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PrintableAlexdeParis said: dseann said: I believe you. I just found it funny the way Alex put it out there. Sorry, that was my fault. I probably should've added a  on the end. I was just giving Mike a good-natured ribbing. Sorry.  Don't worry mate! I tend to overact. | |
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RockAbilly said: I like that version better. | |
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Cinnie said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I was gonna say! It looks like he's chewing a wad of gum but I think it's just his teeth  I think you're right. 
I thought he was gnashing on something. How high is he?? Dennis was on crack cocaine at the time of this video. He's clean now but he was really fucked up back then. | |
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Timmy84 said: Cinnie said: I think you're right.
I thought he was gnashing on something. How high is he?? Dennis was on crack cocaine at the time of this video. He's clean now but he was really fucked up back then. It shows. | |
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dseann said: Harlepolis said: The song is so-so too. It would've been at least more intersting had Chaka Khan been singing in front of Dennis(who was the 1st female choice to be in the song if it weren't for dumb ass leeching Warner Bros).  Well, Chaka didn't sing, Siedah did, Warner Bros. got their wish and the song is what it is. I like it and love the soul pouring out of both Dennis and Siedah. Not to mention, the track that went on to spawn many platinum hip hop hits. | |
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TonyVanDam said: dseann said: Well, Chaka didn't sing, Siedah did, Warner Bros. got their wish and the song is what it is. I like it and love the soul pouring out of both Dennis and Siedah. Not to mention, the track that went on to spawn many platinum hip hop hits.This is the real hit version. Tupac's was a retaliation against BIG and the Bad Boy family. [Edited 11/15/08 13:14pm] | |
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Soul hasnt been Soul in ages. One reason, NO LIVE PLAYING and another reason would be NO BANDS, and im not talking loser groups like Next and pretty ricky and shit like that, those cats arent Soul, and shouldnt even be allowed to listen to soul "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: Soul hasnt been Soul in ages. One reason, NO LIVE PLAYING and another reason would be NO BANDS, and im not talking loser groups like Next and pretty ricky and shit like that, those cats arent Soul, and shouldnt even be allowed to listen to soul
"Hey, don't look at me, I didn't have shit to do with it... uh Bad Boy baby, get Danity Kane's new album... take that, take that..." | |
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Timmy84 said: lastdecember said: Soul hasnt been Soul in ages. One reason, NO LIVE PLAYING and another reason would be NO BANDS, and im not talking loser groups like Next and pretty ricky and shit like that, those cats arent Soul, and shouldnt even be allowed to listen to soul
"Hey, don't look at me, I didn't have shit to do with it... uh Bad Boy baby, get Danity Kane's new album... take that, take that..." Well like the 90's killed Rock, the 90's also killed RB. In RB's case it was the merger of Rap and RB, U know the shit that Mariah did with her remixes? and Puffy did and then Mary J did with Method Man, that was the writing on the wall. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: Timmy84 said:
"Hey, don't look at me, I didn't have shit to do with it... uh Bad Boy baby, get Danity Kane's new album... take that, take that..." Well like the 90's killed Rock, the 90's also killed RB. In RB's case it was the merger of Rap and RB, U know the shit that Mariah did with her remixes? and Puffy did and then Mary J did with Method Man, that was the writing on the wall. That's why I posted Puffy with his sarcastic comment (though he would say he HELPED the genres  ). | |
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Timmy84 said: lastdecember said: Well like the 90's killed Rock, the 90's also killed RB. In RB's case it was the merger of Rap and RB, U know the shit that Mariah did with her remixes? and Puffy did and then Mary J did with Method Man, that was the writing on the wall. That's why I posted Puffy with his sarcastic comment (though he would say he HELPED the genres ). He helped them "sell" so in that respect he did help, but the cred of the artisty is gone, but he is not alone in this blame, Mariah is right up there too with her cashing in on the whole "remix" crap. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: Timmy84 said: That's why I posted Puffy with his sarcastic comment (though he would say he HELPED the genres ). He helped them "sell" so in that respect he did help, but the cred of the artisty is gone, but he is not alone in this blame, Mariah is right up there too with her cashing in on the whole "remix" crap. You DO know Puffy produced the "Fantasy" remix, right? Though it's understandable Mariah WANTED ODB (RIP) on the track tho. Puffy has a lot, if not all to do, with the destruction of commercial rhythm and blues in the nineties. | |
