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Reply #30 posted 11/08/08 5:40am

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Janet is an ICON
Beyonce is a miniature replica
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Reply #31 posted 11/08/08 8:42am

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totaldiva said:

As a fan of both artist, I will say this: Janet does not need to compete with these younger artist, they, however, can only hope to have the career that Janet had. Janet Jackson paved the way for Black female artist like Beyonce and Rihanna, so there is no comparison. Janet did what she did well as does Beyonce. Period. I would like the same people who are so invested in stomping on Janet Jackson by silly comparisons do the same for Madonna Vs Christina Aguliera. Vocally, we all know who will win this, but I am sure the Madonna fans (usually the Janet haters) would wage war. If I like more that one artist, I can afford to purchase both CD's.


Madonna fans would go off if that came to pass...quick someone start the thread. lol As much as I love me some Christina, she doesn't compare to Madonna, just like Beyonce doesn't compare to Janet for the same reasons IMO: longevity and influence. Without Janet AND Madonna, would there really be a Beyonce, Britney, Christina, or Rihanna? I don't think so, because they all have incorporated many elements of the originals into their personas and careers. Copies are never better than the real thing.
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Reply #32 posted 11/08/08 10:12am

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Bishop31 said:

Janet just had better Production(Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis) than Beyonce. Janet is not..nor ever has been more "talented" than Beyonce. Beyonce is just guilty of bad Production. Period.


I totally agree, except to add that Janet also had better songs.

I prefer Beyonce in every category, but I'd probably rather listen to a Janet cd.
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Reply #33 posted 11/08/08 10:15am

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Janet has the better package overall, and better songs

Beyonce's vocals are so much stronger than Janet's though.
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Reply #34 posted 11/08/08 10:41am

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totaldiva said:

As a fan of both artist, I will say this: Janet does not need to compete with these younger artist, they, however, can only hope to have the career that Janet had. Janet Jackson paved the way for Black female artist like Beyonce and Rihanna, so there is no comparison. Janet did what she did well as does Beyonce. Period. I would like the same people who are so invested in stomping on Janet Jackson by silly comparisons do the same for Madonna Vs Christina Aguliera. Vocally, we all know who will win this, but I am sure the Madonna fans (usually the Janet haters) would wage war. If I like more that one artist, I can afford to purchase both CD's.


Madonna fans would go off if that came to pass...quick someone start the thread. lol As much as I love me some Christina, she doesn't compare to Madonna, just like Beyonce doesn't compare to Janet for the same reasons IMO: longevity and influence. Without Janet AND Madonna, would there really be a Beyonce, Britney, Christina, or Rihanna? I don't think so, because they all have incorporated many elements of the originals into their personas and careers. Copies are never better than the real thing.


My point exactly.
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Reply #35 posted 11/08/08 11:42am

alphastreet

don't get mad at me but beyonce's recent music videos are better than janet's recent music videos, but they still aren't as great as janet's classic videos.
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Reply #36 posted 11/08/08 12:57pm

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alphastreet said:

don't get mad at me but beyonce's recent music videos are better than janet's recent music videos, but they still aren't as great as janet's classic videos.
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JANET JACKSON PRIME Destory Beyonce Ghetto Chantes
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Reply #37 posted 11/08/08 12:59pm

alphastreet

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alphastreet said:

don't get mad at me but beyonce's recent music videos are better than janet's recent music videos, but they still aren't as great as janet's classic videos.
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JANET JACKSON PRIME Destory Beyonce Ghetto Chantes


of course they do, that's just what I said...
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Reply #38 posted 11/08/08 1:32pm

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Bishop31 said:


People just give Janet a pass 'cause she's a Jackson. hmph! lol


This statement made me giggle like a school girl.

During her prime, Janet in many ways was the anti-jackson. I am not an MJ fan... never cared for the Jacksons... except for a minute Jermaine. But I always liked Janet 'Penny' Jackson.

