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PrintableNaughtyKitty said: Timmy84 said: Yeah, that was just embarrassing. I mean... damn...  I wonder if Dove Lady will be there again But if this is gonna be like 2005, I can only hope that the E! channel will reprise their court trial re-enactments like they did for the 2005 trial. That show was hilarious! That would be brilliant if they could do a re-enactment of this trial as well Yeah that would be real funny if that happens. But Michael would only probably be there for one day and return to L.A.
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I really think there’s something lacking or there’s some need to prove something for people that stand out there. Especially the ones over 30. I’m not trying to be harsh especially since I knew quite a few but when I hear about some who still do it, I’m boggled. I can’t even imagine getting on board with that in 2008. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: I really think there’s something lacking or there’s some need to prove something for people that stand out there. Especially the ones over 30. I’m not trying to be harsh especially since I knew quite a few but when I hear about some who still do it, I’m boggled. I can’t even imagine getting on board with that in 2008.
Definitely. I agree. Why live your life for somebody else? Especially when that person doesnt even know that you exist? Its like these fans believe their only calling in life is to support MJ no matter what. Maybe they have no friends or family of their own to love--I dunno what it is. MJ L.O.V.E: https://www.facebook.com/...689&type=2 / YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/us...nderSilent | |
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NaughtyKitty said: JackieBlue said: I really think there’s something lacking or there’s some need to prove something for people that stand out there. Especially the ones over 30. I’m not trying to be harsh especially since I knew quite a few but when I hear about some who still do it, I’m boggled. I can’t even imagine getting on board with that in 2008.
Definitely. I agree. Why live your life for somebody else? Especially when that person doesnt even know that you exist? Its like these fans believe their only calling in life is to support MJ no matter what. Maybe they have no friends or family of their own to love--I dunno what it is. I knew a girl who was pretty and fashionable but all she wanted to do was follow MJ around. We lost touch but had mutual friends. When I heard she was still traveling to see him—-she’s now about 37 or 38—-I was surprised. I don’t think she’s had a serious boyfriend ever and she’s sabotaged any possibility of a stable career because she only took odd and end jobs to be available for... Michael.  Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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midnightmover said: seeingvoices12 said: Again don't get it twisted,I understood what evvy said, you obviously don't or you don't what to understand , every single person on the org knows your horrifying hatred for MJ,so any comment from you about MJ won't be taken SeriouslyLOL becasue we all know what you feel about MJ whether its about his music or personal life.....  You obviously don't understand much at all, and you're so horrified to find yourselves agreeing with me that you're in blatant denial. Facts are facts. The fact is you guys have all said you now see Michael as a user. You've said it yourself. He is very different from the angelic manchild he makes himself out to be and you guys are just seeing it. I've been saying that for years. Those are facts. You can't argue with your own words. I know it breaks your heart to realise that I was way ahead of you, but you're just gonna have to accept it and not try to wriggle out of it. 
P.S. Congratulations on seeing the light. GOD.....so horrified to agree with you? Why? do you think that your a dumb monster so we all horrified to not agree with you, most of comments show that your arrogance is really bewildering, but your ignorance and how to deal with people is another issue that you need to learn, please learn those simple things then we will take you seriously as a good poster, believe me if there is something that MJ did was wrong i will say it, and i won't be horrified to say it, and what light you are talking about? MJ will always be MJ to me, and no one is perfect, me criticizing what MJ did doesn't mean in any way that I will stop being a fan and gives any indication that MJ is a horrible person as a whole ...wake up and Grow up MICHAEL JACKSON
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bboy87 said: It was always going to be a strange encounter when Hollywood legend Katharine Hepburn invited Michael Jackson to dinner. From the moment the eccentric singer drew up outside her New York home in a TV rental truck, dressed in a military-style outfit, it was clear she was in for a bizarre evening.
