't disclosed, but Thanki suggested that the issue could be resolved by applying a dressing "if the diagnosis is positive."

Thanki did not elaborate after the court took a short break for lunch.

The case is being tried in London by mutual agreement, Al Khalifa's representatives have said. It is due to wrap up by the end of the month.

Al Khalifa felt betrayed when the pop star pulled out of the deal, Thanki said.

After Jackson left Bahrain, never to return, his publicist later called Al Khalifa to say Jackson no longer wanted any part of the contract. Thanki said.

"It's fair to say my client felt a considerable sense of betrayal by someone he thought was a close friend," Thanki said, adding that the sheikh, an amateur songwriter, also felt "a sense of professional failure."

Thanki said Al Khalifa and Jackson were planning to establish a joint venture to put out a new Michael Jackson album, an autobiography, and a stage play.

They hoped to make millions from the project — Jackson's autobiography, intended to be "a frank and personal account" of the singer's life, was alone expected to rack up $24 million, Thanki said. In the meanwhile, Al Khalifa gave Jackson millions of dollars to help shore up his finances and subsidize Jackson's lifestyle in the small Gulf state.

Thanki said Al Khalifa considered the money an advance on the profits Jackson would reap from their pop music project, but Englehart said the money was a gift.

"Sheikh Abdulla, fortunately for himself, had the resources to be so generous," Englehart said.

Englehart argued that Jackson wasn't bound by the deal he struck because the contract was technically signed on behalf of 2 Seas Records, a venture which never got off the ground.

"This (contract) was one brick in the building that was never built," Englehart said.

http://www.google.com/hos...wD94HCJR01

He's too ill to travel huh? Maybe he caught Janet's bad case of Vertigo razz
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Reply #134 posted 11/18/08 7:58am

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Christ in a handbasket! When does it end? disbelief
Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off
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Reply #135 posted 11/18/08 8:10am

NaughtyKitty

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JackieBlue said:

Christ in a handbasket! When does it end? disbelief

When Michael grows up and stops doing stupid crap like this and learns how to take responsibility for his actions. Will that ever happen? I can only hope.

Jacko Won’t Come to London

Tuesday, November 18, 2008

By Roger Friedman

Michael Jackson won’t come to London despite being sued by his former pal Prince Abdullah of Bahrain.

Yesterday we were the first to report, and exclusively, the details of Abdullah’s claim for return of the $7 million he advanced Jackson in exchange for two albums, a musical, and an autobiography.

The case proceeded yesterday at 2:30 p.m. in London’s High Court and continues today. The prince’s attorney will present evidence to the court, like the contract Jackson signed with him.

So far, Jackson is refusing to come to London to testify in the trial. His lawyer, Mr. Thanki, of the Fountain Court firm, is telling the court that Michael must provide his testimony by video link because he’s too ill to travel.

If this like his famous “spider bite” from his 2003 trial in Santa Maria for another breach of contract, Justice Sweeney of the Queens Bench should be suspicious. A very inside source insisted to this column years ago that the “spider bite” was caused by other activities and that no insects were involved. And of course, Michael famously tried to get out of his child molestation trial a couple of times by going to the hospital — once in his pajamas.


Of course, Justice Sweeney should be suspect if Jackson’s “doctor’s note” comes from one Dr. Tohme Tohme. That’s Michael’s publicist, not his physician.

And still: other news sources are still reporting that Jackson turned over the deed to his Neverland ranch, or sold it out right last week. This isn’t true. Jackson formed a partnership with the note holder on Neverland to protect it from a loss in the trial with the prince.

There may be repercussions from that move. I’m told that Prince Abdullah knows Thomas J. Barrack, Jr., the founder of Colony Capital LLC, pretty well, and won’t be happy if he’s sheltering Jackson’s only asset from him.

Prince Abdullah, friends say, is not being vindictive. But after hosting Jackson in Bahrain, subsidizing the singer when no one would speak to him after his 2005 child molestation trial acquittal, and then handing him millions in cash, he has ever reason to feel betrayed.

Testimony continues today in Room 73 at 10:30 a.m.

http://www.foxnews.com/st...,00.html#1
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Reply #136 posted 11/18/08 9:10am

Timmy84

NaughtyKitty said:

Michael Jackson may be too ill to travel
By RAPHAEL G. SATTER – 29 minutes ago

LONDON (AP) — Michael Jackson may be too ill to travel to London to testify in a suit which claims he owes an Arab sheikh $7 million, the pop star's lawyer said Tuesday.