I really liked Beyonce for awhile as well... but have grown tired of her music and probably won't remember too much of it in another ten years. But I'll still remember the classic Janet albums,

As others have said... Beyonce has a better voice. And that is all folks.
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Reply #39 posted 11/08/08 3:00pm

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NDRU said:

Bishop31 said:

Janet just had better Production(Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis) than Beyonce. Janet is not..nor ever has been more "talented" than Beyonce. Beyonce is just guilty of bad Production. Period.


I totally agree, except to add that Janet also had better songs.

I prefer Beyonce in every category, but I'd probably rather listen to a Janet cd.


And this is because of the great Production she had. People wonder why her music sucks these days. It's because she no longer has a strong team behind her. Do people actually believe that Janet was the one driving that "Hit Machine" in the 80's? lol

Music/Lyrics - Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis
Choreography - Paula Abdul

I'm sorry. What exactly is she more talented than Beyonce at?
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Reply #40 posted 11/08/08 3:34pm

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NDRU said:



I totally agree, except to add that Janet also had better songs.

I prefer Beyonce in every category, but I'd probably rather listen to a Janet cd.


And this is because of the great Production she had. People wonder why her music sucks these days. It's because she no longer has a strong team behind her. Do people actually believe that Janet was the one driving that "Hit Machine" in the 80's? lol

Music/Lyrics - Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis
Choreography - Paula Abdul

I'm sorry. What exactly is she more talented than Beyonce at?


yep, that's exactly it, I just wanted to point out that JJ & TL weren't just producing songs well, they were writing good songs to produce well

Choreography/dancing is one area I won't really judge, since I don't pay close attention. I will say I think Beyonce dances sexier, and Janet has that sort of angry style of over-exertive dancing that was big in the 80's. But that's not to say she doesn't dance as well as Beyonce, I don't really know.
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Reply #41 posted 11/08/08 4:04pm

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first of all when it comes to dancing. JANET TAKES THE CAKE. sorry but beyonce could NEVER put together rhythm nation. NOR perform it. IF she did it would look REALLY GHETTO.

Beyonce may have a powerful and more vocal range but her voice is NOT pleasant.

She is DEFINITLY NOT BETTER LOOKing.

WE ARE COMPARING JANETS PRIME TO BEYONCES PRIME. NOT janet's lastest album to beyonce's latest album.

Janet's prime was during Rhythm nation to the janet album. AND IT HAS TOPPED OVER ANYTHING BEYONCE HAS DONE.

beyonce can perform. BUT she LOOK CRAZY HALF THE TIME. She is Definitly NOT as sexy as janet was during janet's prime. DURING janet's ONE video IF.

"IF" is one of the sexiest videos. and janet was NOT HALF NAKED popping her crotch or wearing a letard. THATS THE THING WITH JANET, she doesn't have to try so hard. She came out with baggy pants and a belly t-shirt and looked very sexy. BEYONCE has to wear booty shorts, and a bikini top, and do Jamiacan, Island dances. SO ACTUALLY beyonce is stilling her dance styles from those women from the islands i think its called "Whinning"

anyways beyonce copies so much is unbelievable. SO JUST FOR THAT ALONE SHE IS NOT BETTER. NOT IN MUSIC, CAREER, LOOKS, STYLE ect.

janet during her prime was HOT... But see i think a lot of people forgot. I Think people have a hate or strong dislike for janet. So you would deny her talent.

and by the way, THAT JACKSON name did NOT get her this far. because look at LATOYA JACKSON AND REBBIE. lol lol lol They are jacksons as well and their careers went NOWHERE. so stop using that jackson name to take away janet's talent
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Reply #42 posted 11/08/08 5:13pm

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I don't like Janet's early albums. I don't see what's so special about them.

Looks, Sex appeal, Voice and Videos go to Beyonce.
Style, Dance and Lyrics go to Janet.

