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Another singer butches a classic http://www.youtube.com/wa...bpDfTRJsus
I personally don't like this version why did they have to put Joss Stone in this song. Al Green did justice with this song by him alone. I don't like it because Joss tries way to hard and her vocals are always over the top. | |
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The problem is not with Joss. It is with the mix. Whom ever did this, was clearly not listening to either one of the artist. The timing of the vocals is off and it makes what could have been a nice pairing seem awful. That being said, Joss has the kind of voice that can leap right over someone else's, if she is not careful of it. I love it when I hear the people on this board accuse singers of going way over the top, when the fact of the matter is, they are just feeling the song that they are singing. "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" |
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Oh Jesus tap dancing Christ on a cracker! Why is Joss Stone even on that song? God.  | |
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shorttrini said: The problem is not with Joss. It is with the mix. Whom ever did this, was clearly not listening to either one of the artist. The timing of the vocals is off and it makes what could have been a nice pairing seem awful. That being said, Joss has the kind of voice that can leap right over someone else's, if she is not careful of it. I love it when I hear the people on this board accuse singers of going way over the top, when the fact of the matter is, they are just feeling the song that they are singing.
I agree on that, and at the same time i wouldnt put Joss in the category of "oversinging", there are still oversingers out there that are not just feelin it. Alot of the younger girls and males coming out now all have that "american idol" big note in mind, back in the day we called it the "sam harris star search note" but its the same idea. I wouldnt lump Joss into that grouping by any means, the hate for Joss has always been alive and well on this forum, while passes are given to others. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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I'm an old codger and this reminds me of something I saw many years ago.
It was one of those Live Aid type of events where all kinds of famous singers were involved and shared the stage. I forget what the song was but it was Joe Cocker singing one of his. In the middle of the song Patti Labelle comes out and joins in. Now both of those singers are good at what they do but what a freakin' mismatch in terms of vocal horsepower. Once Patti started singing it made Joe sound like a little croaking frog by contrast. The thing that struck me most about it was the terrified look in Joe's eyes. I'll never forge it. It was like he was about to be rolled over by a freight train. Too bad, cuz Joe was doing what he does best and commanding the stage well within that context and then out came Ms. Super Pipes and it was all over for Joe. I know. This post really doesn't speak to the Al & Joss duet. | |
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lastdecember said: shorttrini said: The problem is not with Joss. It is with the mix. Whom ever did this, was clearly not listening to either one of the artist. The timing of the vocals is off and it makes what could have been a nice pairing seem awful. That being said, Joss has the kind of voice that can leap right over someone else's, if she is not careful of it. I love it when I hear the people on this board accuse singers of going way over the top, when the fact of the matter is, they are just feeling the song that they are singing.
I agree on that, and at the same time i wouldnt put Joss in the category of "oversinging", there are still oversingers out there that are not just feelin it. Alot of the younger girls and males coming out now all have that "american idol" big note in mind, back in the day we called it the "sam harris star search note" but its the same idea. I wouldnt lump Joss into that grouping by any means, the hate for Joss has always been alive and well on this forum, while passes are given to others. | |
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Stymie said: lastdecember said: I agree on that, and at the same time i wouldnt put Joss in the category of "oversinging", there are still oversingers out there that are not just feelin it. Alot of the younger girls and males coming out now all have that "american idol" big note in mind, back in the day we called it the "sam harris star search note" but its the same idea. I wouldnt lump Joss into that grouping by any means, the hate for Joss has always been alive and well on this forum, while passes are given to others. well its an opinion, i dont consider Joss an oversinger though, like her or not. Oversingers to me are vocalists like Beyonce,Xtina,Kat Deluna etc..people with strong voices that dont really know what to do with them yet. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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DakutiusMaximus said: I'm an old codger and this reminds me of something I saw many years ago.
