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Printablelastdecember said: Prince is someone that KNOWS he has fans that travel around the moon to see him, he even acknowledged in an interview that when he plays a gig in minneapolis, alot of peeps arent from Minneapolis, they are from neighboring cities and sometimes overseas. The argument that SALES are the reason for cancelling, well all i can say is that is the worst and lamest excuse for any artist, the reason this doesnt fly is because artists have often played to half full places and less, just do the damn show, swallow your pride.
Well, that didn't bother him when he cancelled Dublin within a weeks notice without explanation whatsoever! And the rumour was too that not enough tickets were sold.... which is kinda bs considering he sold 55.000 tickets in an 80.000 seater... in Ireland of all places! [Edited 11/5/08 16:00pm] | |
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I heard on the radio station this morning that the shows are cancelled due to poor ticket sales. It was mentioned that maybe her arena tour days are over. 
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moderatorluv4u said: I heard on the radio station this morning that the shows are cancelled due to poor ticket sales. It was mentioned that maybe her arena tour days are over.
On future tours,she may have to play smaller venues. | |
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all I know for sure is that i lost money on a hotel reservation and my ticket because even though I got a refund- ticketmaster fees are non-refundable
- i'll never do that again- ever for Ms. Jan- and i've been a fan for 15+ years LOVE HARD. | |
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lastdecember said: good points and she doesnt owe any excuse, however, her or ANY artist that knows (and she knows) that you have a base of fans that travel, book flights etc..just to come see you alot of things are not refunded, first of all, ticket charges are not refunded, sure it may be about 10 bucks, but all i hear on this forum is people bitching about cd's sucking that they spent 10 bucks on, so it is what it is. A cancelled show is a cancelled show, shit happens, and even if its true her reasons, it really doesnt matter, people will think what they will think because of past things that have gone one, its really just a case of the boy who cried wolf. But the fact is that the shows that went on, were the ones that were "profitable", and the ones that didnt werent. At the end of the day its up to the artist to do what they want to fix a situation, and just live with the outcomes.
Janet definitely could have handled it better, but that's on her and her concert promoters to deal with in the end. If she was having poor ticket sales, like many speculate, than she should have done what Madonna did on one of her shows during her last tour according to a friend of mine. She said that they had upper seats, but the venue they were in was practically empty, so Madonna just had everybody moved to the floor. They basically got floor seats for the price of nosebleeds they said, so I was happy for them, but sad for all those people who had shelled out big bucks for floor seats. Oh, well, sucks for them. 
I didn't get refunded $18, but most of that was in taxes, which you seldom ever get refunded on any item you purchase. Uncle Sam is going to get his cut; he doesn't care if you missed the show, the flight, or whatever, because he's getting his money regardless. I live almost 4 hours away from Fort Lauderdale and had room reservations, which most hotels allow you to cancel at least 24 hours or more in advance without charging you anything...something I know for a fact, because most of my friends work for hotels and deal with this on a daily basis. My show was cancelled on that Saturday and it had been scheduled for Tuesday, so that gave me more than 24 hours to call the 1-800 number, which is manned 24 hours, and cancel my reservation. I also had a rental car reserved and their policies are pretty much the same. Originally, I was going to go to the Atlanta show which is 8 hours away from me, and yes, I was going to drive. Personally, I refuse to fly anywhere with the way airlines are fucking people nowadays. I would rather pay the extra money in gas and not have to worry about flight delays and last minute cancellations, paranoid airport security protocols, and being cramped up in crappy, overpriced, coach seats, but that's just me. I'll just rent a car and find other people going to the concert in my area and we can split the costs and it saves everybody money and I get to meet new people who have similar interests to me. I'm soo used to traveling that I honestly would rather take the Amtrak over flying anyday...even the Greyhound (which is awful) is a cheaper way of travel, so if people want to spend the big money on the more expensive (and nowadays unpredictable) form of transportation, than that's really on them, because there are always other options. Seriously, if Kylie had decided not to honor any of her cancelled shows after her cancer battle, I wouldn't have been mad at her and held it against her and I'm not a big Kylie fan, so if some of her fans would have because they chose to be selfish assholes than that's sad, because shit happens but that's life, so accept it and move on because bitching about it isn't going to make it happen in the end. The world isn't going to come to an end because some artist cancelled their tour. Just my  Prince Rogers Nelson
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estelle81 said: The world isn't going to come to an end because some artist cancelled their tour. Just my
that's true but - lesson learned- I have permenantly curbed my fandom as far her concerts- even if I wanted to go in my hometown- the world may not end but she aint gone be getting my for her million dolla collectionLOVE HARD. | |
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Evvy said: estelle81 said: The world isn't going to come to an end because some artist cancelled their tour. Just my
that's true but - lesson learned- I have permenantly curbed my fandom as far her concerts- even if I wanted to go in my hometown- the world may not end but she aint gone be getting my for her million dolla collection 
 When I got my refund, I was like, "Sorry Janet, but I guess you didn't want my money." If she hadn't refunded the tickets, which I've heard has happened to some fans of some artists, than I could totally understand people being pissed off, but my money was returned to my checking account 3 days after the cancelled show. Losing money on plane tickets and getting mad at Janet is something that I don't understand.
