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Printablegraecophilos said: Noooo! I Can't... is a sound, not a song. Exactly. | |
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graecophilos said: Timmy84 said: Ignore him. 
I dig those joints too. Noooo! I Can't... is a sound, not a song.
Whatever you say... DAD GONE IT! I'm gonna make you listen to that shit then. | |
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It was cheesy crap. thats why. . | |
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Timmy84 said: graecophilos said: Noooo! I Can't... is a sound, not a song.
Whatever you say... DAD GONE IT! I'm gonna make you listen to that shit then. 
Shamon' Timmy, Shamone!!!!! I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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xperience319 said:  <-- That's what happens when most non-MJ fans hear this song.
Im a casual fan and i *HATE* it. It's the opposite in my household. I'm the big fan and I skip it all the time, except for the odd occasion i'll give it a listen, whereas my sister is the very casual fan, probably wouldn't even call her that and she loves it. It's weird. | |
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Arnotts said: xperience319 said: <-- That's what happens when most non-MJ fans hear this song.
Im a casual fan and i *HATE* it. It's the opposite in my household. I'm the big fan and I skip it all the time, except for the odd occasion i'll give it a listen, whereas my sister is the very casual fan, probably wouldn't even call her that and she loves it. It's weird. That's weird. I usually skip it or mute it whenever I do play "Dangerous". | |
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I'd almost go as far as saying 'Heal The World' is Michaels 'jump the shark' moment. It's the worst track on Dangerous, and crossed the line into Disney-fied shit for 6 year olds that he never really came back from. Ugh I hate that song. | |
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That's the Free Willy song write ... PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever ----- Live Your Life How U Wanna Live It | |
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mynameisnotsusan said: I'd almost go as far as saying 'Heal The World' is Michaels 'jump the shark' moment. It's the worst track on Dangerous, and crossed the line into Disney-fied shit for 6 year olds that he never really came back from. Ugh I hate that song.
I agree "Heal The World" was the worst moment in an otherwise perfect album. Sure there were worse songs in Dangerous but "Heal The World" was the only one which had the distinction of screaming "calculated to be a christmas hit and to show out how I care about the world's wrongs".Whereas "We Are The World" sounded honest "Heal the World" sounded pathetic. In fact wherever anyone wanted to say something bad about Michael Jackson later on and until now "Heal The World" is the ultimate MJ mocking song. The "Free Willy" song was fabulous [Edited 11/2/08 0:54am] | |
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Its strange because Michael himself did say if he wanted to be known for one song only it would be either Heal the World , Childhood or Stranger in Moscow.
I think it has a beautiful melody. . . its one of the definitive songs of all time, people recognise it after the first two notes. It was also NOT a flop.. it was kept off the number one spot by Whitney's I will always love you in the UK and went on to be his highest selling single in the UK until the History album singles Scream, YANA and Earth Song. Also the dangerous singles were all huge hits.. Give into Me even reached no 2 in the UK despite being released years after the album. | |
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FunkyBrotha said: Its strange because Michael himself did say if he wanted to be known for one song only it would be either Heal the World , Childhood or Stranger in Moscow.
I think it has a beautiful melody. . . its one of the definitive songs of all time, people recognise it after the first two notes. It was also NOT a flop.. it was kept off the number one spot by Whitney's I will always love you in the UK and went on to be his highest selling single in the UK until the History album singles Scream, YANA and Earth Song. Also the dangerous singles were all huge hits.. Give into Me even reached no 2 in the UK despite being released years after the album. i was reffering to the US. Why was ut such a flop. And other songs like Give In To Me where disapointments as well. | |
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Timmy84 said: graecophilos said: Noooo! I Can't... is a sound, not a song.
Whatever you say... DAD GONE IT! I'm gonna make you listen to that shit then. Oh, I actually always thought he sings "death promise". Sometimes it's hard to understand him. | |
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I don´t listen to that song that often, but I like it. It´s sweet and it was a HUGE hit in Europe. It least that´s how I remember it.
Children seem to love this song. I remember when I was little and it came out, I loved it, too. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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graecophilos said: alphastreet said: Black or White was obviously made for commercial reasons
doesn't do most things for commercial reasons? well obviously michael and his people knew the subject of the song, the style of the song and the video are what would propel his big comeback for the 90's and would easily go to the top, and that it did. I think it was one of the safest songs on Dangerous if you ask me, and for a first single too. | |
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FunkyBrotha said: Its strange because Michael himself did say if he wanted to be known for one song only it would be either Heal the World , Childhood or Stranger in Moscow.