It was one of those Live Aid type of events where all kinds of famous singers were involved and shared the stage. I forget what the song was but it was Joe Cocker singing one of his. In the middle of the song Patti Labelle comes out and joins in. Now both of those singers are good at what they do but what a freakin' mismatch in terms of vocal horsepower. Once Patti started singing it made Joe sound like a little croaking frog by contrast. The thing that struck me most about it was the terrified look in Joe's eyes. I'll never forge it. It was like he was about to be rolled over by a freight train. Too bad, cuz Joe was doing what he does best and commanding the stage well within that context and then out came Ms. Super Pipes and it was all over for Joe. I know. This post really doesn't speak to the Al & Joss duet. Actually that is right on point. We all have seen two good performers vocalists paired together and you get a really bad outcome. The Beyonce Tina duet springs to mind, Mariah and Diana Ross is another one, Aretha and well there have been many with her. Just because you put two good singers together or two strong voices together or just two big names together does not mean you will get a good result. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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DakutiusMaximus said: I'm an old codger and this reminds me of something I saw many years ago.
It was one of those Live Aid type of events where all kinds of famous singers were involved and shared the stage. I forget what the song was but it was Joe Cocker singing one of his. In the middle of the song Patti Labelle comes out and joins in. Now both of those singers are good at what they do but what a freakin' mismatch in terms of vocal horsepower. Once Patti started singing it made Joe sound like a little croaking frog by contrast. The thing that struck me most about it was the terrified look in Joe's eyes. I'll never forge it. It was like he was about to be rolled over by a freight train. Too bad, cuz Joe was doing what he does best and commanding the stage well within that context and then out came Ms. Super Pipes and it was all over for Joe. I know. This post really doesn't speak to the Al & Joss duet. Man wasn't that in the '80s? Man Patti got a LOT of CRITICISM for that shit...and needed criticism because you don't go into a song and then bring the gospel into it. Plus you got the hair from hell with it to add.  | |
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lastdecember said: shorttrini said: The problem is not with Joss. It is with the mix. Whom ever did this, was clearly not listening to either one of the artist. The timing of the vocals is off and it makes what could have been a nice pairing seem awful. That being said, Joss has the kind of voice that can leap right over someone else's, if she is not careful of it. I love it when I hear the people on this board accuse singers of going way over the top, when the fact of the matter is, they are just feeling the song that they are singing.
I agree on that, and at the same time i wouldnt put Joss in the category of "oversinging", there are still oversingers out there that are not just feelin it. Alot of the younger girls and males coming out now all have that "american idol" big note in mind, back in the day we called it the "sam harris star search note" but its the same idea. I wouldnt lump Joss into that grouping by any means, the hate for Joss has always been alive and well on this forum, while passes are given to others. It just gets me when people rip on singers who have a voice. People like, Joss, Beyonce...etc. Yes, they sometimes can go overboard, I am not saying that they don't on occassion. But, they can carry a tune and they are passionate about what they are doing and the same cannot always be said about people who are twice their age and are considered "Ledgends". "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" |
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DakutiusMaximus said: I'm an old codger and this reminds me of something I saw many years ago.
It was one of those Live Aid type of events where all kinds of famous singers were involved and shared the stage. I forget what the song was but it was Joe Cocker singing one of his. In the middle of the song Patti Labelle comes out and joins in. Now both of those singers are good at what they do but what a freakin' mismatch in terms of vocal horsepower. Once Patti started singing it made Joe sound like a little croaking frog by contrast. The thing that struck me most about it was the terrified look in Joe's eyes. I'll never forge it. It was like he was about to be rolled over by a freight train. Too bad, cuz Joe was doing what he does best and commanding the stage well within that context and then out came Ms. Super Pipes and it was all over for Joe. I know. This post really doesn't speak to the Al & Joss duet. The song was "With a little help from my friends" and yes, she made Joe look so small. Here the problem is a similar one to the one with Joss and Al Green. Producers spend so much time dreaming up what they think will be spectacular duets, with the "two flavors of the moment", that they do not take the time to REALLY consider what it is going to sound like, afterward. One of my favorite or shall I say, least favorite examples of this, is when they took Brandy's song, Broken Hearted, from her first CD and recorded it with Wanya from Boys II Men as a duet. The reason, cause they were supposedly a couple at the time. Well, that duet, SUCKED, in my opinion. They should have released it as a single the way it was originally recorded. "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" |
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Stymie said: lastdecember said: I agree on that, and at the same time i wouldnt put Joss in the category of "oversinging", there are still oversingers out there that are not just feelin it. Alot of the younger girls and males coming out now all have that "american idol" big note in mind, back in the day we called it the "sam harris star search note" but its the same idea. I wouldnt lump Joss into that grouping by any means, the hate for Joss has always been alive and well on this forum, while passes are given to others.  I agree wholeheartedly. Did you see her ear-splitting version of "God Save the Queen" before the NFL game played in London?