I used to fly JetBlue (best airline in the world IMO) all the time and it's very clear at some point in the documents if they are refundable or non-refundable tickets...main reason I don't fly much anymore. I refuse to shell out $200 for a one-way ticket when 'NON-REFUNDABLE' is printed anywhere on the paperwork, but that's just me. $200 for just a one-way ticket...uh, yeah no? I can just suck up my pride and loathing for the Greyhound and get round trip tickets; or just rent a car for less than that. What if she is able to do the show, but your flight gets delayed or cancelled and causes you to miss the show? Now, not only would you be out the concert ticket money, but you just bought non-refundable tickets...like I said, shit happens. Prince Rogers Nelson
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xperience319 said:[quote] ehuffnsd said: midnightmover said: i know Josh will disagree with me, but when Janet got "sick" it was very shady. from White Diamond [Edited 11/4/08 11:48am] wow im not a kylie fan (altho i am aussie so a casual fan by default), but that was great to watch that level of professionalism when she clearly couldn't go on that night. she told the audience whats up and sang an extra song before leaving. Im sure the audience didn't leave with a high degree of disappointment that night. Janet should take note of such honesty in front of your fanbase. If you are telling the truth you should be forgiven. (unless it is cuz of ticket sales) I was at that concert, and while Kylie's honesty was appreciated - there was absolutely no information given at the time about rescheduling the concert. we were simply told that the concert wouldnt be going on. A lot of fans left the arena pissed off, as she played for like 40 mins. It was only a few days later when people had vented their fury that the show was rescheduled. I respect anoybody's right not to have to divulge their personal medical problems. Howevder using faked illness as an excuse for poor tix sales is unforgivable. | |
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CrozzaUK said: I was at that concert, and while Kylie's honesty was appreciated - there was absolutely no information given at the time about rescheduling the concert. we were simply told that the concert wouldnt be going on. A lot of fans left the arena pissed off, as she played for like 40 mins. It was only a few days later when people had vented their fury that the show was rescheduled.
I respect anoybody's right not to have to divulge their personal medical problems. Howevder using faked illness as an excuse for poor tix sales is unforgivable. ^^And what did happen?? She played 40 mins but I guess you paid the full price for the show and didn't get a refund, right?? So I kinda would be pissed off about that too! Or where the tickets good for the rescheduled show? | |
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PatrickS77 said: CrozzaUK said: I was at that concert, and while Kylie's honesty was appreciated - there was absolutely no information given at the time about rescheduling the concert. we were simply told that the concert wouldnt be going on. A lot of fans left the arena pissed off, as she played for like 40 mins. It was only a few days later when people had vented their fury that the show was rescheduled.
I respect anoybody's right not to have to divulge their personal medical problems. Howevder using faked illness as an excuse for poor tix sales is unforgivable. ^^And what did happen?? She played 40 mins but I guess you paid the full price for the show and didn't get a refund, right?? So I kinda would be pissed off about that too! Or where the tickets good for the rescheduled show? No she did reschedule - but only after fans had vented their annoyance for a few days. The feeling was that she'd done 40 mins in order to make it justifiable not to have to refund the ticket price. If your feeling that ill, why even try and perform - just reschedule or refund. In the end she re-scheduled the show | |
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So you did get to see the rescheduled show with the same ticket?? But people had to complain first, before it happened?
"If your feeling that ill, why even try and perform" Yeah, that's kinda what is funny for me to... I mean, she's been on that stage and performed for 40 mins... even when she decided that she can't do the show she still did one more song... why not continue through the rest of the show, once you're up there? Seems kinda strange to me! Either I'm sick and won't even leave the bed, let alone hit the stage or I'm sick and pull my guts together and pull through! | |
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So now the diet book has been scrapped too? Understandable I guess. 
