I really thought El had gotten his act together, but guess not. Either way, it's a very sad situation.

Something seems off about Mama DeBarge. She seems like one of those women that ran the streets when they were younger and did not get into "the Lord" until they got up in age.

bboy87 said:

It was actually a message board I joined when I was trying to find out if they had a website. The motherfuckers on there were crazy, so I left.

Lol, it's nothing sinister.
Yeah, Mama Debarge is off, I think. I don't think she is out running in them streets, but she is real quick to place the blame on how fucked up her kids are on their daddy. It takes two to tango and she is partially responsible for how fucked up her children's home lives were and what is a 70 something woman doing with a myspace and why is she trying to pimp out her family's tragedy? She talks to any publication that listens and then when they put the truth out there, she says they lied, like she did with Vibe.

scriptgirl said:

Whaaaat??? I didn't know she said Vibe lied.

Yeah, she said the vibe interview was "all lies". This after she gave them family photos to publish, gave them an exclusive interview. Chico and Bunny also talked to Vibe.

That mama's weird too.

I remember thinking that years ago when I read that interview she gave to either rock n soul or black beat

What the hell.... two years? Is that usual?
[Edited 10/29/08 19:54pm]

from eonline:
Jane Robison, spokeswoman for the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office, told E! News that because DeBarge was still on probation for a 2001 cocaine bust, not to mention a series of warrants over the past year for domestic violence, vandalism and drugs, the judge threw the book at the fallen pop star.
He was ordered immediately transferred to California State Prison at Lancaster, which will be his home through 2010.
And things could get worse.
Robison said the entertainer also has a separate case winding its way through court for violating his probation in connection with a 2006 drug bust for possession of a controlled substance. A hearing in that matter is set for Nov. 10.
A rep for the singer was not available for comment.
The 47-year-old crooner formed DeBarge in 1978 with four of his brothers and became one of the last big Motown acts on the strength of such R&B hits as "Love Me in a Special Way," "Time Will Reveal" and "Rhythm of the Night." El left DeBarge in 1986 and launched a solo career, which subsequently floundered in the early '90s.

I think he may have learned to do drugs from Bobby

Too bad. What a waste.

That's putting it mildly

SCNDLS said:

I agree.I'm a fan but I have very little sympathy for those who choose to screw up their lives.El has been in trouble before,he's been down this road before,so by now he should have came to his senses and gotten some help.Sadly,some people have to hit rock bottom before they finally decide to get help.Maybe two years behind bars will be the wake-up call that he so desperately needs?

SCNDLS said:

I feel the same way.I'm sick of artists who use the "I-had-a-fucked-up-childhood-excuse".This is one problem that I have with Michael Jackson,too.These dudes are 50 years old...it's time to let it go! At some point,you have to GROW UP,deal with your demons/pain and MOVE ON! There are many ways that they can get help.They just choose not to.

Timmy84 said:

I totally agree with you. I think women like Mamma D stay with their men because they are afraid to leave. I don't think they "stand" for it, they are just afraid of the outcome.

As for the kids being jacked-up, you are so right. It is up to them to fix their own personal problems. However, from what I have read, most times it is a cycle that keeps happening to families. The children of abuse usually do things like drugs and alcohol to escape the pain of their childhood. There are very few that manage to escape from their childhood problems.

Shawnt25 said:

That's because people become emotionally attached to music/movies and the characters/singers. That is why we tend to empathize with people like El and Jennifer Hudson when we hear about the troubles and problems they experience in their lives.

It is for that reason that people like us gather on a Prince fan message board and share our opinions. We are all emotionally attached to Prince and his music.

PurpleCharm said:

Who knows? She may have been.

daPrettyman said:

Not making excuses for folks, but I totally agree.

We also have to keep in mind that she was a wife and mother in a COMPLETELY different era, when women with larger families definitely tended house and had antiquated social roles that you cannot compare to the dynamic professional and social networking opportunities women have today. Just recently I was speaking to an extended family member that divulged the great secret that our eldest aunt, about Mama D's age, stayed in a horrible marriage for years. Being a 1950's southern wife with little skills or education, she realized one day that she had little recourse once one of her babies fell sick and there was no way to get to the doctor without her husband. She made up her mind then and there she would take anything to keep the children fed and clothed. in all sincerity though, I do believe she would have drawn the line at any abuse against her children. I come from a family of shootin' southern black women with too high a talent for marksmanship. There IS a boundary with how much we will take before we open cans of whoop-ass ...but there is a part of me that can put the situation into some kind of context based on the era she was living in...

As for the kids... they have too many issues to simply pray it away...it's all about hardcore psychotheraphy with a clinical professional and getting to the root of their dementia. Without it I see very little hope for full recovery. While it would be great to not see another entire group of folks not succumb this kind of toxicity and madness, until someone has the courage to admit they have problems with which they currently have no power over, and seek serious medical advice to correct not only what's clinically happening in their body but their BRAIN, we shouldn't be shocked at seeing them relapse. It's a viscious cycle.

I wouldn't say the Debarge kids have dementia...

My question is how did he get away with all this s..t.?Many of you make good points it even opened my eyes about things such as The abuse excuse...
[Edited 11/2/08 15:26pm]

didn't you ask these questions in another debarge thread on here?

damn El. He's so talented, a talented song writer, singer...good looks, and his demons screwing him over so bad that he still turning to drugs? He really needs I just hate it when talented people constantly destroy themselves. Shame.

It is a shame, but I hope this will straighten him out

Why is it always some of the best that get themselves into this postion?

Good question.

^^ That is a good question.

scriptgirl said:

yeah and since nothing else seems to work for him,maybe a few years in prison will set him on the right path.Remember what prison did to Chico? He got himself together,wrote a bunch of new songs and made a career comeback in the late 90s.Maybe El can do the same.

I don't know about that. Chico and El are too different people. El seems more fragile and Chico seems more roughnecky.