Sheikh Abdulla bin Hamad Al Khalifa, the second son of the king of Bahrain, claims that Jackson reneged on a contract for an album, a candid autobiography and a stage play, after accepting millions from the sheikh.

Al Khalifa was in court Tuesday for the second day of arguments and testimony, but Jackon is seeking to give his testimony by a video link from the United States.

"It would be unwise for him to travel, given what's he's got now," lawyer Robert Englehart said, but declined to elaborate "for the obvious reasons."

Al Khalifa's lawyer, Bankim Thanki, called the medical evidence presented by Jackson's legal team "very unsatisfactory."

"It's not the first time a sick note has been presented by Mr. Jackson," Thanki said.

Details of Jackson's purported malady wasn't disclosed, but Thanki suggested that the issue could be resolved by applying a dressing "if the diagnosis is positive."

Thanki did not elaborate after the court took a short break for lunch.

The case is being tried in London by mutual agreement, Al Khalifa's representatives have said. It is due to wrap up by the end of the month.

Al Khalifa felt betrayed when the pop star pulled out of the deal, Thanki said.

After Jackson left Bahrain, never to return, his publicist later called Al Khalifa to say Jackson no longer wanted any part of the contract. Thanki said.

"It's fair to say my client felt a considerable sense of betrayal by someone he thought was a close friend," Thanki said, adding that the sheikh, an amateur songwriter, also felt "a sense of professional failure."

Thanki said Al Khalifa and Jackson were planning to establish a joint venture to put out a new Michael Jackson album, an autobiography, and a stage play.

They hoped to make millions from the project — Jackson's autobiography, intended to be "a frank and personal account" of the singer's life, was alone expected to rack up $24 million, Thanki said. In the meanwhile, Al Khalifa gave Jackson millions of dollars to help shore up his finances and subsidize Jackson's lifestyle in the small Gulf state.

Thanki said Al Khalifa considered the money an advance on the profits Jackson would reap from their pop music project, but Englehart said the money was a gift.

"Sheikh Abdulla, fortunately for himself, had the resources to be so generous," Englehart said.

Englehart argued that Jackson wasn't bound by the deal he struck because the contract was technically signed on behalf of 2 Seas Records, a venture which never got off the ground.

"This (contract) was one brick in the building that was never built," Englehart said.

http://www.google.com/hos...wD94HCJR01

He's too ill to travel huh? Maybe he caught Janet's bad case of Vertigo razz
[Edited 11/18/08 7:35am]


What? Michael, tell me you're kidding... What? confused
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Reply #137 posted 11/18/08 9:29am

Empress

JackieBlue said:

Christ in a handbasket! When does it end? disbelief


I don't think it will ever end because too many people in this world support MJ and all the crazy things he does or doesn't do. IMO - he hasn't done a damn thing that's worthy in 10 years.

Now, he's too sick to travel. Yeah right? What kind of bullshit is that? Same old shit with MJ. The drama king of our time. neutral
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Reply #138 posted 11/18/08 9:32am

Timmy84

Empress said:

JackieBlue said:

Christ in a handbasket! When does it end? disbelief


I don't think it will ever end because too many people in this world support MJ and all the crazy things he does or doesn't do. IMO - he hasn't done a damn thing that's worthy in 10 years.

Now, he's too sick to travel. Yeah right? What kind of bullshit is that? Same old shit with MJ. The drama king of our time. neutral


APPARENTLY, according to MJ's doctor, his SUV had a little accident while in Los Angeles, Michael wasn't in the car when this occurred, neither were his kids. He and his son Blanket had "medical checkup" (MJ could be seen walking out of some place wearing that trademark surgical mask) and walked out. Michael feels traveling would be too much for his health so he figured as he done many times to do a video link. The judge has adjourned the case until Thursday to see what to do about Michael's "appearance" be it physical or digital.
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Reply #139 posted 11/18/08 9:40am

Empress

Timmy84 said:

Empress said:



I don't think it will ever end because too many people in this world support MJ and all the crazy things he does or doesn't do. IMO - he hasn't done a damn thing that's worthy in 10 years.

Now, he's too sick to travel. Yeah right? What kind of bullshit is that? Same old shit with MJ. The drama king of our time. neutral


APPARENTLY, according to MJ's doctor, his SUV had a little accident while in Los Angeles, Michael wasn't in the car when this occurred, neither were his kids. He and his son Blanket had "medical checkup" (MJ could be seen walking out of some place wearing that trademark surgical mask) and walked out. Michael feels traveling would be too much for his health so he figured as he done many times to do a video link. The judge has adjourned the case until Thursday to see what to do about Michael's "appearance" be it physical or digital.


