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Reply #60 posted 11/09/08 2:28pm

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marian said:

TotalAlisa said:


i know its been years since janet was on top. but people seem to forgot what janet accomplished and what she did. and beyonce has NOT and NEVER captured that.
I knew i had to pull out the footage because i think for the most part the younger generation knows nothing abut janet jackson and all they see all day is beyonce.

and the thing is beyonce's Sex appeal canNOT compare to janet's sexapeal during janet's prime. Janet did NOT have to try so hard, and sing about how great she is, and how cool she is, and how she the hottest one of the block.

Beyonce has to hype herself up and tell people how sexy and beautiful she is. Janet does NOT.


I voted Beyonce on the sex appeal because Janet to me looked beautiful during her prime (I am thinking about the "Janet" videos) but not necessarily sexy. Just very pretty. Beyonce on the other hand looked sexy especially when she was younger. It is just my personal opinion.

well if you did a vote on the older generation of men who remembers janet they would definitely say janet is sexier and has more sexappeal. But of course you are from the beyonce generation so you wouldn't really know.
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Reply #61 posted 11/09/08 2:29pm

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this question should be directed towards older people who actually remember and lived through janet's prime and through beyonce's Because this younger generation does not know anything nor could they judge correctly. lol lol
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Reply #62 posted 11/09/08 3:19pm

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Janet, all categories. Bye.
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Reply #63 posted 11/09/08 4:06pm

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Janet at her prime even Janet now is better than Beyonce. Beyonce is still very talented and im feelin 'single ladies' but 'If i were is a boy' is so typical. Janet was a fairly good singer and could dance her ass off plus had the look
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Reply #64 posted 11/09/08 4:10pm

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Janet, all categories. Bye.


lol Nuff said.
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Reply #65 posted 11/12/08 2:22am

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Harlepolis said:

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Silly Comparison. They are both talented strong females in all the categories listed except for singing, LOL.

The better comparison would be which FATHER/MANAGER did a better job getting them hooked up in the industry. I would say Joe Jackson did a better job and there seems to be less people that hate on him than do dispise Matthew Knowles.


Janet wasn't managed by her father, at least not in her prime. She made it on her own by her own terms

Had it not been for Papa Knowles, this chickenhead's only claim to fame would've been a Sister2Sister cover and rap hooks.



damn, even MY feelings are hurt lol
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Reply #66 posted 11/12/08 3:00am

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Janet each and every mofo time!

Lip synced but who cares... jANET>>>


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Reply #67 posted 11/12/08 4:22am

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Janet, all categories. Bye.

Agreed.
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Reply #68 posted 11/12/08 8:55am

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OfftheWall said:

Janet each and every mofo time!

Lip synced but who cares... jANET>>>



this performance is AMAZING love

janet looks so beautiful
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Reply #69 posted 11/12/08 9:13am

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gotta cast my vote for Janet! of course! btw Janet's prime begins at Control-AFU.
janet wrote the template for beyonce's career as a solo artist.
when beyonce puts a string of albums like those together, we can talk.
where are Beyonce's "rock" hits (If, Black Cat)
where is her "must see" video (Rhythm Nation)
where is her "socially conscious" album (RN)?

Beyonce is fine, but overrated, overexposed, bimbo-ish, and.....

basically, the protege can't be better than the original (like Kobe and Jordan)
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Reply #70 posted 11/12/08 9:28am

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OfftheWall said:

Janet each and every mofo time!

Lip synced but who cares... jANET>>>





:excited:OMG, I loved this era. Janet, Tina, Shawnette... my two favorite Janet songs… my all time favorite Janet choreography... Janet killing it with 10s across the board. Beyonce is too aggressive for my tastes. Can't believe this thread got this far. lol
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Reply #71 posted 11/24/08 3:49pm

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LOL. Janet is completely different than Beyonce I don't even see why this thread exists. Her style is not close to being comparable. There needs to be a similarity to urge a comparison.
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Reply #72 posted 11/24/08 3:55pm

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I listened to the entire Sasha Fierce album....Janet Jackson Prime? Beyoncé doesn't even compare to Janet now. "20 YO" is a better album (and "Disciplince" a much better album). It was late when I was listening...shocked I didn't fall asleep!
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Reply #73 posted 11/24/08 4:13pm

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gotta cast my vote for Janet! of course! btw Janet's prime begins at Control-AFU.
janet wrote the template for beyonce's career as a solo artist.

