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lastdecember

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Just listened to the new nickelback and i think i want to shoot myself

Well im guessing/predicting that this album will be the biggest seller of the Xmas season, considering, everyone who buys them thinks they are buying a rock band, but they are possibly one of the worst artists in history, and im not being mean they are probably nice dudes, but they are hideous. I got a promo of this awful album and they are terrible, they are so contrived and boring that everytime i hear the word "Rock" used to describe them i want the person who says that to just explode. And i blame GRUNGE and that whole early 90's movemnet of Nirvana and Soundgarden for bands like Nickelback and Hinder and Daughtry, they all need to just tour together so we can see who is going to these shows and stop them from breeding.

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Reply #1 posted 11/12/08 5:46pm

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Not a fan of nickelback and i disagree that Nirvana (came out 1988/1989) and Soundgarden (1984) are to blame for the early 90's movement. Music changed with the times..... now u would appreciate the 1990s music b/c the last 8 years on this side of the century has been terrible. i am not looking forward for 2010 - 2020 music scene. are u?

lastdecember said:

Well im guessing/predicting that this album will be the biggest seller of the Xmas season, considering, everyone who buys them thinks they are buying a rock band, but they are possibly one of the worst artists in history, and im not being mean they are probably nice dudes, but they are hideous. I got a promo of this awful album and they are terrible, they are so contrived and boring that everytime i hear the word "Rock" used to describe them i want the person who says that to just explode. And i blame GRUNGE and that whole early 90's movemnet of Nirvana and Soundgarden for bands like Nickelback and Hinder and Daughtry, they all need to just tour together so we can see who is going to these shows and stop them from breeding.
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Reply #2 posted 11/12/08 5:53pm

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Torres said:

Not a fan of nickelback and i disagree that Nirvana (came out 1988/1989) and Soundgarden (1984) are to blame for the early 90's movement. Music changed with the times..... now u would appreciate the 1990s music b/c the last 8 years on this side of the century has been terrible. i am not looking forward for 2010 - 2020 music scene. are u?

lastdecember said:

Well im guessing/predicting that this album will be the biggest seller of the Xmas season, considering, everyone who buys them thinks they are buying a rock band, but they are possibly one of the worst artists in history, and im not being mean they are probably nice dudes, but they are hideous. I got a promo of this awful album and they are terrible, they are so contrived and boring that everytime i hear the word "Rock" used to describe them i want the person who says that to just explode. And i blame GRUNGE and that whole early 90's movemnet of Nirvana and Soundgarden for bands like Nickelback and Hinder and Daughtry, they all need to just tour together so we can see who is going to these shows and stop them from breeding.


I hated the 90's, the 90's are the reason for everything right now, there are about maybe 5 artists that came out of the 90's that were good, there were some good albums but none were from 90's artists they were from older artists who just continued. The 90's were when soundscan took over and hip hop and rap polluted RB and when awful bands destroyed rock for the most part. This decade has been pretty bad too, but at least its not selling like that 90's stuff did, so without cash things just wont continue good or not. but in this decade once again it was artists that came before these two decades that still made the best new music

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Reply #3 posted 11/12/08 7:08pm

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who BUYS nickelback albums, anyway?

and don't say nirvana fans, because i'm one and i can tell you there's a WORLD of difference between kurt's songwriting and this crap.

for pete's sake, candlebox was freakin brilliance in a can compared to dickelslap.

so seriously....who are these millions and trillions of people who buy nickelcrap albums? how does this happen?

someone once argued to me that i can hate them all i want, but they're great for the music industry because they're bringing in tons of money to the label that can be redistributed to all the funky little hipster band labelmates i might like. i scratched my chin for a moment and said "huh", but decided ultimately it was more productive to keep hating nickelback regardless.
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Reply #4 posted 11/12/08 7:22pm

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I know it's cool to not like Nickelback, but I think they have written some very catchy songs. They are well performed and well sung.

But I do agree, I don't see that much of a similiarty between Nirvana, Soundgarden and other 90's grunge bands and Nickelback.
I loved a lot of the 90's grunge influenced bands. Hole's Live Through This is one of the best albums ever.
Rock is a very wide diverse catergory of music. I don't really see how someone can say some band isn't real rock. People like different kinds of rock.
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Reply #5 posted 11/12/08 7:26pm

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Glindathegood said:

I know it's cool to not like Nickelback, but I think they have written some very catchy songs. They are well performed and well sung.