Like I said, the drama king of our time. rolleyes
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Reply #140 posted 11/18/08 10:09am

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Jackson 'too sick' for court case

Sheikh Abdulla claims Mr Jackson reneged on an agreement
Michael Jackson could be made to fly to the High Court in London to testify in a breach of contract case, despite his doctor saying he is unfit to travel.


The court heard the singer was waiting on test results about an unspecified condition and that "even in a best-case scenario it would be unwise to travel".

However, lawyers for Sheikh Abdulla Bin Hamad Bin Isa Al-Khalifa said he could be "bandaged up" and appear in person.

The King of Bahrain's second son claims Mr Jackson reneged on a music deal.

He is suing the performer for £4.7 million, claiming that under the agreement, an album, stage play and candid autobiography were to be produced.

'Rightly sceptical'

Mr Jackson's lawyer, Robert Englehart, has asked that his client can give his testimony by video link from the US.

Mr Englehart showed the judge, Mr Justice Sweeney, a letter from Mr Jackson's doctor which was not read out in open court.

The judge told the court the letter suggested that Mr Jackson "may or may not have a condition" and that the doctor was waiting for test results.

The doctor has advised that Jackson would not be fit to travel regardless of the results.


Sheikh Abdulla is due to give evidence on Thursday

But medical experts consulted by the defence team said that pathology results relating to such a condition would usually take 48 hours, Sheikh Abdulla's lawyer Bankim Thanki said.

As Mr Jackson had seen the doctor ten days ago, Sheikh Abdulla was "rightly sceptical" about the doctor's letter, Mr Thanki added.

The defence team's experts also said that, even if test results were positive, it would be possible for Mr Jackson to fly to London with "suitable dressings".

Mr Justice Sweeney has adjourned the case until Thursday when he will decide whether Jackson must give his evidence in person or by video link.

Also on Thursday, Sheikh Abdullah is scheduled to give evidence against Mr Jackson.

And the singer's former nanny Grace Rwaramba, who was due to fly into London from the US on Tuesday night, will appear for Mr Jackson.

If Mr Jackson is allowed to give his evidence by video link, it will probably take place at 1400 GMT on Monday and Tuesday, the judge added.

Mutual agreement

Mr Thanki said Sheikh Abdulla felt "a strong sense of personal betrayal" after forming "a close personal relationship" with the singer.

The sheikh invited Mr Jackson, his children and personal staff to stay in Bahrain in June 2005 following his acquittal on child abuse charges in the US.

The King of Bahrain's son said he had planned to revive the singer's career with songs he had written himself.

These included a charity single in aid of the victims of Hurricane Katrina that was recorded but never released.

Mr Jackson contests Sheikh Abdulla's claims, saying there was no valid agreement and that the case was based on "mistake, misrepresentation and undue influence".

He has said no project was ever finalised and that any payments made to him were "gifts".

The case, which is being tried in London by mutual agreement, is due to wrap up by the end of the month.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/h...735729.stm
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Reply #141 posted 11/18/08 10:51am

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suge knight is in vegas maybe he could hook up MJ with a record deal
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Reply #142 posted 11/18/08 10:53am

Timmy84

asg said:

suge knight is in vegas maybe he could hook up MJ with a record deal


You're kidding, right? lol

Speaking of, Suge is up on drug charges.
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Reply #143 posted 11/18/08 11:34am

kibbles

SoulAlive said:

Evvy said:

folk need to quit enabling him with his drugs and money- let him learn how to get back up and stand on his own two feet. he got the same disease as Jermaine- handoutitis which does not go well with negroiditits


I agree.People need to stop giving him all these loans and "gifts".If Michael needs money,he needs to get out there and WORK FOR IT,like most of us do.He's become spoiled and lazy,always expecting his wealthy buddies to help him out.If he would get his ass out there and tour,he wouldn't be having financial troubles to begin with.


yeah, you keep saying that, and i keep thinking, 'who in their right mind would buy a tix to an mj concert?'

get real. this guy is not selling any tix. as i said before, he may not 'need' to tour - as long as there are dupes like this sheikh out there or he can mortgage what assets he has. but now i'm thinking the real reason he won't is because who would he sell his tix to? would you buy tix to an mj concert now? if so, may i interest you in a lovely bridge over the hudson? lol
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Reply #144 posted 11/18/08 11:38am

Trickology

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He owes everyone money at this point. He owes me at least $10...I bought "Invincible".


