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PrintableI'm pretty sure "Be Not Always" was a Jacksons track. It was writtem by Mike and Marlon. Possibly for Triumph (when originally written.) PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever ----- Live Your Life How U Wanna Live It | |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: "State of Shock" and "Be Not Always" were "Thriller" outtakes, I think. State of Shock was written right after Thriller was released. He did the demos of State of Shock, There Must Be More To Life Than This, and Victory with Freddie in the summer of '83 Be Not Always was written in 1979 and was supposedly planned for another project but Michael put it on Victory instead Damn, why I always get the shit wrong?  Thanks, guys. | |
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Weren't the Jacksons being branded sellouts because of the whole Don King ordeal and making people buy 5 tickets at a time only, which pissed off low income fans? | |
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alphastreet said: Weren't the Jacksons being branded sellouts because of the whole Don King ordeal and making people buy 5 tickets at a time only, which pissed off low income fans?
I believe so.  | |
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but was there whitney-houston level backlash as a result or what? I was only a year old... | |
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alphastreet said: but was there whitney-houston level backlash as a result or what? I was only a year old...
I really don't know, I was a baby myself so I'm not too sure but I'm sure that it wasn't that bad... but I think some black folks always thought the Jacksons were some sellout busters, lol. [Edited 10/24/08 12:00pm] | |
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Famous Blacks considered "sellout busters":
The Jacksons Diana Ross Dionne Warwick Donna Summer OJ Tiger Woods Diahanne Carrol Lena Horne Clarence Thomas Ward Connelly Taye Diggs Whitney Houston (until she married Bobbay) Tina Turner Lionel Ritchie Eddie Murphy Will Smith Is there anyone I'm missing? [Edited 10/24/08 13:05pm] | |
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shesoffthewall said: Famous Blacks considered "sellout busters":
The Jacksons Diana Ross Dionne Warwick Donna Summer OJ Tiger Woods Diahanne Carrol Lena Horne Clarence Thomas Ward Connelly Taye Diggs Whitney Houston (until she married Bobbay) Is there anyone I'm missing? Maybe there is more but I think this pretty much cover the bases except to be HONEST with you, I don't know if Donna was ever considered one, per se. I know Tina Turner was considered one. [Edited 10/24/08 12:37pm] | |
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Probably Lionel Richie, Eddie Murphy and Will Smith too [Edited 10/24/08 12:40pm] | |
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Timmy84 said: shesoffthewall said: Famous Blacks considered "sellout busters":
The Jacksons Diana Ross Dionne Warwick Donna Summer OJ Tiger Woods Diahanne Carrol Lena Horne Clarence Thomas Ward Connelly Taye Diggs Whitney Houston (until she married Bobbay) Tina Turner Is there anyone I'm missing? Maybe there is more but I think this pretty much cover the bases except to be HONEST with you, I don't know if Donna was ever considered one, per se. I know Tina Turner was considered one.
[Edited 10/24/08 12:37pm] Tina's now on the list.  I put Donna because of the way I've seen her attacked by blacks for her choice of husbands mostly. | |
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shesoffthewall said: Timmy84 said: Maybe there is more but I think this pretty much cover the bases except to be HONEST with you, I don't know if Donna was ever considered one, per se. I know Tina Turner was considered one.
[Edited 10/24/08 12:37pm] Tina's now on the list. I put Donna because of the way I've seen her attacked by blacks for her choice of husbands mostly.Sometimes you can be married to a black woman or man if you're black and still be called a sellout.
But yeah that's one way to view it. 
Put Lionel Richie in there too. | |
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alphastreet said: Probably Lionel Richie, Eddie Murphy and Will Smith too
[Edited 10/24/08 12:40pm] I was thinking about Will too and all of the flack he got on the blogs for "Hancock." | |
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shesoffthewall said: alphastreet said: Probably Lionel Richie, Eddie Murphy and Will Smith too
[Edited 10/24/08 12:40pm] I was thinking about Will too and all of the flack he got on the blogs for "Hancock." Will Smith definitely has been a sellout...since day one, nucca. [Edited 10/24/08 13:05pm] | |
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^
You're right, "Bagger Vance" didn't help either. lol [Edited 10/24/08 13:13pm] | |
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shesoffthewall said: ^
You're right, "Bagger Vance" didn't help either. lol [Edited 10/24/08 13:13pm] Playing a fucking caddie! | |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: "State of Shock" and "Be Not Always" were "Thriller" outtakes, I think. State of Shock was written right after Thriller was released. He did the demos of State of Shock, There Must Be More To Life Than This, and Victory with Freddie in the summer of '83 Be Not Always was written in 1979 and was supposedly planned for another project but Michael put it on Victory instead Interesting.... | |
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