SOURCE:(WENN) JANET JACKSON’s plans to release a diet book have been shelved, because the singer has piled on the pounds, according to reports. The 42 year old had signed a deal to share her weightloss secrets with fans after shedding an astonishing 27 kilograms (60 pounds) in just four months back in 2006. But sources claim the pop superstar has added pounds during her current Rock Witchu tour, prompting her publishing bosses to back out of the deal. An insider tells the National Enquirer, "It has been postponed indefinitely. It was a mutual decision." Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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I don't think the diet book was a good idea anyway,espcially since Janet usually gains back the weight when she's not on tour | |
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so is her tour officially over now? Was last Saturday's show the final show? This has got to be the shortest tour of 2008 | |
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SoulAlive said: I don't think the diet book was a good idea anyway,espcially since Janet usually gains back the weight when she's not on tour
I was surprised when I heard but thought, what the heck.
At my show after the crowd settled a bit, someone turned to another fan and said, “She’s been eating!” Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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SoulAlive said: so is her tour officially over now? Was last Saturday's show the final show? This has got to be the shortest tour of 2008
I think so. She went out with a bang at the Garden. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: SoulAlive said: so is her tour officially over now? Was last Saturday's show the final show? This has got to be the shortest tour of 2008
I think so. She went out with a bang at the Garden. so how many shows did she play on this tour? Six or seven? | |
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17 shows, I think! According to her manager, dancer and crew the tour is not over... they are working on coming to Europe! | |
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PatrickS77 said: 17 shows, I think! According to her manager, dancer and crew the tour is not over... they are working on coming to Europe!
What about the "scheduling conflicts" that are preventing her from rescheduling the postponed US dates?  | |
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SoulAlive said: JackieBlue said: I think so. She went out with a bang at the Garden. so how many shows did she play on this tour? Six or seven? I think she made it to ten. Oh snap! I just remembered she never rescheduled her appearance on SNL either. ETA: 17? That's alot! [Edited 11/6/08 7:03am] Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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Our local radio station reported something interesting...
They claim that LL Cool J left the tour because they lowered his pay,telling him that the tour is losing money and everyone would have to "sacrifice"!  He told them "Bye bye!" | |
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SoulAlive said: What about the "scheduling conflicts" that are preventing her from rescheduling the postponed US dates?
Well, Europe would be around march... before that Japan and Australia! So if it happens they probably won't start before january next year.... even though some have heard that the tour might already start up again in december... we'll see (or we won't)!  | |
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SoulAlive said: Our local radio station reported something interesting...
They claim that LL Cool J left the tour because they lowered his pay,telling him that the tour is losing money and everyone would have to "sacrifice"! He told them "Bye bye!"Hmm, that would be in line with the rumors I guess. Plus the timing couldn't have been worse with his new album release. I was looking forward to hearing Rock the Bells. Sucks because basically she doesn't or shouldn’t need an opening act. I’m surprised she’s going to Europe now. [Edited 11/6/08 7:10am] Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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PatrickS77 said: SoulAlive said: What about the "scheduling conflicts" that are preventing her from rescheduling the postponed US dates?
Well, Europe would be around march... before that Japan and Australia! So if it happens they probably won't start before january next year.... even though some have heard that the tour might already start up again in december... we'll see (or we won't)! Janet could easily reschedule for next year if there are really scheduling problems. If memory serves me correctly, the Kylie shows were rescheduled to a much, much later date to give her time for her treatment. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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SoulAlive said: Our local radio station reported something interesting...
They claim that LL Cool J left the tour because they lowered his pay,telling him that the tour is losing money and everyone would have to "sacrifice"! He told them "Bye bye!"Sounds totally logical. It's becoming more and more clear that this tour has been a financial failure and Janet's "illness" is yet more Jackson bullshit. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Yes, sure she could and I think she should! But maybe she or they are thinking that she already played to 2/3 filled arenas, why bother to do it again!? Or maybe she will and will do smaller arenas this time! Who knows at this point!? The situation sucks... there should be an official statement, is the tour done or will she continue!? So far this tour, apart from the show, has been a desaster! | |
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I'm not so sure of the financial failure... of course, they didn't make the money they expected, but with the 9 known shows she pulled in almost 8 Mio dollars! Granted... that's probably peanuts to her, but still!
