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Thread started 11/19/02 4:44pm

KneeDeep

MICHAEL JACKSON DANGLES CHILD OFF BALCONY!!!


Tue, Nov 19, 2002

...outside his Berlin hotel.. dangling the toddler over a fourth-floor balcony...his legs kicking... Jackson holding the child with one arm

...security had to remove some [fans] from the lobby. Several carried banners, including one that said "Save the Kids"

Jackson,...at one point tossing a small white towel to the crowd below. ... using one arm to hold the boy out over the iron rail of the hotel.

http://story.news.yahoo.c...el_jackson
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Reply #1 posted 11/19/02 4:47pm

anemone

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Maybe that's an initiation ritual for the KKK? omg

no flames please, j/k
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Reply #2 posted 11/19/02 5:09pm

AzureStar

I'm sorry... but that was just plain stupid of him to do. Anything could have happened and that child could have fallen!
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Reply #3 posted 11/19/02 6:10pm

GrecianGoddess

The news said they contacted Santa Barbara County where he lives to see if they will be investigating this. They had no comment at the time. He could get his kids taken away from him if he is endangering them. This event happened in a different country so it complicates things.
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Reply #4 posted 11/19/02 6:28pm

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He needs to be arrested, convicted and put in jail for the endangerment of a child!!


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Reply #5 posted 11/19/02 7:34pm

DJEmale

omg
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Reply #6 posted 11/19/02 9:41pm

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Man, I don't know what the f got into MJ.

As I watched it I twitched in my seat.

Obviously he was kidding around, but just sooo stupidly. It really is endangerement.

I imagine he joked about doing it with the people you can see inside. And those have to be "yes men and women" to not talk some sense into Mike.

He covered the babies face also I think so the baby wouldn't freak out. But then again, the baby wouldn't have really known since it's just a babyh, If it were a two year old or more he would have freaked. Or is it that MJ's into covering faces that his babies are covered also. Very strange.

He threw out a towel too. WHen you look closely at the towel it has something inside. It falls fast and looks bulky. Who knows what was in there, not that it matters, just an observation.

And another thing, I don't think fans were screaming in horror when MJ did that. MJ did it so fast the fans were just confused and euphoric with MJ.

Maybe afterwards some scratched their heads.

But the media twisted that bit of info around for sensationalism.

Anyway, the thing is this, extremely bad judgement, almost childish, something a dumbass low life would do.

I think he's going to lose lots of support and fans.
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Reply #7 posted 11/19/02 9:43pm

shausler

he is a PR nightmare
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Reply #8 posted 11/19/02 10:24pm

UsexyMF

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Very sick & poor thinking...2 gamble with a babys "life"...Lord send this one-time former brotha some much needed help...Real Daddys don't even play like that*
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Reply #9 posted 11/20/02 12:48am

Thecherryloon

UsexyMF said:

Very sick & poor thinking...2 gamble with a babys "life"...Lord send this one-time former brotha some much needed help...Real Daddys don't even play like that*


Still and always a 'Brotha'!

Heard he's apologised this morning admitting he made a terrible mistake.Good man.


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Reply #10 posted 11/20/02 1:10am

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shausler said:

he is a PR nightmare


lol His publicists are friggin angel's
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #11 posted 11/20/02 1:23am

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I was there yesterday reporting MJ's arrival for my newspaper. We did a big story on this today. I saw it and it scared the shit out of me. The whole time Michael was hiding behind the curtains, screaming, laughing,... totally like a child. Its some sad shit.
"Peace and Benz -- The future, made in Germany" peace
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Reply #12 posted 11/20/02 1:37am

Rhondab

rolleyes another one of MJ's biological kids right...
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Reply #13 posted 11/20/02 2:03am

Thecherryloon

Rhondab said:

rolleyes another one of MJ's biological kids right...


and your point is...?
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Reply #14 posted 11/20/02 2:06am

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Thecherryloon said:

Rhondab said:

rolleyes another one of MJ's biological kids right...


and your point is...?