Fellow guest SCOTT BERG, her friend and confidant, reveals in a book out today the real story of what Hepburn, who died last month at 96, called "the most peculiar night of my life." Here is his account. WHEN THE doorbell rang, the housekeeper, Norah, ran down to answer it. "Now, don't wet yourself!" Kate called out to her. Michael Jackson was wearing sunglasses and a satiny blue uniform trimmed in gold braid. On stage it would probably look dazzling. Up close it looked flimsy and gaudy. Kate held out her hand to him, apologised for not standing because of her bad foot and he leant over to kiss her on the cheek. She introduced us all, and Michael found a place on the couch, at Kate's immediate right. His body was even slighter than pictures suggested. His skin was taut and a beautiful tawny shade; his nose, with its tiny bridge, bore little resemblance to any other I had ever seen. At 25, he had the demeanour of an extremely polite 10-year-old. He spoke in a gentle voice full of sweetness and wonder. "Is it too bright in here?" Kate asked her guest. He said No. "Well, then, Michael, you really must take off your sunglasses, so that I can see your eyes. If you don't, then I'll have no idea where you're looking." He reluctantly obeyed. "I think you wear your sunglasses far too much," she continued. "It can't be very good for your eyes, and in the get-ups you wear, it's hardly as if you go anywhere unrecognised. So let us see your eyes. They're the window to your soul." After a moment of silence, I asked if I could fix Michael something to drink. Kate interjected that Michael didn't drink alcohol and asked what he wanted: "Juice, soda, fizzy water, plain water, tea, 'funny' tea?" He wanted nothing. "Are you sure?" Kate asked. "Nothing, thank you," he said sweetly, then sank back into silence. KATE had met Jackson in the summer of 1979, when she filmed On Golden Pond on Squam Lake in New Hampshire. "He fascinated me," she said. "He's an absolutely extraordinary creature. He's worked his entire life, entertaining professionally since he was three, and he's never lived a single moment - not a moment - in the real world. "He's this strange artistic creature, living in a bubble, barely touched by anything in the outside world." She had been quite stern with Michael one morning in New Hampshire when she discovered that he had not made his bed - then was stupefied to learn that he didn't know how to. "He had never made a bed in his life!" she exclaimed. "He's E.T.!" Over the next few years, Kate and Michael cultivated a friendship. She didn't really care much for his music, but she thought he was a masterful showman - "a great dancer," she said, "with a cute little backside." And that's why she invited him to dinner that evening in 1984. But just minutes after he had arrived, Kate handed me her glass to be filled with Scotch and soda and tossed me a look that suggested this was going to be a bumpy night. Also present were Kate's companion, Phyllis, her close friend Cynthia McFadden and her niece Katharine Houghton. Everybody took a turn at trying to get the conversation rolling, but the best our guest could muster was one-word answers to perfunctory questions. Cynthia, Kathy and I peeled off into our own private chat. But we could all overhear that it was rough going for Kate. I asked Michael if he liked movies, and he warmed to that subject. "Oh yes," he assured me. He said he spent most of his afternoons and nights watching videos of old movies. Katharine Hepburn was his favourite movie star. "Mine too," I said. "And which of Kate's pictures are your favourites?" He turned to me with the sweetest smile, and, with what looked like heavily made-up eyes glowing right into mine, he said: "I'm not sure." I told him my favourite was The Philadelphia Story. He said he had not heard of that one. "What about Holiday or Bringing Up Baby?" He didn't recognise those titles, either. Trying the other end of the spectrum, I asked if he had seen Long Day's Journey or The Lion In Winter. No, he didn't know those. The African Queen? "Is that the one in Africa?" he asked. Never saw it. "On Golden Pond," I said assuredly. After all, it's how they met. Never saw it. Guess Who's Coming To Dinner? Nope, never saw that one either. "Well, Michael, there's got to be some movie of Katharine Hepburn's that you've seen!" "That one with Spencer Tracy," he chimed in. "Adam's Rib?" No. Thinking sports, I say: "Pat And Mike?" No. "Woman Of The Year?" "Desk Set?" "No, the one where Spencer Tracy plays a fisherman, and he saves the little boy..." "Captains Courageous?!" Kate asked incredulously. It was the only film mentioned that she hadn't appeared in. "Yes," said Michael. "He was very strict, but he was sweet to the little boy." Kate, with a look of madness I hadn't seen since the last act of Long Day's Journey, simply held up her empty glass. Cynthia came to the rescue by inquiring about Michael's famous zoo. "Now, Michael," Kate said, "I have always like animals, but honestly, what do you do with a boa constrictor?" Excitedly, he described his huge terrarium, behind a curtain, in which Muscles lived, and how every few days he and special guests would sit down in front of the great glass window, open the curtain and watch as a small rodent was placed in the snake house. This was an evening's entertainment - watching the snake capture, constrict and consume the animal. We all sat there, speechless. Kate held up her glass and, in a choked voice, called out: "Too weak." Dinner was served. Because Michael did not eat meat, Norah had prepared a vegetarian meal, starting with bowls of cold beet soup. A plate of toasted Portuguese bread got passed around, as did a small tub of whipped butter. WHEN the butter reached Michael, he