But I do agree, I don't see that much of a similiarty between Nirvana, Soundgarden and other 90's grunge bands and Nickelback.
I loved a lot of the 90's grunge influenced bands. Hole's Live Through This is one of the best albums ever.
Rock is a very wide diverse catergory of music. I don't really see how someone can say some band isn't real rock. People like different kinds of rock.



musically there might be some overlap in the "grunge" style rock, even though i think nickelback sounds produced and clean as a whistle compared to hole or nirvana. lyrically, there is no similarity at all to either of those bands. hole and nirvana were provocative, vulnerable, artsy, caustic...nickelback is as wholesome and regular as a bowl of all bran.
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Reply #6 posted 11/12/08 7:31pm

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lastdecember said:

Well im guessing/predicting that this album will be the biggest seller of the Xmas season, considering, everyone who buys them thinks they are buying a rock band, but they are possibly one of the worst artists in history, and im not being mean they are probably nice dudes, but they are hideous. I got a promo of this awful album and they are terrible, they are so contrived and boring that everytime i hear the word "Rock" used to describe them i want the person who says that to just explode. And i blame GRUNGE and that whole early 90's movemnet of Nirvana and Soundgarden for bands like Nickelback and Hinder and Daughtry, they all need to just tour together so we can see who is going to these shows and stop them from breeding.


I think Nickelback has more in common with Rick Springfield than Nirvana boxed
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lastdecember said:

Well im guessing/predicting that this album will be the biggest seller of the Xmas season, considering, everyone who buys them thinks they are buying a rock band, but they are possibly one of the worst artists in history, and im not being mean they are probably nice dudes, but they are hideous. I got a promo of this awful album and they are terrible, they are so contrived and boring that everytime i hear the word "Rock" used to describe them i want the person who says that to just explode. And i blame GRUNGE and that whole early 90's movemnet of Nirvana and Soundgarden for bands like Nickelback and Hinder and Daughtry, they all need to just tour together so we can see who is going to these shows and stop them from breeding.


I think Nickelback has more in common with Rick Springfield than Nirvana boxed
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Nice try dude, but Nickelback cant write "hooks", they are fucking boring plain and simple, the reason they are Grungy, is the fact that they are depressing. Every song they write is "im here your there, miss you cant find myself, wish i was dead" and they play really bad too. And the dude from Nickeback does have that "droning" whine that Kurt Cobain had so there is a big time similarity in that, not saying they are writing the same songs but their "droning" style of fucking depression is there.

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Reply #8 posted 11/12/08 8:06pm

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lastdecember said:

MendesCity said:



I think Nickelback has more in common with Rick Springfield than Nirvana boxed
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Nice try dude, but Nickelback cant write "hooks", they are fucking boring plain and simple, the reason they are Grungy, is the fact that they are depressing. Every song they write is "im here your there, miss you cant find myself, wish i was dead" and they play really bad too. And the dude from Nickeback does have that "droning" whine that Kurt Cobain had so there is a big time similarity in that, not saying they are writing the same songs but their "droning" style of fucking depression is there.


I'd say it's more a case of corporate imitations of better artists:
Nickelback is to Nirvana as Rick Springfield is to Graham Parker
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Reply #9 posted 11/12/08 8:11pm

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MendesCity said:


I think Nickelback has more in common with Rick Springfield than Nirvana boxed
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Exactly. I love most kinds of rock and I like Rick Sringfield as well. But he has a very mainstream non edgy sound just like Nickelback. I don't get why people are snobs about music.
I love Madonna, but I also love more alternative edgy artists. I either enjoy someone's music or I don't. I'm not into the snobby thing about what is credible and what isn't.
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Reply #10 posted 11/12/08 8:14pm

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MendesCity said:

lastdecember said:



Nice try dude, but Nickelback cant write "hooks", they are fucking boring plain and simple, the reason they are Grungy, is the fact that they are depressing. Every song they write is "im here your there, miss you cant find myself, wish i was dead" and they play really bad too. And the dude from Nickeback does have that "droning" whine that Kurt Cobain had so there is a big time similarity in that, not saying they are writing the same songs but their "droning" style of fucking depression is there.


I'd say it's more a case of corporate imitations of better artists:
Nickelback is to Nirvana as Rick Springfield is to Graham Parker


Cant agree on that, i mean Springfield and Parker are not even close in any way shape or form, Nickelback is using a similar tone and vibe that nirvana did.Springfield has actually had a career before the 80s, though i know people dont like to realize that but he has had albums since 1969 within a group and solo hits in 1972.

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Glindathegood said:

MendesCity said:


I think Nickelback has more in common with Rick Springfield than Nirvana boxed
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Exactly. I love most kinds of rock and I like Rick Sringfield as well. But he has a very mainstream non edgy sound just like Nickelback. I don't get why people are snobs about music.
I love Madonna, but I also love more alternative edgy artists. I either enjoy someone's music or I don't. I'm not into the snobby thing about what is credible and what isn't.