Beyonce is fine, but overrated, overexposed, bimbo-ish, and.....

basically, the protege can't be better than the original (like Kobe and Jordan)


what template? i don't understand. I just think janet and beyonce and two different artists. wouldn't singers like tina turner be more in beyonce's line? i just don't see this janet beyonce comparison.
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Reply #74 posted 11/24/08 4:14pm

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floetcist said:

LOL. Janet is completely different than Beyonce I don't even see why this thread exists. Her style is not close to being comparable. There needs to be a similarity to urge a comparison.



i agree.
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Reply #75 posted 11/24/08 7:14pm

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Janet all the way. Janet is just all around better, her music is much better.

JANET biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin
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Reply #76 posted 11/25/08 3:11am

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While Janet can't sing & Beyonce undoubtedly blows her away voice-wise, I like so many more songs by Janet than I do Bey. In fact, I'm sure I like 5-7 Beyonce/Destiny's Child songs while I like a good 30 songs by Janet, maybe more...

Yes, her career is longer so she's had more time, but I think her albums have been more appealing to me on a whole...


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Reply #77 posted 11/25/08 7:02am

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Janet's catalogue is better than Beyonce's because music generally was better in those days, and Janet had a better team around her. But in terms of raw talent I'm sorry to tell you guys that Beyonce walks all over Janet. A lot of you dismiss the lip synching as insignificant, but if you're talking about TALENT then it has to be considered. Beyonce smokes her vocally. Also, Beyonce can own a stage without the aid of choreographers. Janet cannot.

However, I totally agree with JackieBlue that Beyonce is too aggressive and lacking in grace. There's almost a clumsiness to her sometimes. Whenever I watch her perform I'm always like "Yeah, but.....".

Ultimately though, I feel you could easily find a dancer with a half-way decent voice, put a good team around her and she could do what Janet does and you wouldn't even notice the difference. Hell, they already did that twice. First one was called Paula Abdul, the second was called Britney Spears. Only difference was the A&R men gave them more of a pop sound.

So to sum up, Janet Jackson was a better PRODUCT than Beyonce. But Beyonce is a more talented INDIVIDUAL than Janet. cool
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Reply #78 posted 11/25/08 8:50am

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I don't think everyone will put out a video like Rhythm Nation and a socially conscious album. Beyonce has put out music that talks to women and so has Janet. I do agree that vocally Beyonce blows Janet away and puts on a great show though I prefer listening to Janet often cause she has much better songs.
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Reply #79 posted 11/25/08 4:24pm

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midnightmover said:

Janet's catalogue is better than Beyonce's because music generally was better in those days, and Janet had a better team around her. But in terms of raw talent I'm sorry to tell you guys that Beyonce walks all over Janet. A lot of you dismiss the lip synching as insignificant, but if you're talking about TALENT then it has to be considered. Beyonce smokes her vocally. Also, Beyonce can own a stage without the aid of choreographers. Janet cannot.

However, I totally agree with JackieBlue that Beyonce is too aggressive and lacking in grace. There's almost a clumsiness to her sometimes. Whenever I watch her perform I'm always like "Yeah, but.....".

Ultimately though, I feel you could easily find a dancer with a half-way decent voice, put a good team around her and she could do what Janet does and you wouldn't even notice the difference. Hell, they already did that twice. First one was called Paula Abdul, the second was called Britney Spears. Only difference was the A&R men gave them more of a pop sound.

So to sum up, Janet Jackson was a better PRODUCT than Beyonce. But Beyonce is a more talented INDIVIDUAL than Janet. cool


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Reply #80 posted 11/27/08 6:07pm

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Harlepolis said:

WillieDynamite said:

Silly Comparison. They are both talented strong females in all the categories listed except for singing, LOL.

