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Reply #90 posted 10/26/08 4:08pm

scriptgirl

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Whatever. Unless you were in jail with him, you can't say
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #91 posted 10/26/08 4:48pm

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scriptgirl said:

Whatever. Unless you were in jail with him, you can't say

falloff You are making this too easy. lol
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Reply #92 posted 10/26/08 5:43pm

scriptgirl

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Believe I'm not trying to do that
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #93 posted 10/26/08 5:46pm

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bboy87 said:



hahahahahahaha!!!!
RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you.
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Reply #94 posted 10/26/08 6:21pm

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AlexdeParis said:

scriptgirl said:

Yeah, but even way before the crack El was always skinny. He has never been muscular like Chico.

Of course, Chico used to look like this:


He didn't really bulk up until he spent some time in the clink. Maybe El will follow in his little brother's footsteps there as well.

Man, he really looks different than he did when he appeared on Soul Train that same year.
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Reply #95 posted 10/26/08 6:25pm

scriptgirl

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Everybody was rocking that Prince look back then. I don't think it suited Chico, though.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #96 posted 10/26/08 7:46pm

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Found out what prop 36 is-it's a rehab option available to people who have committed drug related offenses.Typically, it is available to first or second time offenders. Don't think this would for El, cause he has multiple felonies on his record
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Reply #97 posted 10/26/08 10:26pm

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Here's more"
Here's a brief summary of what Prop 36 is: Requires probation and
drug treatment program, not incarceration, for conviction of
possession, use, transportation for personal use or being under
influence of controlled substances and similar parole violations, not
including sale or manufacture.
Permits additional probation conditions except incarceration.
Authorizes dismissal of charges when treatment completed, but
requires disclosure of arrest and conviction to law enforcement and
for candidates, peace officers, licensure, lottery contractors, jury
service; prohibits using conviction to deny employment, benefits, or
license.
Appropriates treatment funds through 2005-2006; prohibits use of
these funds to supplant existing programs or for drug testing
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #98 posted 10/26/08 11:25pm

Ottensen

I am not sure if I am the only one, but I find something very troubling about the fact that citizens can have their records accessed online by complete strangers. If the detained person is not a threat to society, or if the search has nothing to do with a backround check for employment, financial, or safety purposes...something feels invasive and inherently wrong about strangers digging into a citizen file like this and posting their info online for mass consumption and public fodder.
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Reply #99 posted 10/26/08 11:33pm

Timmy84

Ottensen said:

I am not sure if I am the only one, but I find something very troubling about the fact that citizens can have their records accessed online by complete strangers. If the detained person is not a threat to society, or if the search has nothing to do with a backround check for employment, financial, or safety purposes...something feels invasive and inherently wrong about strangers digging into a citizen file like this and posting their info online for mass consumption and public fodder.


If you wanna find information about people you know, you can check online. Maybe it's invasive but it's out there. Unfortunately I think that's how some want it.
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Reply #100 posted 10/26/08 11:36pm

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I don't know how it is legal either, but from what I hear, you find the Manson murder victims crime scene photos by just Googling them. Maybe the info is public because the cops think it's for public safety reasons. The charges are not detailed in the least.

And once you do something wrong, it is no longer private. And honestly, in this day and age, there is nothing private. You can find out anything you want about anyone.
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"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #101 posted 10/27/08 12:32am

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scriptgirl said:

I don't know how it is legal either, but from what I hear, you find the Manson murder victims crime scene photos by just Googling them. Maybe the info is public because the cops think it's for public safety reasons. The charges are not detailed in the least.

And once you do something wrong, it is no longer private. And honestly, in this day and age, there is nothing private. You can find out anything you want about anyone.
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Just because the information is availble, why should society not be prudent in how it is distributed, and for what purposes? My question is, WHY would anyone want to look up or post personal stats. I do not see what purpose it will serve in helping the obviously troubled indivdual in question.

In the case of Manson, what we have was a clearly heinous crime that altered the pop culture fabric of the nation. It created a presets for cases about mass murder, serial murder, the pschological analysis of mass murderers, cults, messianic figures, ect. There is a lot that can be learned from studying the example of the massacre Manson and his followers committed...for crime solving purposes, the study of mental health, and contributing to the protection of society. Knowing that El Debarge was 140lbs going into jail for probation violation somehow does not hold the same societal importance for me, and feels like unwaranted, excessive disclosure.
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Reply #102 posted 10/27/08 12:40am

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Like I said, we don't know what he was in for,it is all speculation. The crux of the problem is El. He shouldn't have broken the law to begin with. But maybe this will be the major wake up call he needs.
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #103 posted 10/27/08 7:39am

filmnoirdame

This is beyond heartbreaking. His poor kids.
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Reply #104 posted 10/27/08 7:40am

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AlexdeParis said:

scriptgirl said:

Not sure what he did exactly, but that is why he wasn't at a scheduled gig in New York. That cat is too talented for this ish and he has too many kids. Get it together, El!