This whole quote is more true than anything spoken
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Reply #145 posted 11/18/08 11:40am

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kibbles said:

SoulAlive said:



I agree.People need to stop giving him all these loans and "gifts".If Michael needs money,he needs to get out there and WORK FOR IT,like most of us do.He's become spoiled and lazy,always expecting his wealthy buddies to help him out.If he would get his ass out there and tour,he wouldn't be having financial troubles to begin with.


yeah, you keep saying that, and i keep thinking, 'who in their right mind would buy a tix to an mj concert?'

get real. this guy is not selling any tix. as i said before, he may not 'need' to tour - as long as there are dupes like this sheikh out there or he can mortgage what assets he has. but now i'm thinking the real reason he won't is because who would he sell his tix to? would you buy tix to an mj concert now? if so, may i interest you in a lovely bridge over the hudson? lol


He could easily sell Tix. problem is will he show up to perform?
He might bailout and not show up and then u have another series of lawsuits.
The problems never end for him
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Reply #146 posted 11/18/08 11:41am

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kibbles said:

SoulAlive said:



I agree.People need to stop giving him all these loans and "gifts".If Michael needs money,he needs to get out there and WORK FOR IT,like most of us do.He's become spoiled and lazy,always expecting his wealthy buddies to help him out.If he would get his ass out there and tour,he wouldn't be having financial troubles to begin with.


yeah, you keep saying that, and i keep thinking, 'who in their right mind would buy a tix to an mj concert?'

get real. this guy is not selling any tix. as i said before, he may not 'need' to tour - as long as there are dupes like this sheikh out there or he can mortgage what assets he has. but now i'm thinking the real reason he won't is because who would he sell his tix to? would you buy tix to an mj concert now? if so, may i interest you in a lovely bridge over the hudson? lol

Demand for MJ tickets would be huge if he ever decided to tour again. It doesn't matter that he's shit now. Tickets would still sell on name value alone.
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Reply #147 posted 11/18/08 11:51am

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I’ve thought about this a bit and I don’t know if I would go see MJ in concert again.

First of all the prices would more than likely be high and after the last few times, I don't know if I want to pay through the nose. I would really want him to do some live performances first on award shows or something so I can see if he’s up to standard. If not, I’m keeping my $300.
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Reply #148 posted 11/18/08 12:05pm

kibbles

midnightmover said:

kibbles said:



yeah, you keep saying that, and i keep thinking, 'who in their right mind would buy a tix to an mj concert?'

get real. this guy is not selling any tix. as i said before, he may not 'need' to tour - as long as there are dupes like this sheikh out there or he can mortgage what assets he has. but now i'm thinking the real reason he won't is because who would he sell his tix to? would you buy tix to an mj concert now? if so, may i interest you in a lovely bridge over the hudson? lol

Demand for MJ tickets would be huge if he ever decided to tour again. It doesn't matter that he's shit now. Tickets would still sell on name value alone.


but that statement alone is why i don't think it will happen. people are going to see madonna (though i don't like her and wouldn't pay to see her) b/c there is something to see. the name value you speak of is the equivalent of a trainwreck. would you pay money to see a trainwreck? like jackie said, he would probably charge as much as madonna, and you'd be sitting there wondering if he would show up, and if does, if he's be able to perform. you've indicated yourself that his heart isn't in it. i think it does matter that he's sh** now. in these economic times, people are not going to shell out money for sh**...they shouldn't, anyway.
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midnightmover said:


Demand for MJ tickets would be huge if he ever decided to tour again. It doesn't matter that he's shit now. Tickets would still sell on name value alone.


but that statement alone is why i don't think it will happen. people are going to see madonna (though i don't like her and wouldn't pay to see her) b/c there is something to see. the name value you speak of is the equivalent of a trainwreck. would you pay money to see a trainwreck? like jackie said, he would probably charge as much as madonna, and you'd be sitting there wondering if he would show up, and if does, if he's be able to perform. you've indicated yourself that his heart isn't in it. i think it does matter that he's sh** now. in these economic times, people are not going to shell out money for sh**...they shouldn't, anyway.

You have a higher opinion of the public than I do. Firstly, many of them don't know he's shit now (just listen to SoulAlive advising Michael to do acoustic concerts for instance). Secondly, with modern day technology it's very easy to hide shitness. I saw some clips of The Spice Girls show and they were miming their crappy songs and dancing badly, but the stage set was impressive, the lights were great and for the audience it was just a trip down memory lane anyway. They didn't care. People are mostly going just to have a night out, say they were there, and to sing along with their old favourites. The sense of occasion is usually enough and with MJ you'd certainly get that. And don't forget performers of MJ's age are all benefitting from the nostalgia of their old fans. Even a lame performer like George Michael is making more money on tour now than he ever did in his heyday.
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