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PrintablePatrickS77 said: Well, either that or she's a businesswoman who cuts her losses!
You missed the point (deliberately?). She could cancel the gigs without resorting to bullshit theatrics. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Yeah, but with being sick probably some insurance kicks in... it doesn't if she just says "Fuck you, I wont do this gig!"! And again, we don't know if she truely wasn't sick... maybe it just came in handy to get out of unwanted shows! [Edited 11/6/08 7:56am] | |
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I would assume insurance companies would be pretty wise to those kind of tricks. And besides, there are so many artists that have just cancelled poor selling shows in the past (including Prince). The fake illness was unnecessary, but totally in keeping with her character. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Well, at this point the "fake illness" is still just an assumption... no fact! | |
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PatrickS77 said: Well, at this point the "fake illness" is still just an assumption... no fact!
It's cute that you're trying to maintain a front of loyalty, but I suspect the truth is beginning to dawn on you. Still, best to keep those thoughts quiet for the moment, right?  “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Jeez, you still have no idea about me... I'm open to everything, but unlike you I don't make my assumptions or suspicions or whatever out to be a fact! I'm not saying that it's impossible she faked her illness, even though I don't believe it (I do believe though that poor ticket sales are the reason for not rescheduling these shows), but why get mad about something I don't have any proof for? | |
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Nah, you're still avoiding the obvious conclusions. But the fact that you're acknowledging the possibility of fakery shows progress. I'm proud of you.  “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Yall are so fickle and petty that yall cant even get over this. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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Oh fuck off... don't put words in my mouth! Again! You don't know me! | |
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OH NO WE CAN'T HAVE THIS IN A JANET THREAD-
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Evvy said: OH NO WE CAN'T HAVE THIS IN A JANET THREAD-
PATRICK- take a deep breath- calm down MIDNIGHTMOVER- do what Patrick said- twice Paisley- come with me... now carry on! but but .. . . .  Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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Timmy84 said: StarCat said:
about sums it up doesn't it? | |
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StarCat said: Timmy84 said: about sums it up doesn't it? Yeah Jermaine's a controlling dwarf. | |
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CrozzaUK said: I was at that concert, and while Kylie's honesty was appreciated - there was absolutely no information given at the time about rescheduling the concert. we were simply told that the concert wouldnt be going on. A lot of fans left the arena pissed off, as she played for like 40 mins. It was only a few days later when people had vented their fury that the show was rescheduled.
I respect anoybody's right not to have to divulge their personal medical problems. However using faked illness as an excuse for poor tix sales is unforgivable. I agree and really hope that she isn't found to be faking this because I'll be very disappointed. I remember back in 2004 when Britney Spears supposedly got a knee injury and had to cancel the entire US leg of her Onyx Tour because she had to have knee repair surgery, yet pictures of her surfaced shortly after this happened of her kneeling down in a store with a huge orthopedic brace on her leg. I've never had knee surgery, but I've done several knee and other orthepedic surgeries on animals and know that they aren't supposed to be doing any major movement for a couple of weeks, sometimes a month or two, and must remain in the brace until the doctor says it can be removed. I'm pretty sure it's not much different with human knee surgery. After it was reported that she had either just recently undergone the surgery or was about to undergo it, there she was on Polaroid film kneeling down and bending her knee. To this day, there is no doubt in my mind that she faked a knee injury to get out of her tour because she obviously wanted to be able to spend more time with K-Fed instead putting on a great tour for her loyal fans, but she's always had half-truths and deceit as key elements for the majority of her career. Just amazed how many people still praise her, when she's always just been a less talented, poor carbon copy of Janet and Madonna.  Prince Rogers Nelson
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PatrickS77 said: I'm not so sure of the financial failure... of course, they didn't make the money they expected, but with the 9 known shows she pulled in almost 8 Mio dollars! Granted... that's probably peanuts to her, but still!