Artist: Janet Jackson, Hedspin Venue: General Motors Place City/State: Vancouver, British Columbia Event Date: Sept. 10, 2008 Gross Sales: $927,098 Attend/Capacity: 8,941 / 11,074 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Artist: Janet Jackson, Nelly Venue: Oracle Arena City/State: Oakland, California Event Date: Sept. 13, 2008 Gross Sales: $809,478 Attend/Capacity: 9,430 / 12,282 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Artist: Janet Jackson, LL Cool J Venue: Staples Center City/State: Los Angeles, California Event Date: Sept. 17, 2008 Gross Sales: $1,181,045 Attend/Capacity: 12,109 / 13,025 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Artist: Janet Jackson Venue: Mandalay Bay Events Center City/State: Las Vegas, Nevada Event Date: Sept. 19, 2008 Gross Sales: $1,027,602 Attend/Capacity: 8,065 / 8,168 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Prices: $300.75, $55.75 Artist: Janet Jackson, LL Cool J Venue: Allstate Arena City/State: Rosemont, Illinois Event Date: Sept. 25, 2008 Gross Sales: $792,139 Attend/Capacity: 9,519 / 11,541 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Prices: $129.75, 24.75 Artist: Janet Jackson Venue: Verizon Center City/State: Washington, D.C. Event Date: Oct. 15, 2008 Gross Sales: $1,077,846 Attend/Capacity: 9,720 / 10,389 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Prices: $129.75, $49.75 Artist: Janet Jackson Venue: Izod Center City/State: East Rutherford, N.J. Event Date: Oct. 17, 2008 Gross Sales: $883,472 Attend/Capacity: 10,865 / 14,247 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Prices: $365.76, $12 Artist: Janet Jackson, LL Cool J, DJ Playboy Venue: Toyota Center City/State: Houston, Texas Event Date: Oct. 21, 2008 Gross Sales: $548,039 Attend/Capacity: 7,090 / 7,470 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Prices: $124.75, $49.75 Artist: Janet Jackson, LL Cool J, DJ Playboy Venue: American Airlines Center City/State: Dallas, Texas Event Date: Oct. 22, 2008 Gross Sales: $532,393 Attend/Capacity: 7,729 / 11,640 Shows/Sellouts: 1 /0 Prices: $124.75, $49.75 TOTAL Gross (so far) 7,779,112 Attendence (so far) 83,468 | |
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PatrickS77 said: I'm not so sure of the financial failure... of course, they didn't make the money they expected, but with the 9 known shows she pulled in almost 8 Mio dollars! Granted... that's probably peanuts to her, but still!
Artist: Janet Jackson, Hedspin Venue: General Motors Place City/State: Vancouver, British Columbia Event Date: Sept. 10, 2008 Gross Sales: $927,098 Attend/Capacity: 8,941 / 11,074 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Artist: Janet Jackson, Nelly Venue: Oracle Arena City/State: Oakland, California Event Date: Sept. 13, 2008 Gross Sales: $809,478 Attend/Capacity: 9,430 / 12,282 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Artist: Janet Jackson, LL Cool J Venue: Staples Center City/State: Los Angeles, California Event Date: Sept. 17, 2008 Gross Sales: $1,181,045 Attend/Capacity: 12,109 / 13,025 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Artist: Janet Jackson Venue: Mandalay Bay Events Center City/State: Las Vegas, Nevada Event Date: Sept. 19, 2008 Gross Sales: $1,027,602 Attend/Capacity: 8,065 / 8,168 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Prices: $300.75, $55.75 Artist: Janet Jackson, LL Cool J Venue: Allstate Arena City/State: Rosemont, Illinois Event Date: Sept. 25, 2008 Gross Sales: $792,139 Attend/Capacity: 9,519 / 11,541 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Prices: $129.75, 24.75 Artist: Janet Jackson Venue: Verizon Center City/State: Washington, D.C. Event Date: Oct. 15, 2008 Gross Sales: $1,077,846 Attend/Capacity: 9,720 / 10,389 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Prices: $129.75, $49.75 Artist: Janet Jackson Venue: Izod Center City/State: East Rutherford, N.J. Event Date: Oct. 17, 2008 Gross Sales: $883,472 Attend/Capacity: 10,865 / 14,247 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Prices: $365.76, $12 Artist: Janet Jackson, LL Cool J, DJ Playboy Venue: Toyota Center City/State: Houston, Texas Event Date: Oct. 21, 2008 Gross Sales: $548,039 Attend/Capacity: 7,090 / 7,470 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Prices: $124.75, $49.75 Artist: Janet Jackson, LL Cool J, DJ Playboy Venue: American Airlines Center City/State: Dallas, Texas Event Date: Oct. 22, 2008 Gross Sales: $532,393 Attend/Capacity: 7,729 / 11,640 Shows/Sellouts: 1 /0 Prices: $124.75, $49.75 TOTAL Gross (so far) 7,779,112 Attendence (so far) 83,468 i saw her in San Diego. i don't see it listed You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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PatrickS77 said: Yes, sure she could and I think she should! But maybe she or they are thinking that she already played to 2/3 filled arenas, why bother to do it again!?
Well done. You have answered your own question. Poor ticket sales are the beginning and end of this story. But Janet's ploys should tell you a lot about her character. Your girl is a pathological liar. Clearly her ego couldn't take the fact that she can no longer fill arenas. She's not the first to go through this, but most don't fake illnesses to try and get out of it. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Well, either that or she's a businesswoman who cuts her losses! | |
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