Ohh goodness... lol
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #15 posted 11/20/02 12:51pm

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Still and always a 'Brotha'!
***Well thats cool if U want 2 stick up 4 him...but the facts are facts. Wheres the mans self respect & pride of being a "brotha" / Afro-american when hes done everything 2 change his looks making himself look anything but black? Still & always a brotha U say...

Well thats only if he in his heart soul & mind feels he is. Whens the last time in your life U heard someone being a proud Black man but yet felt the need 2 change everything on the outside that we "see" as being black...?

Yeah ...it really don't make much sense. So my take on it is not so much a slap 2 his face, as it is working with the facts that Sir MJ puts out there 4 all 2 see. Its nothing personal, he is what "Hes" created...He once was a baby born 2 his parents...a cute healthy black baby boy, who as a adult has stripped himself of color & what is natural. And I left out alot in saying that.

He don't need 2 have that afro as he did as a kid 2 B a brotha, but only God knows what the man was thinking when he changed himself 2 look anything but one.

**2 note I'm not anti MJ or what have U, nobody can take away all the great things he's done, but at the sametime if this were Prince hanging his baby out the window being a nut-cake...I'd feel the sameway. If Prince went under the 2000 knifes 2 alter his look & 2 get blacker or darker then he is, I'd B sayin dang what, Prince ain't proud 2 B what he is and 2 B a light-skinned brotha? So that says what, but I do hear ya & respect your feelings 4 MJ~

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Reply #16 posted 11/20/02 1:08pm

SkletonKee

UsexyMF said:

Still and always a 'Brotha'!
***Well thats cool if U want 2 stick up 4 him...but the facts are facts. Wheres the mans self respect & pride of being a "brotha" / Afro-american when hes done everything 2 change his looks making himself look anything but black? Still & always a brotha U say...

Well thats only if he in his heart soul & mind feels he is. Whens the last time in your life U heard someone being a proud Black man but yet felt the need 2 change everything on the outside that we "see" as being black...?

Yeah ...it really don't make much sense. So my take on it is not so much a slap 2 his face, as it is working with the facts that Sir MJ puts out there 4 all 2 see. Its nothing personal, he is what "Hes" created...He once was a baby born 2 his parents...a cute healthy black baby boy, who as a adult has stripped himself of color & what is natural. And I left out alot in saying that.

He don't need 2 have that afro as he did as a kid 2 B a brotha, but only God knows what the man was thinking when he changed himself 2 look anything but one.

**2 note I'm not anti MJ or what have U, nobody can take away all the great things he's done, but at the sametime if this were Prince hanging his baby out the window being a nut-cake...I'd feel the sameway. If Prince went under the 2000 knifes 2 alter his look & 2 get blacker or darker then he is, I'd B sayin dang what, Prince ain't proud 2 B what he is and 2 B a light-skinned brotha? So that says what, but I do hear ya & respect your feelings 4 MJ~



shake

its sad when one man judges another like this...is this what civil rights has allowed us? freedom to discredit another persons pride? freedom to judge another mans personal lifestyle choices...

ive seen a wonderful film last weekend called "Far From Heaven". I think some of you self-rightous filks need to check it out to regain some perspective...
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Reply #17 posted 11/20/02 1:12pm

BanishedBrian

SkletonKee said:

its sad when one man judges another like this...is this what civil rights has allowed us? freedom to discredit another persons pride? freedom to judge another mans personal lifestyle choices...


How can you use "pride" and MJ in the same sentence? Being ashamed that you are African-American and trying to mutilate yourself into looking white... what does that have to do with "pride"?
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Reply #18 posted 11/20/02 1:13pm

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UsexyMF said:



**2 note I'm not anti MJ or what have U, nobody can take away all the great things he's done, but at the sametime if this were Prince hanging his baby out the window being a nut-cake...I'd feel the sameway. If Prince went under the 2000 knifes 2 alter his look & 2 get blacker or darker then he is, I'd B sayin dang what, Prince ain't proud 2 B what he is and 2 B a light-skinned brotha? So that says what, but I do hear ya & respect your feelings 4 MJ~

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So you don't think that Prince is lighter skinned than he used to be?