Artist: Janet Jackson, Hedspin Venue: General Motors Place City/State: Vancouver, British Columbia Event Date: Sept. 10, 2008 Gross Sales: $927,098 Attend/Capacity: 8,941 / 11,074 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Artist: Janet Jackson, Nelly Venue: Oracle Arena City/State: Oakland, California Event Date: Sept. 13, 2008 Gross Sales: $809,478 Attend/Capacity: 9,430 / 12,282 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Artist: Janet Jackson, LL Cool J Venue: Staples Center City/State: Los Angeles, California Event Date: Sept. 17, 2008 Gross Sales: $1,181,045 Attend/Capacity: 12,109 / 13,025 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Artist: Janet Jackson Venue: Mandalay Bay Events Center City/State: Las Vegas, Nevada Event Date: Sept. 19, 2008 Gross Sales: $1,027,602 Attend/Capacity: 8,065 / 8,168 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Prices: $300.75, $55.75 Artist: Janet Jackson, LL Cool J Venue: Allstate Arena City/State: Rosemont, Illinois Event Date: Sept. 25, 2008 Gross Sales: $792,139 Attend/Capacity: 9,519 / 11,541 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Prices: $129.75, 24.75 Artist: Janet Jackson Venue: Verizon Center City/State: Washington, D.C. Event Date: Oct. 15, 2008 Gross Sales: $1,077,846 Attend/Capacity: 9,720 / 10,389 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Prices: $129.75, $49.75 Artist: Janet Jackson Venue: Izod Center City/State: East Rutherford, N.J. Event Date: Oct. 17, 2008 Gross Sales: $883,472 Attend/Capacity: 10,865 / 14,247 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Prices: $365.76, $12 Artist: Janet Jackson, LL Cool J, DJ Playboy Venue: Toyota Center City/State: Houston, Texas Event Date: Oct. 21, 2008 Gross Sales: $548,039 Attend/Capacity: 7,090 / 7,470 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Prices: $124.75, $49.75 Artist: Janet Jackson, LL Cool J, DJ Playboy Venue: American Airlines Center City/State: Dallas, Texas Event Date: Oct. 22, 2008 Gross Sales: $532,393 Attend/Capacity: 7,729 / 11,640 Shows/Sellouts: 1 /0 Prices: $124.75, $49.75 TOTAL Gross (so far) 7,779,112 Attendence (so far) 83,468 Finally some numbers! Looks like Dallas was the worst show so far percentage-wise--only 66% capacity. | |
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estelle81 said: CrozzaUK said: I was at that concert, and while Kylie's honesty was appreciated - there was absolutely no information given at the time about rescheduling the concert. we were simply told that the concert wouldnt be going on. A lot of fans left the arena pissed off, as she played for like 40 mins. It was only a few days later when people had vented their fury that the show was rescheduled.
I respect anoybody's right not to have to divulge their personal medical problems. However using faked illness as an excuse for poor tix sales is unforgivable. I agree and really hope that she isn't found to be faking this because I'll be very disappointed. I remember back in 2004 when Britney Spears supposedly got a knee injury and had to cancel the entire US leg of her Onyx Tour because she had to have knee repair surgery, yet pictures of her surfaced shortly after this happened of her kneeling down in a store with a huge orthopedic brace on her leg. I've never had knee surgery, but I've done several knee and other orthepedic surgeries on animals and know that they aren't supposed to be doing any major movement for a couple of weeks, sometimes a month or two, and must remain in the brace until the doctor says it can be removed. I'm pretty sure it's not much different with human knee surgery. After it was reported that she had either just recently undergone the surgery or was about to undergo it, there she was on Polaroid film kneeling down and bending her knee. To this day, there is no doubt in my mind that she faked a knee injury to get out of her tour because she obviously wanted to be able to spend more time with K-Fed instead putting on a great tour for her loyal fans, but she's always had half-truths and deceit as key elements for the majority of her career. Just amazed how many people still praise her, when she's always just been a less talented, poor carbon copy of Janet and Madonna. the knee story is true. it happened on the set of the video she was filming with snoop dog for the catwoman movie. the video was never finished. outrageous was the single they were going to release. just remembered which song it was for edit. [Edited 11/6/08 11:30am] You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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During the show in Moline, Illinois, Spears suffered a fall during "(I Got That) Boom Boom" and injured her knee, which caused the show to come to a halt without an encore. Spears went on stage and told the audience "I hurt my leg really bad, sorry I cannot finish the show. But thank you, Moline". Shows in Chicago and Detroit were postponed to the end of the first leg of the tour. The show in Cleveland was postponed to the summer leg because of illness, and canceled altogether when the summer shows were scrapped.
The third leg of the tour, which would have been a second North American trek, as well as Asia and Australia, was canceled because of the injury resulting from a fall on the set of Britney's video shoot for "Outrageous" in Queens, NY. She underwent arthroscopic knee surgery at a New York hospital to remove floating cartilage. Spears would not perform onstage again until The M+M's Tour in 2007. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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accountabiity
responsibility people i'd never trust to see in concert because of cancellations & excuses Michael Jackson Whitney Houston Mariah Carey Christina Aguilera and now possibly Janet Jackson.  | |
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paisleypark4 said: Evvy said: OH NO WE CAN'T HAVE THIS IN A JANET THREAD-
PATRICK- take a deep breath- calm down MIDNIGHTMOVER- do what Patrick said- twice Paisley- come with me... now carry on! but but .. . . . no back talk or i'll have to get the whip out,,, LOVE HARD. | |
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StarCat said: accountabiity
responsibility people i'd never trust to see in concert because of cancellations & excuses Michael Jackson Whitney Houston Mariah Carey Christina Aguilera and now possibly Janet Jackson. Possibly Janet? I definitely don't trust Janet now. Michael too. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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StarCat said: accountabiity
responsibility people i'd never trust to see in concert because of cancellations & excuses Michael Jackson Whitney Houston Mariah Carey Christina Aguilera and now possibly Janet Jackson. I remember in 1999,Whitney brought her "My Love Is Your Love" tour to the Bay Area.Fans were in their seats waiting for the show to begin,but it was announced that the show was cancelled due to "illness" She never rescheduled and hasn't been back to the Bay Area since.People were pissed at her! On a local radio stations,fans were calling in bitching.The DJ said "Hey Whitney....it's NOT right and it's NOT okay".