It depends what you are listening to, i find the judgements on Springfield are based on "jessies girl" and the singles he's had on the radio, and that isnt a fair judgement, his last three albums, are actually more edgy than the "artists" that are being called "edgy" and "innovative" now. There is nothing interesting in Nickelback at all, that may sound harsh, but there is just an empty pit of nothing in everything they do, ive heard their records, seen there videos and tried to see what it is about them people dig, and as usual i have no idea why people are into it

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Reply #12 posted 11/12/08 10:37pm

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With all the shit that is coming out in the music business today.... ppl are desperate to buy rock music like Nickelback?

Do u own any of Nirvana's albums?


lastdecember said:

It depends what you are listening to, i find the judgements on Springfield are based on "jessies girl" and the singles he's had on the radio, and that isnt a fair judgement, his last three albums, are actually more edgy than the "artists" that are being called "edgy" and "innovative" now. There is nothing interesting in Nickelback at all, that may sound harsh, but there is just an empty pit of nothing in everything they do, ive heard their records, seen there videos and tried to see what it is about them people dig, and as usual i have no idea why people are into it
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Reply #13 posted 11/13/08 12:17pm

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Torres said:

With all the shit that is coming out in the music business today.... ppl are desperate to buy rock music like Nickelback?

Do u own any of Nirvana's albums?


lastdecember said:

It depends what you are listening to, i find the judgements on Springfield are based on "jessies girl" and the singles he's had on the radio, and that isnt a fair judgement, his last three albums, are actually more edgy than the "artists" that are being called "edgy" and "innovative" now. There is nothing interesting in Nickelback at all, that may sound harsh, but there is just an empty pit of nothing in everything they do, ive heard their records, seen there videos and tried to see what it is about them people dig, and as usual i have no idea why people are into it


I have all of Nirvana's stuff, to me they were a good band but that was it, had kurt lived i dont think they would have progressed any further as a band i think they would have broken up, very similar to Guns N Roses, they are way too praised.

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Pearl Jam were formed 1990..... 18 years later..... still together.... Nirvana could be together to this day.... who knows. I wished Soundgarden never broke up.


lastdecember said:

Torres said:

With all the shit that is coming out in the music business today.... ppl are desperate to buy rock music like Nickelback?

Do u own any of Nirvana's albums?




I have all of Nirvana's stuff, to me they were a good band but that was it, had kurt lived i dont think they would have progressed any further as a band i think they would have broken up, very similar to Guns N Roses, they are way too praised.
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Torres said:

Pearl Jam were formed 1990..... 18 years later..... still together.... Nirvana could be together to this day.... who knows. I wished Soundgarden never broke up.


lastdecember said:



I have all of Nirvana's stuff, to me they were a good band but that was it, had kurt lived i dont think they would have progressed any further as a band i think they would have broken up, very similar to Guns N Roses, they are way too praised.


But thats the thing, Pearl Jam was always the better band they just got caught in that "grunge" era, but they really werent grunge, they were more of a hard rock band, similar to the who. I didnt see that growth potential in Nirvana much like with GNR as a band.

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The growth potential in Nirvana is an interesting view... but honestly... they got even more popular from Kurt Cobain's Death. Yes and true, Pearl Jam are a Hard Rock band that got caught in the Grunge era. U should check out the album Temple of the Dog.....members of PJ and Soundgarden together, Chris Cornell Lead Vocalist and Song writer... one of the finest albums from the 1990s.

lastdecember said:

Torres said:

Pearl Jam were formed 1990..... 18 years later..... still together.... Nirvana could be together to this day.... who knows. I wished Soundgarden never broke up.




But thats the thing, Pearl Jam was always the better band they just got caught in that "grunge" era, but they really werent grunge, they were more of a hard rock band, similar to the who. I didnt see that growth potential in Nirvana much like with GNR as a band.
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Reply #17 posted 11/13/08 6:25pm

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This album bugs you so much that you want to sterilize their fans? lol

I don't think they are good enough to qualify for that type of hate. wink

To me they sound/look like a perfect amalgamation of Lifetime Network and SPike TV. A match made in the back of a pickup truck.

But major props to anyone that stands up for what moves them.

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God only knows why you would purposely listen to them. I mean they are so bad they covered themselves not someone who actually does good music
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Reply #19 posted 11/13/08 7:24pm

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I didn't listen, but your comment seems a bit extreme lol
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lastdecember said:

Well im guessing/predicting that this album will be the biggest seller of the Xmas season, considering, everyone who buys them thinks they are buying a rock band, but they are possibly one of the worst artists in history, and im not being mean they are probably nice dudes, but they are hideous. I got a promo of this awful album and they are terrible, they are so contrived and boring that everytime i hear the word "Rock" used to describe them i want the person who says that to just explode. And i blame GRUNGE and that whole early 90's movemnet of Nirvana and Soundgarden for bands like Nickelback and Hinder and Daughtry, they all need to just tour together so we can see who is going to these shows and stop them from breeding.