The better comparison would be which FATHER/MANAGER did a better job getting them hooked up in the industry. I would say Joe Jackson did a better job and there seems to be less people that hate on him than do dispise Matthew Knowles.


Janet wasn't managed by her father, at least not in her prime. She made it on her own by her own terms

Had it not been for Papa Knowles, this chickenhead's only claim to fame would've been a Sister2Sister cover and rap hooks.


are u kidding? that has got to be the biggest crock of shit said in this thread. janet owes everything to these 4 people -- JIMMY JAM, TERRY LEWIS, RENE ELIZONDO, AND BIG BROTHER MICHAEL JACKSON. janet wouldn't have stood a chance on her own. her music is lyrical shit now since her ex-husband left the picture and stopped ghost-writing for her. beyonce's daddy may be her manager but what connections did he have existing in the industry? none. he wasn't and ain't no clive davis. what other superstars does he manage? its not fair to say thats her only claim to fame when janet jackson is the one that got in for nepotism!


i'm sorry, if you're going to call yourself a singer, you should be able to sing with that said.....beyonce >>>> janet. she blows janets thin whispering ass out the box and she can outperform her.....prime and now. janet, like britney spears, are nothing without their choreographers....they can never come on stage for an impromptu performance of any of their popular songs. beyonce has natural charisma and she may be OTT but it sure beats janets stiff old 1986 dance routines that she is STILL doing in 2008! take away that mic headset she wears and janet is about as talented as any high school cheerleader today in America. she doesnt write her own songs, she doesnt produce, she can't sing a lick, she doesn't choreograph her own moves, and she never sings live. as far as her beauty, thank her plastic surgeons.
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Reply #81 posted 11/28/08 9:34am

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LoveSong69 said:

Harlepolis said:



Janet wasn't managed by her father, at least not in her prime. She made it on her own by her own terms

Had it not been for Papa Knowles, this chickenhead's only claim to fame would've been a Sister2Sister cover and rap hooks.


are u kidding? that has got to be the biggest crock of shit said in this thread. janet owes everything to these 4 people -- JIMMY JAM, TERRY LEWIS, RENE ELIZONDO, AND BIG BROTHER MICHAEL JACKSON. janet wouldn't have stood a chance on her own. her music is lyrical shit now since her ex-husband left the picture and stopped ghost-writing for her. beyonce's daddy may be her manager but what connections did he have existing in the industry? none. he wasn't and ain't no clive davis. what other superstars does he manage? its not fair to say thats her only claim to fame when janet jackson is the one that got in for nepotism!

100% correct. Janet's career is one of the most blatant examples of nepotism in musical history. Beyonce had no connections. Her father was no-one in the industry, but he knew his daughter had the talent and drive to succeed, just like Joseph Jackson knew Michael and the boys had the same. But just imagine if Joseph had only had Janet. He'd still be stuck in the steel mill right now.
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Reply #82 posted 11/28/08 1:07pm

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Janet.

Bey is talented but she does not appeal to me. Vocally, I like Janet's soft mellow voice better.
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Reply #83 posted 11/28/08 1:12pm

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See, I think people are just saying Janet is better because of her Production. Let's be real, people. Janet had freakin' Jimmy jam & Terry Lewis! lol

Janet cannot outsing Beyonce
Janet cannot even write...Jimmy Jam & Terry handled most of those duties
Janet can dance better than Beyonce..I'll just give her that.


People just give Janet a pass 'cause she's a Jackson. hmph! lol


False. She wrote "Black Cat". One of her ten #1 pop hits.
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Reply #84 posted 11/29/08 5:55am

alphastreet

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Janet.

Bey is talented but she does not appeal to me. Vocally, I like Janet's soft mellow voice better.


Janet's voice is definitely prettier and more pleasant to my ears although beyonce is a wayyy strong vocalist
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Reply #85 posted 11/29/08 7:48am

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I think Beyonce has a stronger voice. Has Beyonce had any plastic surgery?

