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Reply #60 posted 11/02/08 6:42pm

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You'd be hard pressed to find anyone over 20 who doesnt know this song.
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Reply #61 posted 11/02/08 6:55pm

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One reason why "Heal The World" peaked only at #27, was because airplay and sales didn't peak at the same time. The song actually peaked higher in both the sales chart and the airplay chart, but it didn't peak in airplay until 2 months after it peaked in sales. One could say that the peak doesn't really illustrate the success of the song.

Other than that, it did under perform because Save the world kinda songs weren't really the thing of the moment in the US at that time.

I wouldn't say that the "Dangerous" singles weren't successful. Not many albums since then have produced that many Hot 100 hits (Rihanna's "Good Girl Gone Bad", Shania Twain's "Come On Over" and Justin Timberlake's "FutureSex/LoveSounds" are the only ones that come to mind right now)
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Reply #62 posted 11/02/08 8:56pm

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asaint said:

One reason why "Heal The World" peaked only at #27, was because airplay and sales didn't peak at the same time. The song actually peaked higher in both the sales chart and the airplay chart, but it didn't peak in airplay until 2 months after it peaked in sales. One could say that the peak doesn't really illustrate the success of the song.

Other than that, it did under perform because Save the world kinda songs weren't really the thing of the moment in the US at that time.

I wouldn't say that the "Dangerous" singles weren't successful. Not many albums since then have produced that many Hot 100 hits (Rihanna's "Good Girl Gone Bad", Shania Twain's "Come On Over" and Justin Timberlake's "FutureSex/LoveSounds" are the only ones that come to mind right now)

Yep, it was #27 on the Hot 100 but was #1 as a recurrent
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Reply #63 posted 11/03/08 1:07am

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Its strange because Michael himself did say if he wanted to be known for one song only it would be either Heal the World , Childhood or Stranger in Moscow.

I think it has a beautiful melody. . . its one of the definitive songs of all time, people recognise it after the first two notes.

It was also NOT a flop.. it was kept off the number one spot by Whitney's I will always love you in the UK and went on to be his highest selling single in the UK until the History album singles Scream, YANA and Earth Song.

Also the dangerous singles were all huge hits.. Give into Me even reached no 2 in the UK despite being released years after the album.


I agree with you , in fact Heal the world has a a timeless melody ...people still love it till this day.


I think its better than we are the world , to call it pathetic is really silly and uncalled for eek ,beacuse the song has nothing but a great message.....i don't think its the most horrible song mj ever created....The lost children isn't as good as Heal the world.....
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Reply #64 posted 11/03/08 5:54am

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seeingvoices12 said:

FunkyBrotha said:

Its strange because Michael himself did say if he wanted to be known for one song only it would be either Heal the World , Childhood or Stranger in Moscow.

I think it has a beautiful melody. . . its one of the definitive songs of all time, people recognise it after the first two notes.

It was also NOT a flop.. it was kept off the number one spot by Whitney's I will always love you in the UK and went on to be his highest selling single in the UK until the History album singles Scream, YANA and Earth Song.

Also the dangerous singles were all huge hits.. Give into Me even reached no 2 in the UK despite being released years after the album.


I agree with you , in fact Heal the world has a a timeless melody ...people still love it till this day.


I think its better than we are the world , to call it pathetic is really silly and uncalled for eek ,beacuse the song has nothing but a great message.....i don't think its the most horrible song mj ever created....The lost children isn't as good as Heal the world.....


well after HTW MJ copied teh concept way too much especially in People All Over The World, HIStory and Lost Children.
All these songs plus What More Can I Give and probably From The Bottom Of Our Heart sound like a mixture between We Are The World, Heal The World and I Just Can't stop Loving You.

Do you folks know People All Over The World? Now, THAT'S what I call cheesy.
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Reply #65 posted 11/03/08 7:22am

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well obviously michael and his people knew the subject of the song, the style of the song and the video are what would propel his big comeback for the 90's and would easily go to the top, and that it did. I think it was one of the safest songs on Dangerous if you ask me, and for a first single too.


yeah but it was not the first single.

The thing noone answered so far: Why was it a flop in the USA? I don't wanna hear about the rest of the world. As far as I can remember it only made the top 30. why?


sorry, I was referring to black or white, NOT heal the world, I thought the two posts before mine talking about black or white would come up
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Reply #66 posted 11/03/08 3:23pm

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Heal The World was basically a remake of We Are The World. The same thing can be said about Earth Song & The Lost Children.
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Reply #67 posted 11/03/08 3:24pm

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Heal The World was basically a remake of We Are The World. The same thing can be said about Earth Song & The Lost Children.


