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Reply #90 posted 11/20/08 3:27pm

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This is not live singing. All they do is re-record the vocals in a studio leaving it just a bit rough so we'll think it's a live performance. It really bugs me that they think we're dumb enough to think that this is them singing it live. Anyone that knows even a little bit about sound and mics can't be fooled.
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Reply #91 posted 11/20/08 3:46pm

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JustErin said:

purplesweat said:








This is not live singing. All they do is re-record the vocals in a studio leaving it just a bit rough so we'll think it's a live performance. It really bugs me that they think we're dumb enough to think that this is them singing it live. Anyone that knows even a little bit about sound and mics can't be fooled.

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That's definitely not a live performance.


Not only that, it's a mangling of the song. I know Mick's tasteless ass probably loved it, but I wonder how the rest of the Stones felt about that performance? I bet Keith had a few choice, unprintable things to say about it. lol
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Reply #92 posted 11/20/08 7:56pm

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Britney may not possess powerhouse vocals, but I have a feeling she is about to set shit off in 2009.
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Reply #93 posted 11/20/08 8:24pm

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JustErin said:

purplesweat said:








This is not live singing. All they do is re-record the vocals in a studio leaving it just a bit rough so we'll think it's a live performance. It really bugs me that they think we're dumb enough to think that this is them singing it live. Anyone that knows even a little bit about sound and mics can't be fooled.

i love when people acted shocked when they find out she isn't singling live most of the time. to me it's part of the type of performance he does and no big deal
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Reply #94 posted 11/20/08 9:45pm

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ehuffnsd said:

JustErin said:



This is not live singing. All they do is re-record the vocals in a studio leaving it just a bit rough so we'll think it's a live performance. It really bugs me that they think we're dumb enough to think that this is them singing it live. Anyone that knows even a little bit about sound and mics can't be fooled.

i love when people acted shocked when they find out she isn't singling live most of the time. to me it's part of the type of performance he does and no big deal

Yeah exactly. I'd prefer to see someone who puts on the kind of performances like Britney with lots of dancing to lipsync while doing it than to sound utterly horrible. Now when it comes to people who don't do extreme choreographed dancing it's awful to sit through lip synched songs but for people like Britney I actually expect it
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Reply #95 posted 11/20/08 10:17pm

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The question posed is can Britney sing. We get these answers:

1. Of course you can't expect her to sing there, she's dancing!

2. Yea, I know she has her voice run through every filter on the planet.

3. She's an entertainer, don't expect her to sing.

All of these answer the question. Britney cannot sing. She may be a fine entertainer, but to say she is a good singer, to answer with any integrity, you have to say no. You never hear her actual voice, and when you do, it is excused by. "she's dancing".
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Reply #96 posted 11/21/08 12:21am

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Try searching youtube yourself.


I already told you, I've already heard most of her music, and I don't think it's that good. What's a youtube search going to prove to me that a year of living with a hardcore Britney fan couldn't?


You asked for ACAPELLA videos, I provided them. Since they mysteriously don't work for you, yet seem to work for someone who doesn't mind listening to her, I don't see why you wouldn't want to search youtube yourself?

Don't any of you believe in balanced points of view? Every single one of you that can't stand her won't even watch the videos I provide, I guarantee if this were a Christina thread asking whether I think she can sing without belting, I'd still watch what was given to me, at least give her a chance. I probably wouldn't be convinced but I might be. I'd never just avoid the videos altogether.

Imagine if you were part of a jury and you fully believed the defendant was guilty. What, you're not gonna look at evidence saying they might be innocent because YOU so vehemently believe they're guilty? Rather pathetic and cowardly if you ask me.

*You* might not like what she does, but that doesn't automatically mean that she isn't good at it.


Exactly.

As for that VMA performance, how do you tell if it's live or pre-recorded? Just out of interest.
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Reply #97 posted 11/21/08 6:18am

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The question posed is can Britney sing. We get these answers:

1. Of course you can't expect her to sing there, she's dancing!

2. Yea, I know she has her voice run through every filter on the planet.

3. She's an entertainer, don't expect her to sing.

All of these answer the question. Britney cannot sing. She may be a fine entertainer, but to say she is a good singer, to answer with any integrity, you have to say no. You never hear her actual voice, and when you do, it is excused by. "she's dancing".


You are stating opinion as fact when you say "Britney cannot sing." Others have said she can sing. I think she can sing. She can sing much better than I can sing.... so I think she can sing.

I think compared to other voices maybe hers is not what many would consider to be the best voice. But I think her voice is pleasing.

Besides I was thinking.. a lot of music acts cannot sing very well. You know... I saw a clip of Justin Timberlake on SNL singing without music during Weekend Update, and I do not think his voice was all that! It was very high and weak, I think. If you compared Justin To Robin Thicke(??) well.. I think Robin's voice is much better. If you compare Justin to Ricky Martin even, Ricky is much better. Of course, I like Ricky Martin..