You know what's even stranger, if it was up to me and some other people, Michael would be forever known for "Billie Jean" or "Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough". | |
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bboy87 said: It was a hit in the UK but in the USA, definitely not
The song was real cheesy  Yeah, 6 weeks at number 2 at the highest selling time of year, only held off by I Will Always Love You. Gosh that was a mushy Christmas chart. [Edited 11/2/08 10:25am] | |
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Ellie said: bboy87 said: It was a hit in the UK but in the USA, definitely not
The song was real cheesy Yeah, 6 weeks at number 2 at the highest selling time of year, only held off by I Will Always Love You. Gosh that was a mushy Christmas chart. [Edited 11/2/08 10:25am] Man why do y'all always have some of the most mushy shit topping the charts around Christmas. The fuck's up with that? | |
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alphastreet said: graecophilos said: doesn't do most things for commercial reasons? well obviously michael and his people knew the subject of the song, the style of the song and the video are what would propel his big comeback for the 90's and would easily go to the top, and that it did. I think it was one of the safest songs on Dangerous if you ask me, and for a first single too. yeah but it was not the first single. The thing noone answered so far: Why was it a flop in the USA? I don't wanna hear about the rest of the world. As far as I can remember it only made the top 30. why? | |
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graecophilos said: alphastreet said: well obviously michael and his people knew the subject of the song, the style of the song and the video are what would propel his big comeback for the 90's and would easily go to the top, and that it did. I think it was one of the safest songs on Dangerous if you ask me, and for a first single too. yeah but it was not the first single. The thing noone answered so far: Why was it a flop in the USA? I don't wanna hear about the rest of the world. As far as I can remember it only made the top 30. why? Because it sucked, lol. Nah, for real, it only peaked after the Super Bowl, lol. It flopped because no one was into that "We Are the World" shit.
It only hit #62 on the R&B chart. | |
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Well tecnically it wasn't a flop. Anything equal or higher than #40 is considered a hit [Edited 11/2/08 12:33pm] | |
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marian said: Well tecnically it wasn't a flop. Anything equal or higher than #40 is considered a hit
[Edited 11/2/08 12:33pm] Yeah, and it sure wasn't "#1" material especially considering the material back in 1992, 1993, lol. | |
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LittleBLUECorvette said: That's the Free Willy song write ...
That's "Will You Be There." | |
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Also I don't know where you got the idea that most of the "Dangerous" singles were flops. Not at all:
Black Or White #1(2 weeks) UK/ #1(7 weeks) USA/#3 R&B/#2 Dance Black Or White (remix)#14 UK Remember The Time #3 UK/#3 USA/#1 R&B/#2 Dance In The Closet #8 UK/#6 USA/#1 R&B/#1 Dance Who Is It #10 UK/#14 USA/#6 R&B/#1 Dance Jam #13 UK/#26 USA/#3 R&B/#4 Dance Heal The World #2 UK/#27 USA Give In To Me #2 UK Will You Be There #9 UK Gone Too Soon #33 UK 2006 re-issues: Black Or White #18 UK Remember The Time #22 UK In The Closet #20 UK Jam #22 UK Heal The World #27 UK And you have to remember this is from an album that spent one week on top of UK album charts and one month on top of US album charts and almost everyone bought so it is impressive how the last singles could do so well considering everyone had them anyway. So I think he did amazing with that album and its singles [Edited 11/2/08 13:13pm] | |
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marian said: Also I don't know where you got the idea that most of the "Dangerous" singles were flops. Not at all:
Black Or White #1(2 weeks) UK/ #1(7 weeks) USA/#3 R&B/#2 Dance Black Or White (remix)#14 UK Remember The Time #3 UK/#3 USA/#1 R&B/#2 Dance In The Closet #8 UK/#6 USA/#1 R&B/#1 Dance Who Is It #10 UK/#14 USA/#6 R&B/#1 Dance Jam #13 UK/#26 USA/#3 R&B/#4 Dance Heal The World #2 UK/#27 USA Give In To Me #2 UK Will You Be There #9 UK Gone Too Soon #33 UK 2006 re-issues: Black Or White #18 UK Remember The Time #22 UK In The Closet #20 UK Jam #22 UK Heal The World #27 UK And you have to remember this is from an album that spent one week on top of UK album charts and one month on top of US album charts and almost everyone bought so it is impressive how the last singles could do so well considering everyone had them anyway. So I think he did amazing with that album and its singles [Edited 11/2/08 13:13pm] I'm compaing the single's success to his older albums and compared with what happened with Bad, Thriller etc. it was a flop and I'm sure he saw it the same way. Only #1, three singles weren't properly released in the USA and the song he likes most (Heal The World) was only 27. He fucked up in the USA so much. Why was Earth Song never released there? | |