The acting I don't know. I've seen Beyonce act in only one film and that was Goldmember. I've seen Janet in The Nutty Proffessor and the one with Tupac.
Can't remember who was better.

I only like a few songs from both of them. The win goes to Janet, barely.
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Reply #43 posted 11/08/08 8:58pm

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TotalAlisa said:

first of all when it comes to dancing. JANET TAKES THE CAKE. sorry but beyonce could NEVER put together rhythm nation. NOR perform it. IF she did it would look REALLY GHETTO.

Beyonce may have a powerful and more vocal range but her voice is NOT pleasant.

She is DEFINITLY NOT BETTER LOOKing.

WE ARE COMPARING JANETS PRIME TO BEYONCES PRIME. NOT janet's lastest album to beyonce's latest album.

Janet's prime was during Rhythm nation to the janet album. AND IT HAS TOPPED OVER ANYTHING BEYONCE HAS DONE.


Alisa, you have to remember that Janet had Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis. She didn't do it alone. Her Prime was her "Prime" for a reason. She had Outstanding production. Don't get me wrong, I like Janet. I really do. But, I really believe she's kinda overrated because of her Producers. She's a one trick pony...& her dancing is her meal ticket. lol
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Reply #44 posted 11/08/08 9:23pm

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curioso said:

I don't like Janet's early albums. I don't see what's so special about them.

Looks, Sex appeal, Voice and Videos go to Beyonce.
Style, Dance and Lyrics go to Janet.

The acting I don't know. I've seen Beyonce act in only one film and that was Goldmember. I've seen Janet in The Nutty Proffessor and the one with Tupac.
Can't remember who was better.

I only like a few songs from both of them. The win goes to Janet, barely.



Videos

Beyonce



Janet clearly wins.


Just IN the IF video alone, beyonce has NEVER reached this type of beauty or appeal.


Looks and Sexappeal and style

beyonce
Tries To hard, have to be half naked


Janet wins this again. NOT ONLY THE FACE, but the body. I mean WHAT FEMALE celebrity could have cut abs and still look feminine and beautiful. NOT Even beyonce could achieve this
so beautiful and just simple.

Dance

Beyonce
SHE LITERALLY LOOKS CRAZY AND POSSED When she performs NOT only that she does weird dance moves that make her look mechanic and her face looks crazy.



janet wins this AGAIN




Sorry but you must have either forgot about janet's WHOLE entire career or you are under the age of 15 and do not know anything about janet jackson.

IF you compare janets first half of her career all the up to velvet rope sorry but she beats beyonce any day.
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Reply #45 posted 11/08/08 9:25pm

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TotalAlisa said:

first of all when it comes to dancing. JANET TAKES THE CAKE. sorry but beyonce could NEVER put together rhythm nation. NOR perform it. IF she did it would look REALLY GHETTO.

Beyonce may have a powerful and more vocal range but her voice is NOT pleasant.

She is DEFINITLY NOT BETTER LOOKing.

WE ARE COMPARING JANETS PRIME TO BEYONCES PRIME. NOT janet's lastest album to beyonce's latest album.

Janet's prime was during Rhythm nation to the janet album. AND IT HAS TOPPED OVER ANYTHING BEYONCE HAS DONE.


Alisa, you have to remember that Janet had Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis. She didn't do it alone. Her Prime was her "Prime" for a reason. She had Outstanding production. Don't get me wrong, I like Janet. I really do. But, I really believe she's kinda overrated because of her Producers. She's a one trick pony...& her dancing is her meal ticket. lol

okay regardless to production she looks better, dances better, has better videos, better style and this does NOT include music.

So really JANET WINS. even if beyonce had better production janet wins in the other categories. lol
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Reply #46 posted 11/08/08 9:26pm

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Bishop31 said:

TotalAlisa said:

first of all when it comes to dancing. JANET TAKES THE CAKE. sorry but beyonce could NEVER put together rhythm nation. NOR perform it. IF she did it would look REALLY GHETTO.