dipped his soup spoon in, then dropped a big white dollop into his soup, which he started to eat. Kate saw what was happening and apologised, saying it was her fault he had mistaken the butter for sour cream. She called for Norah to get Michael a fresh bowl of soup. Michael insisted he would eat this one - finishing the entire bowl, glob of butter and all. Kate was astonished when Michael, who ate little more than vegetables all his life, did not know that the "white broccoli" on his plate was cauliflower. Before the dishes were cleared, a little after eight, I heard Michael ask if he could speak to Kate privately. She and Michael entered the front living-room, their heads bowed in serious conversation. Every now and then we could hear Kate say, in a low but firm voice: "Absolutely not. I'm terribly sorry, Michael, but absolutely not." Within a few minutes they had rejoined us, but Michael did not sit down. He said his goodbyes and we all followed him to the front door, where a driver-bodyguard stood waiting. He ushered Michael from the door into a waiting vehicle, a television repair truck with no rear windows. They zoomed off into the night. Kate closed the door and cried: "Whiskey! Norah, get the whiskey!" Upstairs we poured our nightcaps and Cynthia asked what had happened. Kate explained that Michael had wanted a photograph of the two of them. Kate had said she would send him a picture of herself. No, Michael said, he wanted one of the two of them - and he had a photo-grapher with him, who had been sitting all night in the TV repair truck. "Absolutely not," Kate had told him. This was meant to be a private dinner among friends, not a stop on his publicity junket. It was nine o'clock. Kate downed her drink and said: "I'm exhausted. I can't recall a more peculiar night in my life and I'm going to bed." [Edited 11/19/08 22:46pm] oh fuck me goddamn. i feel so normal right now. sorry michael, you know i love you but wow... | |
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seeingvoices12 said: midnightmover said: You obviously don't understand much at all, and you're so horrified to find yourselves agreeing with me that you're in blatant denial. Facts are facts. The fact is you guys have all said you now see Michael as a user. You've said it yourself. He is very different from the angelic manchild he makes himself out to be and you guys are just seeing it. I've been saying that for years. Those are facts. You can't argue with your own words. I know it breaks your heart to realise that I was way ahead of you, but you're just gonna have to accept it and not try to wriggle out of it.
P.S. Congratulations on seeing the light. GOD.....so horrified to agree with you? Why? do you think that your a dumb monster so we all horrified to not agree with you, most of comments show that your arrogance is really bewildering, but your ignorance and how to deal with people is another issue that you need to learn, please learn those simple things then we will take you seriously as a good poster, believe me if there is something that MJ did was wrong i will say it, and i won't be horrified to say it, and what light you are talking about? MJ will always be MJ to me, and no one is perfect, me criticizing what MJ did doesn't mean in any way that I will stop being a fan and gives any indication that MJ is a horrible person as a whole ...wake up and Grow up If you read the post you initially responded to you'd see it was pointing out the FACT that Evvy had changed his/her view of Michael and was now echoing my sentiments. As for you, if you're saying you've always known he was a deceitful, lying hypocrite, then even more congratulations are in order. Your eyes are clearly not completely shut. [Edited 11/20/08 12:06pm] “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Bahraini Prince Takes on King of Pop
By PHILIP VICTOR LONDON, Nov. 20, 2008 The Bahraini prince accusing Michael Jackson of reneging on a multi-million-dollar contract took the stand in London's High Court today to be cross-examined by the King of Pop's legal team, whose client is expected to testify Monday. Sheik Abdullah bin Hamad Al Khalifa, 33, answered questions about his relationship and business dealings with Jackson, 50, on day three of the hearing, which could last up to 12 days. Meanwhile, Jackson was summoned to appear in the London High Court next week, although his lawyers had argued that he was too ill to attend the proceedings and hoped he could testify via video link from Los Angeles. But the prince's lawyers protested the claim, saying that the medical evidence was insufficient. And, in court today, Jackson's lawyer, Robert Englehart, said that Jackson was medically cleared to travel to London. Jackson is expected to take the stand Monday at 2 p.m. local time. Cameras are banned in the courts of Britain. The prince is suing Jackson to the tune of $7 million for what he alleges was Jackson's backing out of an agreement that was to have included work on an album, a screenplay and an autobiography. Jackson's lawyer repeatedly pressed the prince about the pop star's mental condition at the time of their talks, asking if he believed Jackson was "emotionally vulnerable." Bin Hamad Al Khalifa disagreed, saying that Jackson was "composed" and "with it." "Michael is very switched on," he said, also describing Jackson as a "fantastic businessman" and an intellectual. Early questioning also surrounded the prince's relationship with Jackson's brother, Jermaine. Bin Hamad Al Khalifa said that Jermaine Jackson "was interested in doing music" and that the two were "planning to do a record." Bin Hamad Al Khalifa's lawyers declined to speak to ABCNews, saying they could not comment during the hearings. The judge also made it clear