Basically what I said, lol. nod
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Reply #68 posted 11/03/08 4:11pm

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Do you folks know People All Over The World? Now, THAT'S what I call cheesy


yeah that and children's holiday. I even have the instrumentals. lol
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Reply #69 posted 11/03/08 5:30pm

Timmy84

NMusiqNSoul said:

Do you folks know People All Over The World? Now, THAT'S what I call cheesy


yeah that and children's holiday. I even have the instrumentals. lol


LOL I don't think I WANT to hear it then and don't some of y'all go "oh but you don't know until you listen", lol...
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Reply #70 posted 11/03/08 5:41pm

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Michael was doing save the world type songs before 'we are the world'. What about 'Can you feel it?' That song is better then all the rest combined. Oh except for Earth Song. Those 2 are pretty much equal.
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Reply #71 posted 11/03/08 5:48pm

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Michael was doing save the world type songs before 'we are the world'. What about 'Can you feel it?' That song is better then all the rest combined. Oh except for Earth Song. Those 2 are pretty much equal.


"Can You Feel It" had a funk beat to it. We meant in the same style, lol.
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Reply #72 posted 11/04/08 12:19pm

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musicman said:

I gotta say, as an MJ fan too- I can't stand this song. It has no soul, unlike Man In The Mirror or even Earth Song- those songs have soul.

Heal The World sounds like it was so calculated to be that "message" song on Dangerous.

Co-sign. Never liked this song either and I agree that this was a calculated "message song, I always felt that this song was designated to be the Dangerous album's Man in the Mirror. Well HTW is no Man in the Mirror, much too cheesy and schmaltzy...sounds like something that belonged on a Disney film and I agree, it had no soul. Even the logo for HTW was silly and overly simplistic:



As if a band-aid is gonna heal and take care of all the world's ailments lol
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Reply #73 posted 11/04/08 12:29pm

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Timmy84 said:

Arnotts said:

Michael was doing save the world type songs before 'we are the world'. What about 'Can you feel it?' That song is better then all the rest combined. Oh except for Earth Song. Those 2 are pretty much equal.


"Can You Feel It" had a funk beat to it. We meant in the same style, lol.


Wait, Heal The World is stylistically similar to Earth Song?
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Reply #74 posted 11/04/08 12:41pm

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Timmy84 said:



"Can You Feel It" had a funk beat to it. We meant in the same style, lol.


Wait, Heal The World is stylistically similar to Earth Song?


No... Heal the World is similar to We Are the World. Earth Song is not a good comparison. lol
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Reply #75 posted 11/04/08 12:42pm

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Because it had kids in the video and it made everyone very uncomfortable becuz of the smoke/fire-theory.

Also, the song sucks major donkey balls.

You asked.
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Reply #76 posted 11/04/08 12:46pm

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Timmy84 said:

Annika said:



Wait, Heal The World is stylistically similar to Earth Song?


No... Heal the World is similar to We Are the World. Earth Song is not a good comparison. lol


Yeah, I thought so. It just kind of looked like that from how the comments were stacked.

I love Earth Song. music
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Reply #77 posted 11/04/08 12:46pm

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Who other artist had 9 singles charting from the same album in the UK? I can't think of anyone else

MJ did it before with Bad ad 9 singles smile
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Reply #78 posted 11/04/08 12:48pm

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HamsterHuey said:

Because it had kids in the video and it made everyone very uncomfortable becuz of the smoke/fire-theory.

Also, the song sucks major donkey balls.

You asked.

It was out about 9 months before that scandal hit. I know I was only 11 at the time, but I never remembered anyone asking any questions before.
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Reply #79 posted 11/04/08 12:49pm

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Ellie said:

HamsterHuey said:

Because it had kids in the video and it made everyone very uncomfortable becuz of the smoke/fire-theory.

Also, the song sucks major donkey balls.

You asked.

It was out about 9 months before that scandal hit. I know I was only 11 at the time, but I never remembered anyone asking any questions before.


Ermmm, smoke/fire; there had been rumours for AGES. Going back to the time he 'dated' Brooke Shields.

But the major plot was the song being too awful for words.
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Reply #80 posted 11/04/08 12:49pm

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graecophilos said:

Timmy84 said:



Ignore him. lol

I dig those joints too.


Noooo! I Can't... is a sound, not a song.