Check the back cover of the Symbol album.
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Reply #19 posted 11/20/02 1:16pm

Cloudbuster

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BanishedBrian said:

SkletonKee said:

its sad when one man judges another like this...is this what civil rights has allowed us? freedom to discredit another persons pride? freedom to judge another mans personal lifestyle choices...


How can you use "pride" and MJ in the same sentence? Being ashamed that you are African-American and trying to mutilate yourself into looking white... what does that have to do with "pride"?



MJ wanted no resemblance to his father.

I don't agree with what he did but that's how much Michael hated Joseph.
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Reply #20 posted 11/20/02 2:31pm

UsexyMF

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SkletonKee said:[quote]

UsexyMF said:

Still and always a 'Brotha'!
***Well thats cool if U want 2 stick up 4 him...but the facts are facts. Wheres the mans self respect & pride of being a "brotha" / Afro-american when hes done everything 2 change his looks making himself look anything but black? Still & always a brotha U say...

Well thats only if he in his heart soul & mind feels he is. Whens the last time in your life U heard someone being a proud Black man but yet felt the need 2 change everything on the outside that we "see" as being black...?

Yeah ...it really don't make much sense. So my take on it is not so much a slap 2 his face, as it is working with the facts that Sir MJ puts out there 4 all 2 see. Its nothing personal, he is what "Hes" created...He once was a baby born 2 his parents...a cute healthy black baby boy, who as a adult has stripped himself of color & what is natural. And I left out alot in saying that.

He don't need 2 have that afro as he did as a kid 2 B a brotha, but only God knows what the man was thinking when he changed himself 2 look anything but one.

**2 note I'm not anti MJ or what have U, nobody can take away all the great things he's done, but at the sametime if this were Prince hanging his baby out the window being a nut-cake...I'd feel the sameway. If Prince went under the 2000 knifes 2 alter his look & 2 get blacker or darker then he is, I'd B sayin dang what, Prince ain't proud 2 B what he is and 2 B a light-skinned brotha? So that says what, but I do hear ya & respect your feelings 4 MJ~



shake

its sad when one man judges another like this...is this what civil rights has allowed us? freedom to discredit another persons pride? freedom to judge another mans personal lifestyle choices...

***The truth hurts & cuts deep like a motha***...I hear ya pain. MJ can fade himeself invisible if he wants 2...Yes its his right. "I didn't say he didn't have that right". But I am just being real with what he is. A person who didn't want his skin and features 2 B that of a afro american on the outside.

I don't know whats in his soul nor do I want 2. But whats on the outside tells that story.(no judge needed) I don't think I'm wrong with that, thus the proof is lookin at MJ..nuff said. As far as having the freedom 2 discredit... thats
laughable...he's done that all by himself with the help of nobody. Pitty party? Go head..

I respect your outlook but understand whats "realistic", is that people don't wanna see the truths sometimes. Facing facts can suck. U wanna pretend and sugarcoat etc...hiding behind civil rights talk...I'm just not blind or a ass kisser. If U see MJ as somebody who loves "himself" 4 who he was truly born 2 B, then your living with blinders on.

People who love themselfs don't do all of that 2 B more in love with themself, but there unhappy with self...They do go 2 extremes 2 make themselfs something that they ain't. U know, narrow that wide nose cause of somekind of shame 2 have black features...they want 2 make it look more straight and pretty-like. Thats all out of low self-esteem.

MJ missed the boat, afro americans are "in" more then ever these dayz and are setting records & trends gaining huge success respect & love with dark skin full lips and that wide nose etc..like never B4.

