He wasn't even told by Guy that it was fake tho, lol. Least that's what Guy said.

Yeah dont know why Guy didnt tell him either--unless he really wanted to work with Mike as well or maybe he just assumed that Michael knew already???

Anywhoo, I still wanna know why Michael was even talkin to the Prince on the phone during the trial. As if he didnt have enuff to deal with back then--he's got this Prince tryin to woo him into business. Mike shoulda cut off contact with him then.

NaughtyKitty said:

I agree. I also think Michael was in such a fucked-up state that he didn't even think about what it was he was agreeing to. The way Guy told it, Michael bounced before some shit went down. But Guy's a pussy for not telling him, lol. I mean he WAS his "manager" so to speak!

Michael was probably told by Jermaine to GO to Bahrain, lol.

Yeah...I dunno. Ok so now I dont think Michael was as wrong for this as I initially thought...but this still doesnt make any sense. So this company didnt exist at the time Michael signed that draft of the agreement... But Mike did sign something...but he didnt know or realize that the agreement was a draft or that the company didnt even exist yet? So then what exactly was his intent for signing is what I wanna know. Guy said Mike wasnt even interested in the company and was more focused on his own projects at the time...so why sign ANYTHING???

Even if the agreement was fake and the company didnt exist and Mike wasnt even interested in the company, why sign anything at all? The Prince expected Mike to record music, do an autobiog. and a stage show...if Mike didnt realize all of this at the time he signed then why the heck did he agree to sign??

Now I'm not giving the Shiekh here a pass either, I'm just tryin to make sense of all this. All Mike had to do was tell the Shiek NO and not sign a dang thing.

And then there's also this:



This whole thing is confusing and hopefully Michael's testimony will help make everything more clearer.

But I still retain my opinion that the only reason why the Sheikh is suing Michael is because he felt betrayed by him. Even if the company didnt exist and Mike signed a shady, non-legally binding agreement, the Sheikh was led to believe that Michael would be a part of his company and a business partner. Surely the Sheikh isnt delusional and imagined the whole thing---unless that too can be proved in court.
[Edited 11/21/08 16:46pm]

NaughtyKitty said:

It might. His boy John Barnes wasn't looking too good in the stand either. When MJ's attorney said that he wasn't tied to "2Seas", dude was like "I don't discuss legal terms" or some shit.

Timmy84 said:

Yeah I saw that

as far as i can remember, that it was a common knowledge to MJ and to everyone that the structure of the company was in the inital stages , they even created and launched a webiste for te company, its not like the company wasn't exist, it was in the inital stages.....

Read this

Yeah it was in initial stages but apparently it fell apart when he left. And it's funny that it was in the beginning stages yet apparently MICHAEL didn't even know about this label if we believe Guy's words.

VinnyM27 said:

Timmy84 said:

BUt how you interpret the purpose of the promo pic above ? the three of them together.....LOL

seeingvoices12 said:

A picture.

Timmy84 said:

LOL..for a porn movie maybe

seeingvoices12 said:

http://profile.myspace.co...d=48779397

seeingvoices12 said:

This is what I've always thought too...that 2 Seas was in its initial stages. No it didnt exist at the time that Mike signed that agreement, but the deal was supposed to go thru and 2 Seas would have become a full blown, functioning company soon. But Michael left before anything could take shape. So its not as cut and dry like alot of MJ fans are making it. I dont think Michael would be flying across the Atlantic to defend himself if this was a total complete sham--there's more to it. I am looking forward to hearing Michael's testimony tomorrow.
[Edited 11/23/08 11:42am]

NaughtyKitty said:

Yeah Michael's testimony should be quite interesting. After being real upset Friday, again I'm starting to think this is a trust issue and maybe the Prince was a snake but we'll find out soon enough. I never heard of the agreement being presented in court either.

No testimony! According to Sky News and BBC it has been settled out of court today:

Breaking News
10:26pm UK, Sunday November 23, 2008

Michael Jackson has settled a multi-million pound dispute with an Arab Sheikh out of court.

More to follow...

http://news.sky.com/skyne...ettlement_

PatrickS77 said:

I JUST heard about it!

LMAO he never was in London... poor fans, who travelled there to see him! According to Sky News:

The pop star had been due to appear at the High Court tomorrow over allegations he owed Sheikh Abdulla bin Hamad Al Khalifa £4.75m.

A spokeswoman for Mr Khalifa said: "As Mr. Jackson was about to board his plane to London, he was advised by his legal team to postpone his travels since the parties had concluded a settlement in principle."


It's the same link as above... I guess they are just writing it up as we speak!

PatrickS77 said:

Yeah, as you said they're constantly updating.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/h...745077.stm


Jackson 'no longer coming to UK'


Michael Jackson is no longer expected to arrive in the UK to give evidence at the High Court over claims he breached a music contract with an Arab sheikh.

The BBC has learned his legal team told him to postpone the trip as the parties had made an agreement in principle.

The King of Bahrain's son, Sheikh Abdulla Bin Hamad Bin Isa Al-Khalifa, is suing Mr Jackson for £4.7m, claiming he reneged on a music contract.

Mr Jackson contests the claim, saying there was no valid agreement.