I think they are tied on looks, particularly since Janet had plastic surgery, for sure. Maybe Beyonce did, too? But to me.. looks cannot be fairly judged if one or both have had surgery.

However, I do like Janet's videos better than Beyonce's. I do like Janet's songs better than Beyonce's even though Beyonce's voice might be more of an "instrument." I also think Janet might dance better than Beyonce because what I have seen Janet's choreography is more intricate and choreographed?

So... I prefer Janet over Beyonce even though Beyonce is talented, too.

Now I like Mariah better than Janet! lol But then.. I lean more toward "singers" than music/dance artists. I like Christina Aguilera, too! There are some I like though, and I like Janet.. Well.. the last Janet cd I really liked was All4You. I like Janet's older stuff.
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Reply #86 posted 12/12/08 8:46am

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Janet
Janet
Janet
Janet
Janet

How is this even a question? Beyonce's songs get tiring after awhile. Janet's are timeless. She's a visionary icon!
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Reply #87 posted 12/12/08 11:16am

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midnightmover said:

LoveSong69 said:



are u kidding? that has got to be the biggest crock of shit said in this thread. janet owes everything to these 4 people -- JIMMY JAM, TERRY LEWIS, RENE ELIZONDO, AND BIG BROTHER MICHAEL JACKSON. janet wouldn't have stood a chance on her own. her music is lyrical shit now since her ex-husband left the picture and stopped ghost-writing for her. beyonce's daddy may be her manager but what connections did he have existing in the industry? none. he wasn't and ain't no clive davis. what other superstars does he manage? its not fair to say thats her only claim to fame when janet jackson is the one that got in for nepotism!

100% correct. Janet's career is one of the most blatant examples of nepotism in musical history. Beyonce had no connections. Her father was no-one in the industry, but he knew his daughter had the talent and drive to succeed, just like Joseph Jackson knew Michael and the boys had the same. But just imagine if Joseph had only had Janet. He'd still be stuck in the steel mill right now.
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I guess that means we can expect multi platnium cd's from Tito, Latoya , Jackie and the rest. And no matter how hard Mathew Knowles tries, he can't do shit for Solange. I guess that "nepotism" theory goes out the window. Try again.
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Reply #88 posted 12/12/08 6:35pm

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I'll say that Janet is the better dancer, and had a good production team. Beyonce is the better singer. Both are attractive and I have to say that both have went under the knife. Janet is attractive in a sexy, but tomboyish way and Beyonce is attractive in a sexy, but Tina Turner style. She needs to tone down the ego and less is more because she has become overrated.
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Reply #89 posted 12/13/08 2:33am

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LoveSong69 said:

Harlepolis said:



Janet wasn't managed by her father, at least not in her prime. She made it on her own by her own terms

Had it not been for Papa Knowles, this chickenhead's only claim to fame would've been a Sister2Sister cover and rap hooks.


are u kidding? that has got to be the biggest crock of shit said in this thread. janet owes everything to these 4 people -- JIMMY JAM, TERRY LEWIS, RENE ELIZONDO, AND BIG BROTHER MICHAEL JACKSON. janet wouldn't have stood a chance on her own. her music is lyrical shit now since her ex-husband left the picture and stopped ghost-writing for her. beyonce's daddy may be her manager but what connections did he have existing in the industry? none. he wasn't and ain't no clive davis. what other superstars does he manage? its not fair to say thats her only claim to fame when janet jackson is the one that got in for nepotism!


i'm sorry, if you're going to call yourself a singer, you should be able to sing with that said.....beyonce >>>> janet. she blows janets thin whispering ass out the box and she can outperform her.....prime and now. janet, like britney spears, are nothing without their choreographers....they can never come on stage for an impromptu performance of any of their popular songs. beyonce has natural charisma and she may be OTT but it sure beats janets stiff old 1986 dance routines that she is STILL doing in 2008! take away that mic headset she wears and janet is about as talented as any high school cheerleader today in America. she doesnt write her own songs, she doesnt produce, she can't sing a lick, she doesn't choreograph her own moves, and she never sings live. as far as her beauty, thank her plastic surgeons.


DAMN! lol
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