Yeah I see him lookin at the man in the mirror and sayin I know who & what I am...Controversy...topic over*
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Reply #21 posted 11/20/02 6:56pm

mistermaxxx

Thecherryloon said:

UsexyMF said:

Very sick & poor thinking...2 gamble with a babys "life"...Lord send this one-time former brotha some much needed help...Real Daddys don't even play like that*


Still and always a 'Brotha'!

Heard he's apologised this morning admitting he made a terrible mistake.Good man.


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MJ is Very Much a Soul Brother too Me.
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Reply #22 posted 11/21/02 3:03am

Cloudbuster

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UsexyMF said:[quote]

SkletonKee said:

UsexyMF said:

Still and always a 'Brotha'!
***Well thats cool if U want 2 stick up 4 him...but the facts are facts. Wheres the mans self respect & pride of being a "brotha" / Afro-american when hes done everything 2 change his looks making himself look anything but black? Still & always a brotha U say...

Well thats only if he in his heart soul & mind feels he is. Whens the last time in your life U heard someone being a proud Black man but yet felt the need 2 change everything on the outside that we "see" as being black...?

Yeah ...it really don't make much sense. So my take on it is not so much a slap 2 his face, as it is working with the facts that Sir MJ puts out there 4 all 2 see. Its nothing personal, he is what "Hes" created...He once was a baby born 2 his parents...a cute healthy black baby boy, who as a adult has stripped himself of color & what is natural. And I left out alot in saying that.

He don't need 2 have that afro as he did as a kid 2 B a brotha, but only God knows what the man was thinking when he changed himself 2 look anything but one.

**2 note I'm not anti MJ or what have U, nobody can take away all the great things he's done, but at the sametime if this were Prince hanging his baby out the window being a nut-cake...I'd feel the sameway. If Prince went under the 2000 knifes 2 alter his look & 2 get blacker or darker then he is, I'd B sayin dang what, Prince ain't proud 2 B what he is and 2 B a light-skinned brotha? So that says what, but I do hear ya & respect your feelings 4 MJ~



shake

its sad when one man judges another like this...is this what civil rights has allowed us? freedom to discredit another persons pride? freedom to judge another mans personal lifestyle choices...

***The truth hurts & cuts deep like a motha***...I hear ya pain. MJ can fade himeself invisible if he wants 2...Yes its his right. "I didn't say he didn't have that right". But I am just being real with what he is. A person who didn't want his skin and features 2 B that of a afro american on the outside.

I don't know whats in his soul nor do I want 2. But whats on the outside tells that story.(no judge needed) I don't think I'm wrong with that, thus the proof is lookin at MJ..nuff said. As far as having the freedom 2 discredit... thats
laughable...he's done that all by himself with the help of nobody. Pitty party? Go head..

I respect your outlook but understand whats "realistic", is that people don't wanna see the truths sometimes. Facing facts can suck. U wanna pretend and sugarcoat etc...hiding behind civil rights talk...I'm just not blind or a ass kisser. If U see MJ as somebody who loves "himself" 4 who he was truly born 2 B, then your living with blinders on.

People who love themselfs don't do all of that 2 B more in love with themself, but there unhappy with self...They do go 2 extremes 2 make themselfs something that they ain't. U know, narrow that wide nose cause of somekind of shame 2 have black features...they want 2 make it look more straight and pretty-like. Thats all out of low self-esteem.

MJ missed the boat, afro americans are "in" more then ever these dayz and are setting records & trends gaining huge success respect & love with dark skin full lips and that wide nose etc..like never B4.

Yeah I see him lookin at the man in the mirror and sayin I know who & what I am...Controversy...topic over*


What's that old saying? Don't judge a book by its cover.