that bin Hamad Al Khalifa was not permitted to speak to the media while the case is ongoing. Bin Hamad Al Khalifa's dealings with Jermaine Jackson took place between late 2004 and early 2005, according to today's testimony. The prince reportedly paid for Jermaine Jackson's travel to and from Bahrain and purchased a Rolls Royce car for him in California. These expenses tallied nearly $450,000, and the prince acknowledged today that he never expected the money to be paid back. But while the prince had hopes of going into business with Michael's older brother, the four songs he recorded with Jermaine Jackson were never released, he testified. He said that Jermaine Jackson also began to get sidetracked with other business interests. During testimony on his relationship with Michael Jackson, the prince said that he and Jackson began by speaking on the phone. When the prince became interested in bringing Michael Jackson to his record label, 2 Seas Records, Jackson made his terms clear. Recounting the conversation, the prince said, "If any brother or [Jackson] family member worked there [the record label], I'm not going to do the deal," referring to Jackson's comments. Jackson and bin Hamad Al Khalifa had what was described in court today as "very involved" conversations about a potential musical collaboration, which doesn't amount to a binding agreement, Jackson's lawyers are arguing. These conversations took place while Jackson was facing trial on child molestation charges in 2005. The prince constructed a recording studio after Jackson had "expressed interest in coming back into music," bin Hamad Al Khalifa said. Bin Hamad Al Khalifa also provided $1 million to the King of Pop through Jackson's personal assistant, Grace Rwaramba, which Jackson understood to be a gift, according to testimony. But the prince thought otherwise. "To me it was never seen as a gift," bin Hamad Al Khalifa told the High Court. "These payments were seen as helping Michael, and numerous times he told me he would pay me back." http://abcnews.go.com/Int...374&page=2 MJ L.O.V.E: https://www.facebook.com/...689&type=2 / YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/us...nderSilent | |
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Moral of the story?
The Jacksons and royals don't need to be working on musical projects together. In related news, some nuccas @ MJJC are acting the fuck up! OK, back on topic! | |
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Timmy84 said: Moral of the story?
The Jacksons and royals don't need to be working on musical projects together. In related news, some nuccas @ MJJC are acting the fuck up! OK, back on topic! And so what else is new? But yeah, this case is starting to get more uh..interesting.  @ this Prince. It will be so interesting when Mike takes the stand on Monday. Please E! channel bring back the trial re-enactments! MJ L.O.V.E: https://www.facebook.com/...689&type=2 / YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/us...nderSilent | |
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NaughtyKitty said: Timmy84 said: Moral of the story?
The Jacksons and royals don't need to be working on musical projects together. In related news, some nuccas @ MJJC are acting the fuck up! OK, back on topic! And so what else is new? But yeah, this case is starting to get more uh..interesting. @ this Prince. It will be so interesting when Mike takes the stand on Monday. Please E! channel bring back the trial re-enactments!  That stuff was straight comedy. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: I really think there’s something lacking or there’s some need to prove something for people that stand out there. Especially the ones over 30. I’m not trying to be harsh especially since I knew quite a few but when I hear about some who still do it, I’m boggled. I can’t even imagine getting on board with that in 2008.
you know JB, I WOULD post the Worf gif... but what's the point? "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Timmy84 said: NaughtyKitty said: http://www.thisislondon.c...article.do
Sheikh: I lent Jackson $1m ... and I gave his brother a Rolls Paul Cheston, Courts Correspondent 20.11.08 AN ARAB sheikh lent Michael Jackson $1million during the fallen pop superstar's child abuse trial, the High Court heard today. But Bahrainian prince Sheikh Abdullah Bin Hamad Bin Isa Al-Khalifa said Jackson thanked him for the loan in 2005 yet did not pay it back. The sheikh also gave the star's brother Jermaine a Rolls Royce and $450,000 as a gift. The prince and the popstar have since fallen out and Sheikh Abdullah is suing Jackson for allegedly breaking a $7million (£4.7million) contract. The second son of the king of Bahrain today told the court that Jackson agreed a contract to sing some of the Sheikh's own songs. He explained his musical ambitions before it unexpectedly emerged that Jackson would come to London to defend his reputation. The star had been due to give evidence via videolink from Los Angeles but his doctor has given him the all clear to cross the Atlantic. He will appear in the witness box on Monday. Sheikh Abdullah today said that he was introduced to Jackson by telephone after writing four songs with brother Jermaine in Bahrain. The sheikh admitted that he had no musical training other than playing the piano as a child. "I write music with producers. I don't write music myself, no," he replied to questioning from Jackson's counsel Robert Englehart QC. "I am very involved in the producing and have a creative input," he said. He also agreed with Mr Englehart that none of the songs he recorded at his Bahrain studio was released and that he spent $450,000 on Jermaine while he stayed in the country from December 2004 to March the following