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PrintablePrayer is fine, but it doesn't cure everything. You need to do for yourself. "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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scriptgirl said: Way off topic
A bit. But should we be chastized for that? This is not the Politics & Religion forum, it is a celebrity thread in Music. While the topic is about a member of the Debarge family and their drug and jail issues, the conversation turned to how or why the way they dress could or could not be an indication of sexual tendencies. The sexual tendencies and drug addiction and jail problems being in direct relation to the Debarge's rather tragic childhood issues. I think most here have expressed their sadness, disappointment, and hope for El Debarge's recovery. I don't understand what more you are looking for in our responses. This is not a wake. El is not dead. He is the victim toxic formmative years, yes. He is a great talent, who apparently has so much inner turmoil that he is currently not capable of making good decisions for himself. Therefore, he is now in jail and hopefully get the rehabiltation and treatment he needs in a controlled environment. As a fan of his family's music, naturally I hope with all my heart that he and the others will be able to heal from whatever it is that tortures them so and eventually lead productive lives in abundant creativity. But again, he is not dead, he still has a chance to rebuild and reclaim his life after this. Therefore please excuse some of us if we don't exactly choose to approach the thread as if it is a cyberspace version of a candlelight vigil. Celebrity topics always veer off course a little here. It doesn't mean that people are disrepecting or not focusing on the topic at hand.  [Edited 10/28/08 21:32pm] | |
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El going to jail honestly makes me sad.  | |
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He is so talented and he has so much to offer. Who knew he would turn out to be the most troubled Debarge behind Bobby? Please, El get it together! "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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Stymie said: El going to jail honestly makes me sad.
I was so excited (and jealous!) when you told us you were going to see the family in concert. But to hear he acted a hot mess during the show  . Maybe this is his "bottom" so he can get into recovery... | |
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Ottensen said: Stymie said: El going to jail honestly makes me sad.
I was so excited (and jealous!) when you told us you were going to see the family in concert. But to hear he acted a hot mess during the show . Maybe this is his "bottom" so he can get into recovery...
I just want to pray for him. | |
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Looking at both El and Chico in this picture, how can anyone think these guys were "sober" anyway:
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Stymie said: Ottensen said: I was so excited (and jealous!) when you told us you were going to see the family in concert. But to hear he acted a hot mess during the show . Maybe this is his "bottom" so he can get into recovery...
I just want to pray for him. That's even MORE troubling: the man can still SING. | |
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Actually, Chico looks sober to me. El, just looks....lost "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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scriptgirl said: Actually, Chico looks sober to me. El, just looks....lost
Chico MAY be sober now but he still has the after effects of drug abuse. El looks crazy. | |
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scriptgirl said: Actually, Chico looks sober to me. El, just looks....lost That;s how Chico looked when I saw him in the summer. | |
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What do you mean Chico has the after effects of drug abuse? "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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scriptgirl said: What do you mean Chico has the after effects of drug abuse?
I heard Chico got off on prescription pill and heroin addiction. | |
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Stymie, you saw Chico over the summer-you saw him in concert? "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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Yeah, but what do you mean by after effects? "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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scriptgirl said: Yeah, but what do you mean by after effects?
Well, you see, I guess what I'm trying to say is after you've tried drugs for a number of years, especially drugs that he was using, your eyes will be very heavy and you start looking as if you're looking ragged. That's the best I can describe it.  | |
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scriptgirl said: Stymie, you saw Chico over the summer-you saw him in concert? He was at the same show that I saw El at. | |
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Anyone know if Chico's gonna put out his album? He said he was working on it, then again so was El supposedly. | |
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Chico doesn't look that bad to me. I lay odds on Chico putting out a cd before El "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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scriptgirl said: Chico doesn't look that bad to me. I lay odds on Chico putting out a cd before El
No I'm not saying he's lost his looks.  Oh fuck it...
But yeah, Chico may put out an album but we may not get it in five years.
Last one was 2003, lol. | |
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No timmy, pls doe explain "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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scriptgirl said: No timmy, pls doe explain
No because it'll be too complicated for me to explain. And besides, I wish I hadn't said that because I know I'll be questioned. | |
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scriptgirl said: Chico doesn't look that bad to me. I lay odds on Chico putting out a cd before El
You should see James  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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How old is that pic? "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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bboy87 said: scriptgirl said: Chico doesn't look that bad to me. I lay odds on Chico putting out a cd before El
You should see James DAMN!  | |
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Actually, I have seen better more recent pics of James "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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scriptgirl said: How old is that pic?
It's not that old here's another one with Mark(from his myspace)  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Mark has aged well. He so looks LAtino, though "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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scriptgirl said: Mark has aged well. He so looks LAtino, though
for a long time, I believed they were Latino with some African background but found out they were black and half white "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: scriptgirl said: Mark has aged well. He so looks LAtino, though
for a long time, I believed they were Latino with some African background but found out they were black and half white The mother says she has Native American ancestry so that explains Mark's look. James just looks old. | |
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