But this is not to say Justin cannot sing. He can still sing.. but there are other voices that are just better..
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Reply #98 posted 11/21/08 9:18am

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I like Brit and all, but the girl still can't sing. She sounds like she is singing through her nose instead of her diaphram.


I do not think she sings like an opera singer, but she has a nice voice.. well in this song.
I think maybe she modifies her voice for different songs.


Come on now, Everyone knows she can't sing to save her life, she can't dance, she can't act ...she has no talent...that said when she was younger she did look hot and have a nice body..but time and drugs has wiped that out...anyway if people want to keep wasting money on her its their choice! cool
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Reply #99 posted 11/21/08 9:51am

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I never thought justin's voice was all that either, even if he has good songs.
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Reply #100 posted 11/21/08 10:43am

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Arnotts said:

ehuffnsd said:


i love when people acted shocked when they find out she isn't singling live most of the time. to me it's part of the type of performance he does and no big deal

Yeah exactly. I'd prefer to see someone who puts on the kind of performances like Britney with lots of dancing to lipsync while doing it than to sound utterly horrible. Now when it comes to people who don't do extreme choreographed dancing it's awful to sit through lip synched songs but for people like Britney I actually expect it

But plenty of performers do choreography and sing live, and do both well. What's Britney's excuse? It's not as if it can't be done.

She gets away with half a performance because that's what people let her get away with. If I want to see dancing to fake singing, I'd have more fun with a drag queen Britney impersonator.
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Reply #101 posted 11/21/08 10:49am

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You asked for ACAPELLA videos, I provided them. Since they mysteriously don't work for you, yet seem to work for someone who doesn't mind listening to her, I don't see why you wouldn't want to search youtube yourself?

Don't any of you believe in balanced points of view? Every single one of you that can't stand her won't even watch the videos I provide, I guarantee if this were a Christina thread asking whether I think she can sing without belting, I'd still watch what was given to me, at least give her a chance. I probably wouldn't be convinced but I might be. I'd never just avoid the videos altogether.

Imagine if you were part of a jury and you fully believed the defendant was guilty. What, you're not gonna look at evidence saying they might be innocent because YOU so vehemently believe they're guilty? Rather pathetic and cowardly if you ask me.


I really did try to play the videos. They didn't work for me. In case you'd missed it, I did put out the question to the rest of the people here whether or not she was singing a cappela, and if she was, was she doing it WELL? The question is not whether she can make sound come out of her mouth, but whether that sound is worth listening to. No one answered me. What do you expect me to do?

Like I said, I lived with a hardcore Britney fan for a year, and I've heard pretty much her entire discography. What's one or two more youtube videos going to prove to me in terms of her talent that listening to her for a year didn't?

And why can't you accept that I don't like her voice? What, do you work for the broad or something?

Exactly.

As for that VMA performance, how do you tell if it's live or pre-recorded? Just out of interest.


Because I have ears and eyes that work. That's clearly a pre-recorded voice. Unless Britney's secretly a robot, it simply sounded too mechanical to be real live vocals. Alsom the sound of her breathing doesn't quite match how she's actually breathing, if you watch.

I can't help but laugh how some people on this thread who are defending Britney's play-singing are some of the same who've gone out of their way before to make fun of boybands -folks who, if nothing else, sing live and do it well. falloff
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Reply #102 posted 11/21/08 10:51am

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lascantas said:

Mars23 said:

The question posed is can Britney sing. We get these answers:

1. Of course you can't expect her to sing there, she's dancing!

2. Yea, I know she has her voice run through every filter on the planet.

3. She's an entertainer, don't expect her to sing.

All of these answer the question. Britney cannot sing. She may be a fine entertainer, but to say she is a good singer, to answer with any integrity, you have to say no. You never hear her actual voice, and when you do, it is excused by. "she's dancing".


You are stating opinion as fact when you say "Britney cannot sing." Others have said she can sing. I think she can sing. She can sing much better than I can sing.... so I think she can sing.

I think compared to other voices maybe hers is not what many would consider to be the best voice. But I think her voice is pleasing.

Besides I was thinking.. a lot of music acts cannot sing very well. You know... I saw a clip of Justin Timberlake on SNL singing without music during Weekend Update, and I do not think his voice was all that! It was very high and weak, I think. If you compared Justin To Robin Thicke(??) well.. I think Robin's voice is much better. If you compare Justin to Ricky Martin even, Ricky is much better. Of course, I like Ricky Martin..

But this is not to say Justin cannot sing. He can still sing.. but there are other voices that are just better..
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Timberlake can't sing, either. That kid's career should have been over 15 minutes ago. But that's for another thread....
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Reply #103 posted 11/21/08 10:56am

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She could easily take her voice and apply it to dance music. I mean, like electronic based dance music the way Rihanna has.

I've always wished she's stop with the "Oh baby baby" bullshit and soften her approach.