year. The sheikh bought Jermaine the Rolls-Royce when he returned to California. "That was never paid back, was it?" said Mr Englehart. "No," replied Sheikh Abdullah, adding that he did not expect his generosity to be repaid. Mr Englehart said that, before the prince actually met Michael Jackson personally, he had sent the popstar $35,000 and then $1million during his criminal trial in California. "Michael was in need of that and that is correct," said the sheikh. "He thanked me afterwards." The sheikh agreed there was no contract at the time but denied that he provided it as a gift. "These payments were sent to help Michael and many times he confirmed to me he would pay me back." Mr Englehart said there could never be a guarantee that the money would be repaid. "You anticipated that, if Michael was acquitted and came to Bahrain, made records that were released, there might be in the future some money available from the commercial exploitation of the recording?" "Correct," said the sheikh. Bankim Thanki QC, representing the sheikh, had earlier told the court that his client was abandoning part of his claim to force Jackson to honour his agreement. "Sheikh Abdullah does not want any collaboration in the future and nothing more to do with him.In essence, he wants to draw a line through the relationship and, in short, he wants his money back." The pair allegedly had an agreement designed to ensure repayment of the money the sheikh advanced to Jackson. The star travelled to Bahrain in 2005, with his children and staff, at the sheikh's invitation following his acquittal at the criminal trial. The Bahrainian claims they became good friends. Sheikh Abdullah claims he and Jackson entered into a "combined rights agreement", under which the troubled superstar was committed to a recording contract, the production of an autobiography and a musical stage play. Jackson insists there was no valid agreement and says the payments were gifts. The case continues. Why was the Prince riding Mike's dick? He sounds like a schoolgirl in some parts. Man I hope MJ don't come in there talking about "I don't know or I don't recall given $1 million by anybody..."
After MJ's testimony, I think they should settle. Mothafuckas trying to do it during Thanksgiving week, nah fuck that. Why the fuck was Jermaine involved? "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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It seems there WASN'T a contract "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: Why was the Prince riding Mike's dick? He sounds like a schoolgirl in some parts. Man I hope MJ don't come in there talking about "I don't know or I don't recall given $1 million by anybody..."
After MJ's testimony, I think they should settle. Mothafuckas trying to do it during Thanksgiving week, nah fuck that. Why the fuck was Jermaine involved? I have no mothafuckin' idea! And yeah, there doesn't seem to be a contract. | |
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: Why the fuck was Jermaine involved? I have no mothafuckin' idea! And yeah, there doesn't seem to be a contract. when I read Jermaine's name, I knew somethin' was up  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: I have no mothafuckin' idea! And yeah, there doesn't seem to be a contract. when I read Jermaine's name, I knew somethin' was up i seem to recall it being reported that jermaine hooked mj up with this guy b/c they were friends first. want to get to mj? go to jermaine. i believe he was behind the guy from korea who sued mj after jermaine reneged on some deal. in retaliation the guy sued mj. then there was the deal for the restaurant or something that jermaine reneged on, lost a lawsuit, and the guy seized the storage facility and got access to the memorabilia which he helped put up for auction in vegas (not to mention holding up underwear on tv which he claimed belonged to mj). (i don't think i'm imagining this, am i?) some people wonder why mj has decided to stay at arms length from the family; i don't. 
on edit: but for the record i want to reiterate that mj should have paid this guy, and should pay him now. maybe not $7MM, but he should pay for his reasonable room and board, legit entourage expenses, and his 'crazy' requests like the creativity-enhancing guy. he never should have never let it get this far. maybe until now they couldn't settle b/c the prince was trying to force mj to sing his songs? but now the prince says he's not interested in that, so pay him and be done with it. [Edited 11/20/08 15:50pm] | |
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kibbles said: bboy87 said: when I read Jermaine's name, I knew somethin' was up i seem to recall it being reported that jermaine hooked mj up with this guy b/c they were friends first. want to get to mj? go to jermaine. i believe he was behind the guy from korea who sued mj after jermaine reneged on some deal. in retaliation the guy sued mj. then there was the deal for the restaurant or something that jermaine reneged on, lost a lawsuit, and the guy seized the storage facility and got access to the memorabilia which he helped put up for auction in vegas (not to mention holding up underwear on tv which he claimed belonged to mj). (i don't think i'm imagining this, am i?) some people wonder why mj has decided to stay at arms length from the family; i don't. Exactly! Jermaine's always done something shady. | |
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bboy87 said: It seems there WASN'T a contract
NO bboy, there was a contract..read this article LONDON (AFP) – Pop megastar Michael Jackson will testify in person at London's High Court next week against allegations that he owes a Bahraini prince seven million dollars, his lawyer said on Thursday.