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graecophilos said: marian said: Also I don't know where you got the idea that most of the "Dangerous" singles were flops. Not at all:
Black Or White #1(2 weeks) UK/ #1(7 weeks) USA/#3 R&B/#2 Dance Black Or White (remix)#14 UK Remember The Time #3 UK/#3 USA/#1 R&B/#2 Dance In The Closet #8 UK/#6 USA/#1 R&B/#1 Dance Who Is It #10 UK/#14 USA/#6 R&B/#1 Dance Jam #13 UK/#26 USA/#3 R&B/#4 Dance Heal The World #2 UK/#27 USA Give In To Me #2 UK Will You Be There #9 UK Gone Too Soon #33 UK 2006 re-issues: Black Or White #18 UK Remember The Time #22 UK In The Closet #20 UK Jam #22 UK Heal The World #27 UK And you have to remember this is from an album that spent one week on top of UK album charts and one month on top of US album charts and almost everyone bought so it is impressive how the last singles could do so well considering everyone had them anyway. So I think he did amazing with that album and its singles [Edited 11/2/08 13:13pm] I'm compaing the single's success to his older albums and compared with what happened with Bad, Thriller etc. it was a flop and I'm sure he saw it the same way. Only #1, three singles weren't properly released in the USA and the song he likes most (Heal The World) was only 27. He fucked up in the USA so much. Why was Earth Song never released there? Maybe because the USA is so R&B-oriented that anything not-R&B is doomed. And you can't be expecting any artist to maintain his initial album successes. MJ cannot do another Thriller chartwise just like Prince cannot do another Purple Rain chartwise. But the "Dangerous" chart achievements are still amazing. Who other artist had 9 singles charting from the same album in the UK? I can't think of anyone else | |
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Probably because it was crap  Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer. | |
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graecophilos said: marian said: Also I don't know where you got the idea that most of the "Dangerous" singles were flops. Not at all:
Black Or White #1(2 weeks) UK/ #1(7 weeks) USA/#3 R&B/#2 Dance Black Or White (remix)#14 UK Remember The Time #3 UK/#3 USA/#1 R&B/#2 Dance In The Closet #8 UK/#6 USA/#1 R&B/#1 Dance Who Is It #10 UK/#14 USA/#6 R&B/#1 Dance Jam #13 UK/#26 USA/#3 R&B/#4 Dance Heal The World #2 UK/#27 USA Give In To Me #2 UK Will You Be There #9 UK Gone Too Soon #33 UK 2006 re-issues: Black Or White #18 UK Remember The Time #22 UK In The Closet #20 UK Jam #22 UK Heal The World #27 UK And you have to remember this is from an album that spent one week on top of UK album charts and one month on top of US album charts and almost everyone bought so it is impressive how the last singles could do so well considering everyone had them anyway. So I think he did amazing with that album and its singles [Edited 11/2/08 13:13pm] I'm compaing the single's success to his older albums and compared with what happened with Bad, Thriller etc. it was a flop and I'm sure he saw it the same way. Only #1, three singles weren't properly released in the USA and the song he likes most (Heal The World) was only 27. He fucked up in the USA so much. Why was Earth Song never released there? In 1995, music was in a wierd transition. Alternative rock and rap was exploding and Michael and Prince were in a backlash Earth Song didn't fit anywhere on US radio at the time "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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shesoffthewall said: LittleBLUECorvette said: That's the Free Willy song write ...
That's "Will You Be There." comfort and hold me.. mary will ya scold me... carry me theeeerree... ooooo ooooo oooo ooo ooooo oooo oooo oooo aaaahhhhh LOVE HARD. | |
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bboy87 said: graecophilos said: I'm compaing the single's success to his older albums and compared with what happened with Bad, Thriller etc. it was a flop and I'm sure he saw it the same way. Only #1, three singles weren't properly released in the USA and the song he likes most (Heal The World) was only 27. He fucked up in the USA so much. Why was Earth Song never released there? In 1995, music was in a wierd transition. Alternative rock and rap was exploding and Michael and Prince were in a backlash Earth Song didn't fit anywhere on US radio at the time "Earth Song" would've BOMBED in America for real. | |
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because the song is way too cheesy | |
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