Anyways...I'm just glad that Madonna doesn't play these games.I take concerts very seriously. | |
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JackieBlue said: StarCat said: accountabiity
responsibility people i'd never trust to see in concert because of cancellations & excuses Michael Jackson Whitney Houston Mariah Carey Christina Aguilera and now possibly Janet Jackson. Possibly Janet? I definitely don't trust Janet now. Michael too. ok i'll commit. now JANET too. | |
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SoulAlive said: StarCat said: accountabiity
responsibility people i'd never trust to see in concert because of cancellations & excuses Michael Jackson Whitney Houston Mariah Carey Christina Aguilera and now possibly Janet Jackson. I remember in 1999,Whitney brought her "My Love Is Your Love" tour to the Bay Area.Fans were in their seats waiting for the show to begin,but it was announced that the show was cancelled due to "illness" She never rescheduled and hasn't been back to the Bay Area since.People were pissed at her! On a local radio stations,fans were calling in bitching.The DJ said "Hey Whitney....it's NOT right and it's NOT okay".
Anyways...I'm just glad that Madonna doesn't play these games.I take concerts very seriously. 
and to think Janet Jackson was charging up to $500. and people wonder their fans went. you're not there for your fans, then the favour will be returned and you have no one to blame. because at the end of the day, be it bad album, cancelled show, record execs screwing up; your name is the one people remember. or in this case, forget. | |
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Well in light of all recent events and cancellations, anybody know if any shows that she actually did were filmed for a DVD release?
any chance? RIP 1958-2016 Prince  RIP 1947-2016 David Bowie
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xperience319 said: Well in light of all recent events and cancellations, anybody know if any shows that she actually did were filmed for a DVD release?
any chance? All of her shows were obviously filmed for the in-house screens, but no show was professionally filmed! | |
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sextonseven said: PatrickS77 said: I'm not so sure of the financial failure... of course, they didn't make the money they expected, but with the 9 known shows she pulled in almost 8 Mio dollars! Granted... that's probably peanuts to her, but still!
Artist: Janet Jackson, Hedspin Venue: General Motors Place City/State: Vancouver, British Columbia Event Date: Sept. 10, 2008 Gross Sales: $927,098 Attend/Capacity: 8,941 / 11,074 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Artist: Janet Jackson, Nelly Venue: Oracle Arena City/State: Oakland, California Event Date: Sept. 13, 2008 Gross Sales: $809,478 Attend/Capacity: 9,430 / 12,282 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Artist: Janet Jackson, LL Cool J Venue: Staples Center City/State: Los Angeles, California Event Date: Sept. 17, 2008 Gross Sales: $1,181,045 Attend/Capacity: 12,109 / 13,025 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Artist: Janet Jackson Venue: Mandalay Bay Events Center City/State: Las Vegas, Nevada Event Date: Sept. 19, 2008 Gross Sales: $1,027,602 Attend/Capacity: 8,065 / 8,168 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Prices: $300.75, $55.75 Artist: Janet Jackson, LL Cool J Venue: Allstate Arena City/State: Rosemont, Illinois Event Date: Sept. 25, 2008 Gross Sales: $792,139 Attend/Capacity: 9,519 / 11,541 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Prices: $129.75, 24.75 Artist: Janet Jackson Venue: Verizon Center City/State: Washington, D.C. Event Date: Oct. 15, 2008 Gross Sales: $1,077,846 Attend/Capacity: 9,720 / 10,389 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Prices: $129.75, $49.75 Artist: Janet Jackson Venue: Izod Center City/State: East Rutherford, N.J. Event Date: Oct. 17, 2008 Gross Sales: $883,472 Attend/Capacity: 10,865 / 14,247 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Prices: $365.76, $12 Artist: Janet Jackson, LL Cool J, DJ Playboy Venue: Toyota Center City/State: Houston, Texas Event Date: Oct. 21, 2008 Gross Sales: $548,039 Attend/Capacity: 7,090 / 7,470 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Prices: $124.75, $49.75 Artist: Janet Jackson, LL Cool J, DJ Playboy Venue: American Airlines Center City/State: Dallas, Texas Event Date: Oct. 22, 2008 Gross Sales: $532,393 Attend/Capacity: 7,729 / 11,640 Shows/Sellouts: 1 /0 Prices: $124.75, $49.75 TOTAL Gross (so far) 7,779,112 Attendence (so far) 83,468 Finally some numbers! Looks like Dallas was the worst show so far percentage-wise--only 66% capacity. then put that against the entire cost of the tour | |
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