Robert Englehart, representing the "King of Pop", told the court that Jackson was withdrawing his application to give evidence via videolink from Los Angeles because of an unspecified medical condition. "He has been cleared by his medical advisers to travel in two days' time," Englehart said. Sheikh Abdulla bin Hamad Al Khalifa, second son of the King of Bahrain, is suing cash-strapped Jackson for seven million dollars (5.6 million euros), demanding the repayment of several advances which the artist has argued were gifts. The 50-year-old artist is expected to give evidence on Monday afternoon, after arriving in Britain over the weekend. According to the BBC, the court heard earlier that Jackson was suffering from an unspecified medical condition and it was unlikely that he would be able to give evidence in person. Experts for the defence had said, though, that it may have been possible for Jackson to testify in London with "suitable dressings", the BBC said. According to the prince's lawyer Bankim Thanki, the sheikh helped support Jackson financially in the aftermath of his 2005 child molestation trial, accepting a request from the artist for one million dollars in April 2005, as well as paying the 2.2-million-dollar legal bill for the court case. Thanki said Jackson signed a contract to record albums, write an autobiography and stage shows, and that document noted that seven million dollars would be deducted from the artist's royalties to pay for expenses. The court heard that Jackson visited Bahrain with his children and personal staff in the aftermath of his 2005 child molestation trial, and left in May 2006 to go to Europe and Japan. A month later, Jackson asked Sheikh Abdulla to sign a document releasing him from his obligations under the previous contract -- a request the prince refused, Thanki said. He said the sheikh felt "a strong sense of betrayal" at the time. Jackson contests the claim, saying the sheikh's case is based on "mistake, misrepresentation and undue influence." Englehart told the court earlier this week that while there was "no doubt that Sheikh Abdulla was very generous in his hospitality and general treatment of Michael Jackson", the contract Jackson apparently signed was "one brick in a building which was never built." He said: "It will be my submission that this contract is clearly intended by both parties to be one of the contractual arrangements in a joint venture which never actually materialised." Jackson also argues that the sheikh exercised "undue influence" over him in the aftermath of the 2005 trial, at which point he was emotionally exhausted. Thanki told the court on Monday that Jackson and the sheikh had a "close personal relationship" and even collaborated on a musical project -- Jackson recorded a song written by the prince which was planned as a charity single. A recording of the song would be played in court during the trial, he said. Though Jackson was riding high in the aftermath of his 1983 uber-hit "Thriller", which remains the best-selling album of all-time with 50 million copies sold, he has since fallen on harder times, with speculation intense regarding the state of his finances. MICHAEL JACKSON
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seeingvoices12 said: bboy87 said: It seems there WASN'T a contract
NO bboy, there was a contract..read this article LONDON (AFP) – Pop megastar Michael Jackson will testify in person at London's High Court next week against allegations that he owes a Bahraini prince seven million dollars, his lawyer said on Thursday.
Robert Englehart, representing the "King of Pop", told the court that Jackson was withdrawing his application to give evidence via videolink from Los Angeles because of an unspecified medical condition. "He has been cleared by his medical advisers to travel in two days' time," Englehart said. Sheikh Abdulla bin Hamad Al Khalifa, second son of the King of Bahrain, is suing cash-strapped Jackson for seven million dollars (5.6 million euros), demanding the repayment of several advances which the artist has argued were gifts. The 50-year-old artist is expected to give evidence on Monday afternoon, after arriving in Britain over the weekend. According to the BBC, the court heard earlier that Jackson was suffering from an unspecified medical condition and it was unlikely that he would be able to give evidence in person. Experts for the defence had said, though, that it may have been possible for Jackson to testify in London with "suitable dressings", the BBC said. According to the prince's lawyer Bankim Thanki, the sheikh helped support Jackson financially in the aftermath of his 2005 child molestation trial, accepting a request from the artist for one million dollars in April 2005, as well as paying the 2.2-million-dollar legal bill for the court case. Thanki said Jackson signed a contract to record albums, write an autobiography and stage shows, and that document noted that seven million dollars would be deducted from the artist's royalties to pay for expenses. The court heard that Jackson visited Bahrain with his children and personal staff in the aftermath of his 2005 child molestation trial, and left in May 2006 to go to Europe and Japan. A month later, Jackson asked Sheikh Abdulla to sign a document releasing him from his obligations under the previous contract -- a request the prince refused, Thanki said. He said the sheikh felt "a strong sense of betrayal" at the time. Jackson contests the claim, saying the sheikh's case is based on "mistake, misrepresentation and undue influence." Englehart told the