The lullaby effect doesn't mean she's terribly good. but at least she's found her grove.


Let's face it, it's on par with Kylie Minogue, Janet Jackson, and a lot of other singers who can't sing, albeit Janet can at least belt a tune out if she wants--not well, but at least she can do it.
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Reply #104 posted 11/21/08 11:03am

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Imago said:

She could easily take her voice and apply it to dance music. I mean, like electronic based dance music the way Rihanna has.

I've always wished she's stop with the "Oh baby baby" bullshit and soften her approach.

The lullaby effect doesn't mean she's terribly good. but at least she's found her grove.


Let's face it, it's on par with Kylie Minogue, Janet Jackson, and a lot of other singers who can't sing, albeit Janet can at least belt a tune out if she wants--not well, but at least she can do it.

those are fightin words dan. Kylie is a great singer
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Reply #105 posted 11/21/08 11:25am

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ehuffnsd said:

Imago said:

She could easily take her voice and apply it to dance music. I mean, like electronic based dance music the way Rihanna has.

I've always wished she's stop with the "Oh baby baby" bullshit and soften her approach.

The lullaby effect doesn't mean she's terribly good. but at least she's found her grove.


Let's face it, it's on par with Kylie Minogue, Janet Jackson, and a lot of other singers who can't sing, albeit Janet can at least belt a tune out if she wants--not well, but at least she can do it.

those are fightin words dan. Kylie is a great singer





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Reply #106 posted 11/21/08 12:24pm

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meow85 said:

ehuffnsd said:


those are fightin words dan. Kylie is a great singer





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go to 3;30

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Reply #107 posted 11/21/08 6:09pm

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I really did try to play the videos. They didn't work for me. In case you'd missed it, I did put out the question to the rest of the people here whether or not she was singing a cappela, and if she was, was she doing it WELL? The question is not whether she can make sound come out of her mouth, but whether that sound is worth listening to. No one answered me. What do you expect me to do?

Like I said, I lived with a hardcore Britney fan for a year, and I've heard pretty much her entire discography. What's one or two more youtube videos going to prove to me in terms of her talent that listening to her for a year didn't?

And why can't you accept that I don't like her voice? What, do you work for the broad or something?


You keep forgetting you asked for acapella. The stuff your friend played was studio, auto tuned etc etc etc

The videos I provided were ACAPELLA. If you want to know if she sounds good ACAPELLA then search for Britney singing Like A Prayer and Overprotected ACAPELLA.

Get it? ACAPELLA.

It's fine if you don't like her voice, but it looks mighty suspicious that videos proving she's not that bad don't work for you but work for everyone else.

She could easily take her voice and apply it to dance music. I mean, like electronic based dance music the way Rihanna has.


That's pretty much what she's already doing, now.

But plenty of performers do choreography and sing live, and do both well. What's Britney's excuse? It's not as if it can't be done.


Can you name some and provide some videos?
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Reply #108 posted 11/22/08 3:22pm

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meow85 said:






razz


go to 3;30


I wouldn't say Kylies a great singer but she definitley sings as well live as she does on record.
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Reply #109 posted 11/22/08 3:32pm

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Arnotts said:


Yeah exactly. I'd prefer to see someone who puts on the kind of performances like Britney with lots of dancing to lipsync while doing it than to sound utterly horrible. Now when it comes to people who don't do extreme choreographed dancing it's awful to sit through lip synched songs but for people like Britney I actually expect it

But plenty of performers do choreography and sing live, and do both well. What's Britney's excuse? It's not as if it can't be done.

She gets away with half a performance because that's what people let her get away with. If I want to see dancing to fake singing, I'd have more fun with a drag queen Britney impersonator.

Britney does pretty hardcore dancing though (obviously not extreme but much more than the average singer/dancer). She doesn't really just stand there much. Yes alot of acts sing and dance at the same time, but the dancing is never as strenuous and constant as Britneys. And they ususally only do it for the chorus or for specific parts of the song. Janet does as much dancing for some of her songs but she lipsyncs them as well. Actually Nsync are probably a good example of people who dance as much and can still sing live. I know it can be done, but I don't think it's as easy or nearly as many people can actually do it as you make out.
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Reply #110 posted 11/23/08 12:40am

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She CAN sing. Is she good? No.



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Reply #111 posted 11/23/08 1:01am

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This little girl has a bit more substance than ole Brit Brit...can keep her timing AND play. Of course the studio version of this sounds better, as with anything we've seen Britney do...but I'm old school; I want my singers to actually sing live...and i think it's a pity that this child couldn't have a bigger piece of the pop star pie when tween-ish music was all the rage:

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Reply #112 posted 11/23/08 8:06am

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i couldn't even finish that song neutral
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Reply #113 posted 11/23/08 9:33am

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Ottensen said:

Alej said:

She CAN sing. Is she good? No.



Thank you.


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