'Personal relationship'

Sheikh Abdulla says he paid all the singer's living, travel and other expenses until his departure from Bahrain in 2006, and advanced funds to retain legal and financial advisers.

Mr Jackson claims the payments were "gifts".

The Thriller star was invited with his children and entourage to Bahrain, shortly after he was acquitted of child molestation charges in California.

While there, the sheikh lavished money on him.

Sheikh Abdulla also built a recording studio, which he believed would be used to record albums using material he had helped to write.


Sheikh Abdulla and Michael Jackson formed a close friendship

However Mr Jackson apparently pulled out of the deal in May 2006 after 11 months and has not seen the sheikh since.

Now Sheikh Abdulla says he wants nothing more to do with him and is suing to get his money back.

At the start of the hearing which began last week, Mr Jackson's lawyer, Robert Englehart QC, applied for the star to give his evidence by video link from Los Angeles because of concerns about his health.

But the application was withdrawn after medical experts said Mr Jackson was fit enough to travel.

Michael Jackson avoids day in court as lawyers reach a deal with songwriting sheikh
£5m claim is settled at last minute

Patrick Foster, Media Correspondent

Michael Jackson’s planned appearance in a London courtroom to fight claims that he owes an Arab sheikh nearly £5 million was cancelled last night after the sides struck an eleventh hour deal.

Lawyers for Mr Jackson and Sheikh Abdulla bin Hamad Al Khalifa, the second son of the King of Bahrain, were locked in meetings late into the night to put the finishing touches to an agreement that allowed the singer to avoid giving evidence in London against a claim that he owed the sheikh more than $7 million.

Mr Jackson was scheduled to appear in court 73 of the High Court from 10am today, but a spokesman for the singer said: “As Mr Jackson was about to board his plane to London, he was advised by his legal team to postpone his travels since the parties had concluded a settlement in principle. Therefore he will not be attending court on Monday.”

The sheikh claimed that he helped to fund Mr Jackson’s defence against child molestation charges in California in 2005, paid for the star to live a life of luxury in Bahrain and shouldered significant fees for hiring staff and studios to record music.

It was claimed that Mr Jackson agreed to repay the money via royalties earned from the sale of songs written by the sheikh that he would perform, as well as by the sale of his autobiography and by a stage show. The court was told that the pair had a “close personal relationship”, but Mr Jackson reneged on the deal.

Robert Englehart, QC, representing Mr Jackson, applied initially for permission for the singer to give evidence via videolink from Los Angeles, claiming that he was suffering from an unspecified illness that made it difficult for him to travel. However, on Thursday they withdrew that application after medical reports showed that he was fit to fly.

Last week the court was told that Mr Jackson and the sheikh signed an agreement under which they would release music written by the sheikh under their jointly owned 2 Seas label.

One of the songs was to be He Who Makes the Sky Grey, written by the sheikh to be released as a charity single for the benefit of the victims of the 2004 Boxing Day tsunami.

Bankim Thanki, QC, for the sheikh, had told the judge, Mr Justice Sweeney, that he would hear a recording of the single. “It shows the quality of Sheikh Abdulla’s songwriting skills and that of Mr Jackson’s voice,” Mr Thanki said.

The court was told that the sheikh, who is also the Governor of the Southern Governorate of Bahrain and head of the country’s Public Commission for the Protection of Marine Resources, Environment and Wildlife, set Mr Jackson up with a recording studio at his Neverland ranch before sending him his compositions. He paid the singer $35,000 to cover bills at Neverland, before advancing $1 million at the request of one of Mr Jackson’s aides.

It was the sheikh’s claim that he made many more payments, including covering Mr Jackson’s $2.2 million legal bill after his criminal trial. Mr Jackson travelled to Bahrain as a guest of the sheikh after being acquitted of the molestation charges, but the court was told that the singer left the country in May 2006 to go to an awards ceremony and never returned.

The next month the sheikh was asked to sign a document releasing Mr Jackson from his obligations under the contract but he refused, Mr Thanki said. “My client felt a strong sense of personal betrayal because this was someone he considered a close personal friend.”

Mr Jackson said they had no agreement, that any money was a gift and the case was built upon “mistake, misrepresentation and undue influence”.

where will be get the money to pay the prince?

asg said:

From another prince.

shesoffthewall said:

asg said:

From his record sales. Unlike Prince whose catalog sales were shit in 2008.

MJ sold at least 5 million units of his catalog worldwide in 2008. Plus, his MIJAC catalog and share of Sony/ATV also bring in a ton of $$$ each year.

amit1234 said:

Prince made much more money then MJ last yr.
Like MJ most of his fans r stuck in the past.

Yeah... last year definitely... but this year? I don't think so!

asg said:

no need for the cheap shots. It's pointless

PatrickS77 said:

2008

he got paid $5mil for coachella
in recent yrs he has also been doin private shows for billianires at $2mil/show

He gets song writer royalties more then any other singer in the industry.
he still has catalog sales
despite the fact that 2008 was one of his laziest

2007
superbowl
21 shows at o2 arena with after shows all soldout
several private shows
LA shows where he charged $3121/couple
las vegas weekly shows
American express card show in sf paid $2mil
[Edited 11/24/08 2:20am]