Don't pollute your ears with that mess man

...however, I gotta admit, I like Nirvana
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Reply #22 posted 11/14/08 6:34am

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I don't think Nickelback really listens to a damn thing recorded before 'Master of Puppets', and it shows badly
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Reply #23 posted 11/14/08 6:39am

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Don't fuck around, use a glock and do it at the store that sells them.

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Brendan said:

To me they sound/look like a perfect amalgamation of Lifetime Network and SPike TV


lol case closed
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I'd shoot myself if I ever listened to ANY of the Nickelback albums. eek
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Reply #26 posted 11/14/08 6:26pm

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i just can't imagine anyone being a passionate fan of this band. "yeah, i collect everything nickelback related. i have every recording and every import on every format ever released. i have a whole room of promo and tour posters. don't tell anyone, but i also have over 500 nickelback bootleg recordings."

i mean, i can't imagine it, but I'M SURE THEY EXIST. eek

it's one of those things i just can't wrap my mind around. lol
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Reply #27 posted 11/14/08 7:18pm

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ok, let's go back to the era 1990/91 and look at some bands mentioned on this thread, or the musical genre you say that has led us to Nickelback.....and let's leave out the obvious Nirvana, because that comparison you made really makes no sense to me. Listen to these tracks and ask yourself which ones do you think stood the test of time more.

Temple of the Dog - 'Hungerstrike' 1990



Soundgarden - 'Outshined' Badmotorfinger 1991




fuck it, let's do include Nirvana, just no the obvious one:

Nirvana - 'Sliver' Incesticede 1990




Alice In Chains - 'Would' Dirt 1992






and another video from the same era, just not so grungy, and not from Seattle.....this was why so many people welcomed the Seattle grunge scene so much:

Firehouse - 'Don't Treat Me Bad' 1991




and finally, Nickelback, almost 20 years later:





You have to admit that it is a very blunt statement that the first 4 songs led us to the Nickelback-crap from today.....the Firehouse-song from '91 is a lot closer!
Sure, there were some crap grunge bands and copycats but I just hate it when this scene is being put off as a fluke that didn't mean anything. I guess, you had to be in your early 20's when it broke through, after having survived most of the crap rockbands that came out in the 80's.....

Nickelback suck ass, but there is no credit for the better grunge bands for that.....
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ok, let's go back to the era 1990/91 and look at some bands mentioned on this thread, or the musical genre you say that has led us to Nickelback.....and let's leave out the obvious Nirvana, because that comparison you made really makes no sense to me. Listen to these tracks and ask yourself which ones do you think stood the test of time more.

Temple of the Dog - 'Hungerstrike' 1990



Soundgarden - 'Outshined' Badmotorfinger 1991




fuck it, let's do include Nirvana, just no the obvious one:

Nirvana - 'Sliver' Incesticede 1990




Alice In Chains - 'Would' Dirt 1992






and another video from the same era, just not so grungy, and not from Seattle.....this was why so many people welcomed the Seattle grunge scene so much:

Firehouse - 'Don't Treat Me Bad' 1991




and finally, Nickelback, almost 20 years later:





You have to admit that it is a very blunt statement that the first 4 songs led us to the Nickelback-crap from today.....the Firehouse-song from '91 is a lot closer!
Sure, there were some crap grunge bands and copycats but I just hate it when this scene is being put off as a fluke that didn't mean anything. I guess, you had to be in your early 20's when it broke through, after having survived most of the crap rockbands that came out in the 80's.....

Nickelback suck ass, but there is no credit for the better grunge bands for that.....
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no one said that "era" which wasnt an era it was more like a 3-4 year thing, didnt mean anything, im saying that it spawned bands like this (nickelback,lifehouse,hinder,alterbridge) bands that are now all singing the same song. Every movement you get will cause crap, the issue with the grunge era is that no one really survived with the exception of Pearl Jam who werent a grunge band anyway they just got caught in it. Every movement spawns copycats, the supposed "metal days" had Motley Crue but then crap like Winger and Warrant crawled into the picture, but bands that are bigger than movements survive and those who arent bigger than the movement dont survive. Nickelback and the others mentioned like Daughtry,Hinder etc...are all the same band, same chords same theme, and its coming from this 90's rock era which was the grunge era so to speak, when you bands SLOW rock down to nothing.

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