I like her duet with Raphael on his album, but that's about it... ...and I think it would be even better without her.  "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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Oh LAWD, the painful voice of Joss Stone, make it stop, make it stop! 
Im don't know why but I cant take her voice for too long, but a whole album? Forget about it.. Not my taste | |
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lastdecember said: Stymie said: I disagree. I personally don't give a pass to anyone who oversings. I really do not like Joss Stone, I can admit that but this song is a classic that doesn't need to be fucked with, period.
well its an opinion, i dont consider Joss an oversinger though, like her or not. Oversingers to me are vocalists like Beyonce,Xtina,Kat Deluna etc..people with strong voices that dont really know what to do with them yet. I agree that the people you have listed are oversingers but Joss does not have a range like them. In her range where she cannot hit those high notes she is a overssinger because she warbles and adlibs too much which really takes away the meaning of the song. | |
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shorttrini said: DakutiusMaximus said: I'm an old codger and this reminds me of something I saw many years ago.
It was one of those Live Aid type of events where all kinds of famous singers were involved and shared the stage. I forget what the song was but it was Joe Cocker singing one of his. In the middle of the song Patti Labelle comes out and joins in. Now both of those singers are good at what they do but what a freakin' mismatch in terms of vocal horsepower. Once Patti started singing it made Joe sound like a little croaking frog by contrast. The thing that struck me most about it was the terrified look in Joe's eyes. I'll never forge it. It was like he was about to be rolled over by a freight train. Too bad, cuz Joe was doing what he does best and commanding the stage well within that context and then out came Ms. Super Pipes and it was all over for Joe. I know. This post really doesn't speak to the Al & Joss duet. The song was "With a little help from my friends" and yes, she made Joe look so small. Here the problem is a similar one to the one with Joss and Al Green. Producers spend so much time dreaming up what they think will be spectacular duets, with the "two flavors of the moment", that they do not take the time to REALLY consider what it is going to sound like, afterward. One of my favorite or shall I say, least favorite examples of this, is when they took Brandy's song, Broken Hearted, from her first CD and recorded it with Wanya from Boys II Men as a duet. The reason, cause they were supposedly a couple at the time. Well, that duet, SUCKED, in my opinion. They should have released it as a single the way it was originally recorded. Don't laugh at my funk
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shorttrini said: DakutiusMaximus said: I'm an old codger and this reminds me of something I saw many years ago.
It was one of those Live Aid type of events where all kinds of famous singers were involved and shared the stage. I forget what the song was but it was Joe Cocker singing one of his. In the middle of the song Patti Labelle comes out and joins in. Now both of those singers are good at what they do but what a freakin' mismatch in terms of vocal horsepower. Once Patti started singing it made Joe sound like a little croaking frog by contrast. The thing that struck me most about it was the terrified look in Joe's eyes. I'll never forge it. It was like he was about to be rolled over by a freight train. Too bad, cuz Joe was doing what he does best and commanding the stage well within that context and then out came Ms. Super Pipes and it was all over for Joe. I know. This post really doesn't speak to the Al & Joss duet. The song was "With a little help from my friends" and yes, she made Joe look so small. Here the problem is a similar one to the one with Joss and Al Green. Producers spend so much time dreaming up what they think will be spectacular duets, with the "two flavors of the moment", that they do not take the time to REALLY consider what it is going to sound like, afterward. One of my favorite or shall I say, least favorite examples of this, is when they took Brandy's song, Broken Hearted, from her first CD and recorded it with Wanya from Boys II Men as a duet. The reason, cause they were supposedly a couple at the time. Well, that duet, SUCKED, in my opinion. They should have released it as a single the way it was originally recorded. | |
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Check out Joss's version of the Queen song Under Pressure | |
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