Beyonce may have a powerful and more vocal range but her voice is NOT pleasant.

She is DEFINITLY NOT BETTER LOOKing.

WE ARE COMPARING JANETS PRIME TO BEYONCES PRIME. NOT janet's lastest album to beyonce's latest album.

Janet's prime was during Rhythm nation to the janet album. AND IT HAS TOPPED OVER ANYTHING BEYONCE HAS DONE.


Alisa, you have to remember that Janet had Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis. She didn't do it alone. Her Prime was her "Prime" for a reason. She had Outstanding production. Don't get me wrong, I like Janet. I really do. But, I really believe she's kinda overrated because of her Producers. She's a one trick pony...& her dancing is her meal ticket. lol


Lmao ok no one is saying janet did it only by herself were talking prime not now and beyonce does she do it only i mean she don't write her own music doesn't know how to dance

And if the jackson name help janet

Jay-z made beyonce cool

And she bite off of j.lo glamor style

cause we all know beyonce was a hoochie mama from downsouth wih no style
lol lol





I doubt that jimmy and terry told janet how to live her life yeah they credit her sound but she had style

Papa knowles and jay is leading beyonce way biggrin
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Reply #47 posted 11/08/08 9:30pm

tamewar

Now the thing that turn me off about beyonce is her having to explin why is she being sexy ugh the lord doesn't mind cause i'm entertaining is it that serious no

Even if janet is way oversex now neutral lol

Prime during her janet. era check the interviews the chick is cool cool
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Reply #48 posted 11/08/08 9:49pm

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Silly Comparison. They are both talented strong females in all the categories listed except for singing, LOL.

The better comparison would be which FATHER/MANAGER did a better job getting them hooked up in the industry. I would say Joe Jackson did a better job and there seems to be less people that hate on him than do dispise Matthew Knowles.
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Reply #49 posted 11/09/08 12:25am

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Silly Comparison. They are both talented strong females in all the categories listed except for singing, LOL.

The better comparison would be which FATHER/MANAGER did a better job getting them hooked up in the industry. I would say Joe Jackson did a better job and there seems to be less people that hate on him than do dispise Matthew Knowles.


Janet wasn't managed by her father, at least not in her prime. She made it on her own by her own terms

Had it not been for Papa Knowles, this chickenhead's only claim to fame would've been a Sister2Sister cover and rap hooks.
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Reply #50 posted 11/09/08 2:34am

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Style Janet
dance draw
video Janet
Music Janet
lyrics Janet
looks Janet
Sex appeal Beyonce
acting haven't seen any movies of either although I liked Janet in "Fame"

By the way I may not be very objective because I like Janet and I don't really like Beyonce
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Reply #51 posted 11/09/08 4:53am

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I was about to say Beyonce but seeing all the footage posted in here comparing the two I have to agree with Janet. I didnt realise how much Janet did influence Beyonce, but it also shows how badly Michael influenced Janet.
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Reply #52 posted 11/09/08 9:22am

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Evvy said:

Janet is an ICON
Beyonce is a miniature replica


I agree that Janet in her prime is a million times better than Beyonce, but I don't see how Janet has influenced Beyonce so much like everyone is saying. Beyonce did copy the "Rhythm Nation" routine from Janet in her VMA performance a few years ago, but other than that no.

Beyonce is a wannabe Tina Turner if anything. I'd also say she's been heavily influenced by Diana Ross as well, but Janet? I don't see it as much. I never think of Janet when I see Beyonce, but I always think of Tina when I see Beyonce perform.
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Reply #53 posted 11/09/08 9:54am

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Style janet
dance janet
video janet
Music janet
lyrics janet
looks draw
Sex appeal janet
acting draw
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Reply #54 posted 11/09/08 10:03am

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TotalAlisa said:


and by the way, THAT JACKSON name did NOT get her this far. because look at LATOYA JACKSON AND REBBIE. lol lol lol They are jacksons as well and their careers went NOWHERE. so stop using that jackson name to take away janet's talent


true, though the fact that we know the names LaToya & Rebbie, and that they both had albums, say something about the power of the jackson name.

