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What determines a song's chart position??? Hey so I'm pretty clueless on this subject, but can someone explain to me what determines a song's position on the Billboard charts these days? The days of the single are long gone, so I know its not based on sales of those, and Billboard has a separate chart for most downloaded songs. But for their Hot 100, what makes a song #1,2,3,4....20 and so on on their charts?
T.I. again succeeds himself at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 as "Live Your Life" featuring Rihanna, trades places 2-1 with "Whatever You Like." On Oct. 9, "Life" replaced "Like," making T.I. the ninth artist in the rock era to do this...There's not much other action within the top 10 of the Hot 100. Pink's "So What" rises 4-3 and Katy Perry's "Hot N Cold" moves 6-4, while Beyonce's "If I Were a Boy" slides 3-5. Britney Spears' "Womanizer" is down 5-6, with Kevin Rudolf's "Let It Rock" featuring Lil Wayne and Ne-Yo's "Miss Independent" holding at Nos. 7 and 8, respectively.
Akon's "Right Now (Na Na Na)" powers 14-9 and is the top digital gainer after selling 117,000 downloads. Jason Mraz's "I'm Yours" holds at No. 10 to round out the top portion of the Hot 100.... http://www.billboard.com/...1003887856 Are these numbers based on soley radio airplay? And how is it determined on what song gets played and how many times it gets played on the radio? People calling in? Payolla??  MJ L.O.V.E: https://www.facebook.com/...689&type=2 / YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/us...nderSilent | |
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NaughtyKitty said: Hey so I'm pretty clueless on this subject, but can someone explain to me what determines a song's position on the Billboard charts these days? The days of the single are long gone, so I know its not based on sales of those, and Billboard has a separate chart for most downloaded songs. But for their Hot 100, what makes a song #1,2,3,4....20 and so on on their charts?
T.I. again succeeds himself at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 as "Live Your Life" featuring Rihanna, trades places 2-1 with "Whatever You Like." On Oct. 9, "Life" replaced "Like," making T.I. the ninth artist in the rock era to do this...There's not much other action within the top 10 of the Hot 100. Pink's "So What" rises 4-3 and Katy Perry's "Hot N Cold" moves 6-4, while Beyonce's "If I Were a Boy" slides 3-5. Britney Spears' "Womanizer" is down 5-6, with Kevin Rudolf's "Let It Rock" featuring Lil Wayne and Ne-Yo's "Miss Independent" holding at Nos. 7 and 8, respectively.
Akon's "Right Now (Na Na Na)" powers 14-9 and is the top digital gainer after selling 117,000 downloads. Jason Mraz's "I'm Yours" holds at No. 10 to round out the top portion of the Hot 100.... http://www.billboard.com/...1003887856 Are these numbers based on soley radio airplay? And how is it determined on what song gets played and how many times it gets played on the radio? People calling in? Payolla?? for the most part it is airplay more heavily than ever, the thing is that even if you request a song from radio if its not on their agenda, regardless of how many requests, they wont play it. DJ's cant not play anything that isnt on the list to be played, no b sides, no album cuts, unless they are formatted to be that way. The "agenda" playlists are determined alot of times by what your label is paying for to be pushed and played. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: NaughtyKitty said: Hey so I'm pretty clueless on this subject, but can someone explain to me what determines a song's position on the Billboard charts these days? The days of the single are long gone, so I know its not based on sales of those, and Billboard has a separate chart for most downloaded songs. But for their Hot 100, what makes a song #1,2,3,4....20 and so on on their charts?
Are these numbers based on soley radio airplay? And how is it determined on what song gets played and how many times it gets played on the radio? People calling in? Payolla?? for the most part it is airplay more heavily than ever, the thing is that even if you request a song from radio if its not on their agenda, regardless of how many requests, they wont play it. DJ's cant not play anything that isnt on the list to be played, no b sides, no album cuts, unless they are formatted to be that way. The "agenda" playlists are determined alot of times by what your label is paying for to be pushed and played. Thanks Lastdecember, that's kinda what I was thinking too. If all the songs we hear over and over again on the radio are basically put there by the record labels, than do these chart positions really mean anything? If something is truly a hit, it should be determined by the public demand. But the public has no control over what gets played, we're force fed much of the crap that gets airplay these days. I guess a better indicator of song success is how many downloads it gets. MJ L.O.V.E: https://www.facebook.com/...689&type=2 / YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/us...nderSilent | |
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NaughtyKitty said: lastdecember said: for the most part it is airplay more heavily than ever, the thing is that even if you request a song from radio if its not on their agenda, regardless of how many requests, they wont play it. DJ's cant not play anything that isnt on the list to be played, no b sides, no album cuts, unless they are formatted to be that way. The "agenda" playlists are determined alot of times by what your label is paying for to be pushed and played. Thanks Lastdecember, that's kinda what I was thinking too. If all the songs we hear over and over again on the radio are basically put there by the record labels, than do these chart positions really mean anything? If something is truly a hit, it should be determined by the public demand. But the public has no control over what gets played, we're force fed much of the crap that gets airplay these days. I guess a better indicator of song success is how many downloads it gets. Thats pretty much it, radio stations are pretty much forced to play from a very small list, so emails and calling in is useless and i really dont know why that artists even tell their fans to do that anymore. I remember back in the day when Billboard would print radio stations playlists and some stations had 100 songs on them weekly, and they were all over the map with the songs, but now stations are in a 10-20 song routine and the reason why you will see songs MILKED to death, i mean stations should not still be playing "I kissed a girl" by Katy Perry and "Damaged" by Danity Kane almost 9 months after release. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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I remember growing up as a kid in the 70's, radio was more lose. I can remember not only hearing groups like Steely Dan and the BT Express, played on the same station one after the other, In fact, if you wanted to hear a song on their album that was maybe a "B" side, there were DJ's that would play it. This was beofore they screwed radio up with introduction of "The Formatted" radio.
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lastdecember said: NaughtyKitty said: Thanks Lastdecember, that's kinda what I was thinking too. If all the songs we hear over and over again on the radio are basically put there by the record labels, than do these chart positions really mean anything? If something is truly a hit, it should be determined by the public demand. But the public has no control over what gets played, we're force fed much of the crap that gets airplay these days. I guess a better indicator of song success is how many downloads it gets. Thats pretty much it, radio stations are pretty much forced to play from a very small list, so emails and calling in is useless and i really dont know why that artists even tell their fans to do that anymore. I remember back in the day when Billboard would print radio stations playlists and some stations had 100 songs on them weekly, and they were all over the map with the songs, but now stations are in a 10-20 song routine and the reason why you will see songs MILKED to death, i mean stations should not still be playing "I kissed a girl" by Katy Perry and "Damaged" by Danity Kane almost 9 months after release. He asked you what determined the chart positions of a song on the Billboard Hot 100. Why before going on on your antics against US radio policies did you not inform him that the Billboard Hot 100 INDEED do weight digital downloads with radio audiences to determine positions on the Hot 100. | |
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HOW MUCH THE LABEL PAYS A STATION TO PLAY IT EVERY 15 MINUTES TILL THE SHEEP GO OUT AND BUY THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF BULLSH*T!!!!!
CUZ ALL THE GOOD STUFF AIN'T HIGH ON THE CHARTS!!!!! | |
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