Yep. Same goes for SDMW. I think the tunelessness was part of why people didn't like Dangerous when it first came out, at least not the first half of the album. ITC and RTT were the only songs on the first half of the album that everyone seemed to like instantaneously. Most people I knew were just baffled by "songs" like Jam and ICLHGA.
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Reply #81 posted 11/04/08 12:49pm

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Oh yeah and to get it straight. Heal The World AND We Are The World are crap songs. WATW ever so slightly shittier. Earth Song was amazing for the time, but due to horrendous overplay I can't hear it any more. Can You Feel It totally stands up though.
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Reply #82 posted 11/04/08 12:52pm

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midnightmover said:

graecophilos said:



Noooo! I Can't... is a sound, not a song.

Yep. Same goes for SDMW. I think the tunelessness was part of why people didn't like Dangerous when it first came out, at least not the first half of the album. ITC and RTT were the only songs on the first half of the album that everyone seemed to like instantaneously. Most people I knew were just baffled by "songs" like Jam and ICLHGA.

REALLY? Over here Jam and SDMW were huge. I remember I even had some friends who didn't even like MJ but like 3 years after the album a couple of them were raving to me about She Drives Me Wild.

Dangerous unfortunately only spent 1 week at the top of the album charts in the UK because Freddie Mercury died that week and Queen re-issues dominated the chart for the whole of Christmas 91.
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Reply #83 posted 11/04/08 12:53pm

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midnightmover said:

graecophilos said:



Noooo! I Can't... is a sound, not a song.

Yep. Same goes for SDMW. I think the tunelessness was part of why people didn't like Dangerous when it first came out, at least not the first half of the album. ITC and RTT were the only songs on the first half of the album that everyone seemed to like instantaneously. Most people I knew were just baffled by "songs" like Jam and ICLHGA.


I'm one of these. I dislike how he never gave up that melody-less shit afterwards. He rarely released dance song with a great melody after Dangerous.
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Reply #84 posted 11/04/08 12:54pm

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I take that back, "I Can't Let Her Get Away" doesn't make sense. But "Jam" and "She Drives Me Wild" are still the shit, lol...
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Reply #85 posted 11/04/08 12:54pm

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Ghosts is one of my fav MJ tunes right now. Melodic, danceable and amazing production! music
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Reply #86 posted 11/04/08 12:55pm

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Timmy84 said:

I take that back, "I Can't Let Her Get Away" doesn't make sense. But "Jam" and "She Drives Me Wild" are still the shit, lol...


Heh, I'm the exact opposite. I love I Can't Let Her Get Away, but I'm kind of luke warm on the other two.
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Reply #87 posted 11/04/08 1:10pm

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Timmy84 said:

I take that back, "I Can't Let Her Get Away" doesn't make sense. But "Jam" and "She Drives Me Wild" are still the shit, lol...

OMG, I looooove She Drives Me Wild. That´s one of my all time favourite MJ tracks. It´s funny caues when Dangerous was released, I used to skip this song as well as Can´t Let Her Get Away, now I love these two songs, especially She Drives Me Wild. I just love those engine-like sounds. That´s funky.
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Reply #88 posted 11/04/08 1:30pm

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dag said:

Timmy84 said:

I take that back, "I Can't Let Her Get Away" doesn't make sense. But "Jam" and "She Drives Me Wild" are still the shit, lol...

OMG, I looooove She Drives Me Wild. That´s one of my all time favourite MJ tracks. It´s funny caues when Dangerous was released, I used to skip this song as well as Can´t Let Her Get Away, now I love these two songs, especially She Drives Me Wild. I just love those engine-like sounds. That´s funky.

"She drives ne wild" is just underrated, the same goes for "Give in to me" and "In the closet", great songs.
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Reply #89 posted 11/04/08 1:44pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

dag said:


OMG, I looooove She Drives Me Wild. That´s one of my all time favourite MJ tracks. It´s funny caues when Dangerous was released, I used to skip this song as well as Can´t Let Her Get Away, now I love these two songs, especially She Drives Me Wild. I just love those engine-like sounds. That´s funky.

"She drives ne wild" is just underrated, the same goes for "Give in to me" and "In the closet", great songs.

I think the whole Dangerous album is underated. It´s my favourite MJ album. There are so many great tracks that never get mentioned for instance even here on the org when talking about great MJ songs. Songs like Why You Wanna Trip On Me, She Drives Me Wild, Can´t Let Her Get Away, Give Into Me, Gone Too Soon, Will You Be There, Who Is It, Keep the Faith - brilliant tracks, all so unique and different.
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