But you're right, Jermaine pushed to have a career and for a while he did. Janet too. She pushed the hardest, maybe even harder than Michael, who seems to have lost interest in the whole thing.

There's no doubt that if she wasn't somewhat talented & hugely motivated that she couldn't have lasted as long as she has.
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Reply #55 posted 11/09/08 11:19am

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I agree that she cares for music more than michael has for over a decade.
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Reply #56 posted 11/09/08 11:39am

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Evvy said:

Janet is an ICON
Beyonce is a miniature replica


I agree that Janet in her prime is a million times better than Beyonce, but I don't see how Janet has influenced Beyonce so much like everyone is saying. Beyonce did copy the "Rhythm Nation" routine from Janet in her VMA performance a few years ago, but other than that no.

Beyonce is a wannabe Tina Turner if anything. I'd also say she's been heavily influenced by Diana Ross as well, but Janet? I don't see it as much. I never think of Janet when I see Beyonce, but I always think of Tina when I see Beyonce perform.


I was always trying to figure out who Beyonce's moves remind me of and now you mention it you are right:Tina Turner
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Reply #57 posted 11/09/08 11:45am

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As a fan of both artist, I will say this: Janet does not need to compete with these younger artist, they, however, can only hope to have the career that Janet had. Janet Jackson paved the way for Black female artist like Beyonce and Rihanna, so there is no comparison. Janet did what she did well as does Beyonce. Period. I would like the same people who are so invested in stomping on Janet Jackson by silly comparisons do the same for Madonna Vs Christina Aguliera. Vocally, we all know who will win this, but I am sure the Madonna fans (usually the Janet haters) would wage war. If I like more that one artist, I can afford to purchase both CD's.
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Hey I am a Madonna fan and I like Janet too and no I don't like Beyonce
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Reply #58 posted 11/09/08 11:59am

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I was about to say Beyonce but seeing all the footage posted in here comparing the two I have to agree with Janet. I didnt realise how much Janet did influence Beyonce, but it also shows how badly Michael influenced Janet.

i know its been years since janet was on top. but people seem to forgot what janet accomplished and what she did. and beyonce has NOT and NEVER captured that.
I knew i had to pull out the footage because i think for the most part the younger generation knows nothing abut janet jackson and all they see all day is beyonce.

and the thing is beyonce's Sex appeal canNOT compare to janet's sexapeal during janet's prime. Janet did NOT have to try so hard, and sing about how great she is, and how cool she is, and how she the hottest one of the block.

Beyonce has to hype herself up and tell people how sexy and beautiful she is. Janet does NOT.
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Reply #59 posted 11/09/08 1:34pm

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TotalAlisa said:

Arnotts said:

I was about to say Beyonce but seeing all the footage posted in here comparing the two I have to agree with Janet. I didnt realise how much Janet did influence Beyonce, but it also shows how badly Michael influenced Janet.

i know its been years since janet was on top. but people seem to forgot what janet accomplished and what she did. and beyonce has NOT and NEVER captured that.
I knew i had to pull out the footage because i think for the most part the younger generation knows nothing abut janet jackson and all they see all day is beyonce.

and the thing is beyonce's Sex appeal canNOT compare to janet's sexapeal during janet's prime. Janet did NOT have to try so hard, and sing about how great she is, and how cool she is, and how she the hottest one of the block.

Beyonce has to hype herself up and tell people how sexy and beautiful she is. Janet does NOT.


I voted Beyonce on the sex appeal because Janet to me looked beautiful during her prime (I am thinking about the "Janet" videos) but not necessarily sexy. Just very pretty. Beyonce on the other hand looked sexy especially when she was younger. It is just my personal opinion.
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