court earlier this week that while there was "no doubt that Sheikh Abdulla was very generous in his hospitality and general treatment of Michael Jackson", the contract Jackson apparently signed was "one brick in a building which was never built." He said: "It will be my submission that this contract is clearly intended by both parties to be one of the contractual arrangements in a joint venture which never actually materialised." Jackson also argues that the sheikh exercised "undue influence" over him in the aftermath of the 2005 trial, at which point he was emotionally exhausted. Thanki told the court on Monday that Jackson and the sheikh had a "close personal relationship" and even collaborated on a musical project -- Jackson recorded a song written by the prince which was planned as a charity single. A recording of the song would be played in court during the trial, he said. Though Jackson was riding high in the aftermath of his 1983 uber-hit "Thriller", which remains the best-selling album of all-time with 50 million copies sold, he has since fallen on harder times, with speculation intense regarding the state of his finances. No, I'm talking about a different one Early questioning also surrounded the prince's relationship with Jackson's brother, Jermaine. Bin Hamad Al Khalifa said that Jermaine Jackson "was interested in doing music" and that the two were "planning to do a record." Bin Hamad Al Khalifa's lawyers declined to speak to ABCNews, saying they could not comment during the hearings. The judge also made it clear that bin Hamad Al Khalifa was not permitted to speak to the media while the case is ongoing. Bin Hamad Al Khalifa's dealings with Jermaine Jackson took place between late 2004 and early 2005, according to today's testimony. The prince reportedly paid for Jermaine Jackson's travel to and from Bahrain and purchased a Rolls Royce car for him in California. These expenses tallied nearly $450,000, and the prince acknowledged today that he never expected the money to be paid back. But while the prince had hopes of going into business with Michael's older brother, the four songs he recorded with Jermaine Jackson were never released, he testified. He said that Jermaine Jackson also began to get sidetracked with other business interests. During testimony on his relationship with Michael Jackson, the prince said that he and Jackson began by speaking on the phone. When the prince became interested in bringing Michael Jackson to his record label, 2 Seas Records, Jackson made his terms clear. Recounting the conversation, the prince said, "If any brother or [Jackson] family member worked there [the record label], I'm not going to do the deal," referring to Jackson's comments. Jackson and bin Hamad Al Khalifa had what was described in court today as "very involved" conversations about a potential musical collaboration, which doesn't amount to a binding agreement, Jackson's lawyers are arguing. These conversations took place while Jackson was facing trial on child molestation charges in 2005. not to mention that it says Michael told the prince that if any of his family members were working with him(the Prince), Michael wasn't gonna do it, and it seems Jermaine was working with the Prince too "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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he gave Michael $1+ million in 2005, an "alleged" agreement (not contract) about the other finanical transactions, a "Combined Rights Agreement" (made-up terminology) thrown into the mix, and he threw a serious amount of cash towards Jermaine as well but doesn't expect that to be paid back... "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Timmy84 said: JackieBlue said: at least his lacefront is aight
He probably went to Sally's beauty supply for new extensions "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: at least his lacefront is aight
He probably went to Sally's beauty supply for new extensions His lacefronts all fucked up and ghetto as shit. | |
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: at least his lacefront is aight
He probably went to Sally's beauty supply for new extensions His lacefronts all fucked up and ghetto as shit. It's not as bad as the one at the World Music Awards "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: His lacefronts all fucked up and ghetto as shit. It's not as bad as the one at the World Music Awards I kept looking at that shit like he had horse hair, hair was up to the sky and shit! | |
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NaughtyKitty said: As for Michael being naive when it comes to him taking stuff from people and not giving anything back in return because he thinks it was a "gift" to him, yes I think that is partly to blame. However, I still think he's got alot of selfishness in him as well and he just doesnt see or care to see how his actions might hurt other people. And I know there was a time when he wasnt like that, he was just the opposite. A fan posted an excerpt from his autobiography on one of the messageboards, which confirmed to me that yes, Michael had a different outlook on life back then:
...and as for mj.. its sad.. i definitely reflect or wonder on the choices he is making. even if all those largesses he accepted are proven to be gifts, it does not reflect well upon someone who once felt this way:
from moonwalk: One thing I know about children is that if they don't get the love they need from their parents, they'll get it from someone else and cling to that person, a grandparent, anyone. We never had to look for anyone else with my mother around. The lessons she taught us were invaluable. Kindness, love, and consideration for other people headed her list. Don't hurt people. Never beg. Never freeload. Those were sins at our house. She always wanted us to give , but she never wanted us to ask or beg. That's the way she is. The thing is, whether or not Michael was so naive enough to accept the Sheikh's money as nothing more than gifts to him isnt really the point as far as I'm concerned. Its his lack of basic decency that bothers me. I mean, even if someone willingly gives you 7 million, 7, thousand or 700 dollars out of the goodness of their heart as a gift, you should want to at least do something nice for them back in return. If Michael agreed to record the Sheik's songs as well as do those other projects, than he needs to make good on his word--regardless of it was a written contract or Michael told him to his face that he agreed to do these projects. Its the least he could do for someone who took him in and helped get him back on his feet financially after his trial. And if he didnt want to do these projects with the Sheik and had no intention of doing them, then he should have at least have been honest with him and told him that he didnt want to do the projects instead of lying to him and leading him on. But Mike probably felt that if he told him outright that he didnt wanna do it, then his free ride on the Bahraini Luxury Express would've come to a screeching halt. For me, its all about common decency. Michael basically freeloaded off this guy and then cut him out of his life without so much as an afterthought. [Edited 11/20/08 8:09am] I agree with everything you said, good post MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P مايكل جاكسون للأبد 1958 | |
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^Thank you  Yet as more information is coming out about this case, its starting to get a bit more complicated--what I can say about this for sure is: its all a pretty big mess!
Michael Jackson's assistant: Sheik gave him gifts By JILL LAWLESS Associated Press Writer Posted: 11/21/2008 06:18:56 AM PST 
Grace Rwaramba, nanny to US singer Michael Jackson's children, arrives at the Royal Courts of Justice in London Friday, Nov. 21, 2008. Rwaramba is to give evidence in the case brought by Sheik Abdulla bin Hamad Al Khalifa, the son of an Arab monarch, who has taken US singer Michael Jackson to court, charging that the King of Pop took US$7 million (5.5 million euro) as an advance on an album and an autobiography that he never produced. ((AP Photo/Alastair Grant) ) Michael Jackson's former personal assistant told a British court Friday that a Bahraini sheik who is now suing the singer was a generous friend, eager to give Jackson money and other gifts. Grace Rwaramba said Sheik Abdulla bin Hamad Al Khalifa referred to Jackson as his brother and frequently offered the singer gifts and money. "He would say, 'What can I do for my brother?' 'What can I give the children?'" Rwaramba said. "Mr. Jackson had a back pain and he told me to get Tiger Balm for him." Rwaramba, who also was nanny to Jackson's three children, said she considered the sheik's behavior "sweet." She was testifying as a defense witness in a $7 million lawsuit brought against Jackson by Al Khalifa, the second son of the king of Bahrain. The sheik says Jackson reneged on a contract to produce an album, a candid autobiography and a stage play after accepting millions in advances. Jackson claims the money was a gift. The money at issue includes sums of $35,000 and $1 million paid into Rwaramba's bank account by the sheik. Rwaramba said the money was intended for Jackson, who did not have a bank account of his own. Rwaramba said she was "flabbergasted" when she received the first payment of $35,000, which she considered a large sum. She said the sheik "apologized that it was a little. He said next time it would be more." The court heard that Al Khalifa paid for hotel rooms for Jackson and his entourage and trips to Toys R Us to buy Christmas presents for the singer's guests. Rwaramba said the sheik never suggested any of money would have to be paid back. Jackson, 50, and the 33-year-old sheik first made contact when the King of Pop was fending off accusations of child molestation in California and Al Khalifa offered to help him. Once Jackson was cleared of the charges in June 2005, Al Khalifa invited him to the small, oil-rich Gulf state to escape the media spotlight. Al Khalifa says he gave Jackson millions of dollars in all to help shore up his finances and subsidize Jackson's lifestyle in Bahrain—including more than $300,000 for a "motivational guru." Al Khalifa, an amateur songwriter, says the pair even moved into the same palace to work on music together. But Jackson dropped the project in 2006, leaving Bahrain and pulling out of the contract. Jackson's lawyers are arguing that the musician wasn't bound by the deal because the contract was signed on behalf of 2 Seas Records, a venture which never got off the ground. Jackson is due to take the witness stand at London's High Court on Monday. His lawyers had asked for him to give evidence by video link from the U.S., citing an unspecified medical condition. But lawyer Robert Englehart told the judge on Thursday that Jackson's doctors had cleared him to travel. http://www.mercurynews.co...i_11040974 [Edited 11/21/08 8:13am] MJ L.O.V.E: https://www.facebook.com/...689&type=2 / YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/us...nderSilent | |
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