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Timmy84 said: lastdecember said: He helped them "sell" so in that respect he did help, but the cred of the artisty is gone, but he is not alone in this blame, Mariah is right up there too with her cashing in on the whole "remix" crap. You DO know Puffy produced the "Fantasy" remix, right? Though it's understandable Mariah WANTED ODB (RIP) on the track tho. Puffy has a lot, if not all to do, with the destruction of commercial rhythm and blues in the nineties. he had alot of help with the demise of RB. Once it became a seller, everyone wanted a remix, so they ran to him to "sell", i mean he is to blame for being the "dealer" but the crackheads that ran to him have to share the blame, so Mary J and Mariah and a truck load of others have to get blame. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: Timmy84 said: You DO know Puffy produced the "Fantasy" remix, right? Though it's understandable Mariah WANTED ODB (RIP) on the track tho. Puffy has a lot, if not all to do, with the destruction of commercial rhythm and blues in the nineties. he had alot of help with the demise of RB. Once it became a seller, everyone wanted a remix, so they ran to him to "sell", i mean he is to blame for being the "dealer" but the crackheads that ran to him have to share the blame, so Mary J and Mariah and a truck load of others have to get blame. Oh but of course. Though I love me some Mariah and Mary J., I have to agree. | |
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Timmy84 said: lastdecember said: He helped them "sell" so in that respect he did help, but the cred of the artisty is gone, but he is not alone in this blame, Mariah is right up there too with her cashing in on the whole "remix" crap. You DO know Puffy produced the "Fantasy" remix, right? Though it's understandable Mariah WANTED ODB (RIP) on the track tho. Puffy has a lot, if not all to do, with the destruction of commercial rhythm and blues in the nineties. When it come to the death of rhythm & blues AND Soul, I'm very sure there is room for blame to go around (the downfall of Stax Records, the downfall & buyout of Motown Records, the solo debut of Whitney Houston, the over-usage of the Yamaha DX7/Roland D-50/Korg M1 to replace electric pianos/organs/strings/horns, Teddy Pendergrass' passion for transsexuals, the rise of hip-hop & rap, the death of Luther Vandross, the death of Barry White, etc.). | |
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TonyVanDam said: Timmy84 said: You DO know Puffy produced the "Fantasy" remix, right? Though it's understandable Mariah WANTED ODB (RIP) on the track tho. Puffy has a lot, if not all to do, with the destruction of commercial rhythm and blues in the nineties. When it come to the death of rhythm & blues AND Soul, I'm very sure there is room for blame to go around (the downfall of Stax Records, the downfall & buyout of Motown Records, the solo debut of Whitney Houston, the over-usage of the Yamaha DX7/Roland D-50/Korg M1 to replace electric pianos/organs/strings/horns, Teddy Pendergrass' passion for transsexuals, the rise of hip-hop & rap, the death of Luther Vandross, the death of Barry White, etc.). Yeah, you can say that again, a lot of things had to do with that music's downfall though in some kind of way GREAT R&B is still breathing if not promoted as it used to be. | |
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Timmy84 said: TonyVanDam said: This is the real hit version. Tupac's was a retaliation against BIG and the Bad Boy family. [Edited 11/15/08 13:14pm] Preach. | |
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Timmy84 said: TonyVanDam said: When it come to the death of rhythm & blues AND Soul, I'm very sure there is room for blame to go around (the downfall of Stax Records, the downfall & buyout of Motown Records, the solo debut of Whitney Houston, the over-usage of the Yamaha DX7/Roland D-50/Korg M1 to replace electric pianos/organs/strings/horns, Teddy Pendergrass' passion for transsexuals, the rise of hip-hop & rap, the death of Luther Vandross, the death of Barry White, etc.). Yeah, you can say that again, a lot of things had to do with that music's downfall though in some kind of way GREAT R&B is still breathing if not promoted as it used to be. Luther and Barry both died after the "death of soul" so I wouldn't put them in the mix. The truth is there still is some soul out there, Erykah, D'Angelo, Maxwell even Seal but I guess they have a fear of flooding the market with good music as they only release albums once every seven years. P.S. Oh and I'm sorry, India.Arie. [Edited 11/17/08 7:34am] | |
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