Sounds to me like you're too busy believing the media spin.
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Reply #23 posted 11/21/02 8:57am

LadyCabDriver

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Thecherryloon said:

Rhondab said:

rolleyes another one of MJ's biological kids right...


and your point is...?

her point IS, stupid, that it aint really his kid...DUH rolleyes
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Cloudbuster said:

UsexyMF said:



**2 note I'm not anti MJ or what have U, nobody can take away all the great things he's done, but at the sametime if this were Prince hanging his baby out the window being a nut-cake...I'd feel the sameway. If Prince went under the 2000 knifes 2 alter his look & 2 get blacker or darker then he is, I'd B sayin dang what, Prince ain't proud 2 B what he is and 2 B a light-skinned brotha? So that says what, but I do hear ya & respect your feelings 4 MJ~

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So you don't think that Prince is lighter skinned than he used to be?
oh bitch dont EVEN GO THERE with that bullshit about Prince having his skin lightened...how dare you, you got SOME fucking nerve, you MJasskisser

Check the back cover of the Symbol album.[/quote]
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Reply #25 posted 11/21/02 9:07pm

SkletonKee

Cloudbuster said:

What's that old saying? Don't judge a book by its cover.

Sounds to me like you're too busy believing the media spin.



actually... i tend to not judge peoples actions...PERIOD!! live your own damn life...enjoy it...far to much negativity in tripping on what others do...mj changing his face does nothing to my own personal life...me speculating on mjs pride (positive or not) does nothing for my own life...

people need to turn off the tvs...stop buying the tabloids...stop living their lives by following prince, mj and madonna...i come to this site to share idears...to hear about the latest greatest music...

instead im discoving that this place is full of judgemental assholes...not just this mj stuff either...

two years ago i stopped watching tabloid news..then i stopped watching local and network news...to much negative food for the brain...i think its time for me to give this org stuff a rest...to much judging and not enough sharing of the minds...

like i said, this isnt an issue of mj for me..i just look at some of the crap that permeates here...its sad...

there, ive said my mind..goodbye.



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Reply #26 posted 11/21/02 10:57pm

Wolf

SkletonKee said:

actually... i tend to not judge peoples actions...PERIOD!! live your own damn life...enjoy it...far to much negativity in tripping on what others do...mj changing his face does nothing to my own personal life...me speculating on mjs pride (positive or not) does nothing for my own life...

people need to turn off the tvs...stop buying the tabloids...stop living their lives by following prince, mj and madonna...i come to this site to share idears...to hear about the latest greatest music...

instead im discoving that this place is full of judgemental assholes...not just this mj stuff either...

two years ago i stopped watching tabloid news..then i stopped watching local and network news...to much negative food for the brain...i think its time for me to give this org stuff a rest...to much judging and not enough sharing of the minds...

like i said, this isnt an issue of mj for me..i just look at some of the crap that permeates here...its sad...

there, ive said my mind..goodbye.



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Very interesting coming from JUST one of the most intense unreasoned criticizers of Prince on this site. Evidently all the hatred put forth by some Prince fans never rubbed you the same way, that should tell people all they need to know.
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Reply #27 posted 11/22/02 2:21am

Thecherryloon

LadyCabDriver said:

Cloudbuster said:

UsexyMF said:



**2 note I'm not anti MJ or what have U, nobody can take away all the great things he's done, but at the sametime if this were Prince hanging his baby out the window being a nut-cake...I'd feel the sameway. If Prince went under the 2000 knifes 2 alter his look & 2 get blacker or darker then he is, I'd B sayin dang what, Prince ain't proud 2 B what he is and 2 B a light-skinned brotha? So that says what, but I do hear ya & respect your feelings 4 MJ~

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[This message was edited Wed Nov 20 0:53:38 PST 2002 by Thecherryloon]



So you don't think that Prince is lighter skinned than he used to be?
oh bitch dont EVEN GO THERE with that bullshit about Prince having his skin lightened...how dare you, you got SOME fucking nerve, you MJasskisser

Check the back cover of the Symbol album.
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I've seen Prince in white pancake make up more than once.What signal is that sending out?
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