I'm sure time will reveal. lurking

Now he can really sing "Love Me in a Special Way", dedicated to Big Mo.
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Reply #105 posted 10/27/08 9:45am

filmnoirdame

What is so funny about this situation to others, cause I don't get it.
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Reply #106 posted 10/27/08 9:54am

Timmy84

TMZ has broken the news:



El DeBarge -- El Busted Again
Posted Oct 27th 2008 9:05AM by TMZ Staff

'80's pop star El DeBarge was popped again -- this time for possession of a controlled substance.

TMZ has learned the singer was arrested in L.A. earlier this month, and locked up after cops discovered two warrants for his arrest.

El DeBarge -- real name Patrick Eldra DeBarge -- was nailed on several charges last year, ranging from vandalism to drugs and domestic violence. The mugshot in this post was taken during the 2007 arrest.

Patrick is being held without bail and is due back in court tomorrow.

Story developing...

LINK: http://www.tmz.com/2008/1...ted-again/

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I just knew it would be drugs. disbelief
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Reply #107 posted 10/27/08 9:56am

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scriptgirl said:

Whatever. Unless you were in jail with him, you can't say


Please with pictures looking like this. I know this dude can't even
hear his own farts now.

Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #108 posted 10/27/08 10:03am

Timmy84

phunkdaddy said:

scriptgirl said:

Whatever. Unless you were in jail with him, you can't say


Please with pictures looking like this. I know this dude can't even
hear his own farts now.



Jonathan was really trying his best to look androgynous as possible, wasn't he? lol

I'm convinced Patrick is El's real name now. lol
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Reply #109 posted 10/27/08 11:41am

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that picture has crackhead written all over it
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #110 posted 10/27/08 11:45am

filmnoirdame

Chico did look androgynous, but he pulled it off and in a way he didn't. He looked the part, but somehow, he seemed way more masculine than the rest of his bros.
EL, that mugshot is heartbreaking.
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Reply #111 posted 10/27/08 2:54pm

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AlexdeParis said:

scriptgirl said:

ok, enough with the puns

Sorry. sad

On the bright side, when El walked into his cell, his new cellmate greeted him warmly: "All this love is waiting for you..."

Word is the inmates promised to looooove hiiiiim in a special waaaay. What more can I saaaaay?

Do you think he did his dirt in New Jersey? As we all know, in the Garden (State), temptation feels so right.

OK, I'll stop now. neutral

you goin to hell in a handbasket lol
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Reply #112 posted 10/27/08 3:03pm

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Timmy84 said:

TMZ has broken the news:



El DeBarge -- El Busted Again
Posted Oct 27th 2008 9:05AM by TMZ Staff

'80's pop star El DeBarge was popped again -- this time for possession of a controlled substance.

TMZ has learned the singer was arrested in L.A. earlier this month, and locked up after cops discovered two warrants for his arrest.

El DeBarge -- real name Patrick Eldra DeBarge -- was nailed on several charges last year, ranging from vandalism to drugs and domestic violence. The mugshot in this post was taken during the 2007 arrest.

Patrick is being held without bail and is due back in court tomorrow.

Story developing...

LINK: http://www.tmz.com/2008/1...ted-again/

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I just knew it would be drugs. disbelief



disbelief Man...that doesn't even look like him...Talent means nothing if you got a monkey on your back...
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Reply #113 posted 10/27/08 3:03pm

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phunkdaddy said:

scriptgirl said:

Whatever. Unless you were in jail with him, you can't say


Please with pictures looking like this. I know this dude can't even
hear his own farts now.


his farts sound like a whisper

HOOOOO! lol
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Reply #114 posted 10/27/08 3:07pm

filmnoirdame

Honestly, grow up
EL looks straight up Latino in that pic.
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Reply #115 posted 10/27/08 3:10pm

Evvy

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now he's the youngest lookin' 50 year old.....
LOVE HARD.
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Reply #116 posted 10/27/08 3:10pm

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filmnoirdame said:

Honestly, grow up
EL looks straight up Latino in that pic.

we're just jokin' confused
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Reply #117 posted 10/27/08 3:49pm

filmnoirdame

He is 47, not 50 and all things considered, I think he has aged well.
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Reply #118 posted 10/27/08 4:24pm

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confused Damn! The drugs got em' disbelief
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Reply #119 posted 10/27/08 4:37pm

filmnoirdame

Drugs have been tapping El's ass for a while now.
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