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Reply #120 posted 10/24/08 3:19pm

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Madonna was also originally marketed to black audiences with her first single...can she jump in the ass kicking party? lol
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Reply #121 posted 10/24/08 3:34pm

Cinnie

steelyd said:

scriptgirl said:

Paul Young is coming to tear Jon B and Robin's playhouse down



NOW THAT WAS A FIERCE ASS SONG!!! music ...I haven't heard that song in 20 years



headbang dancing jig
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Reply #122 posted 10/24/08 4:44pm

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To an extent, John has a point. Since the dawn of the new music business, he has been one of the only white R&B artists. Practically everyone named (with the exception of Teena Marie of course) were not marketed as R&B artists. Yes, they had an R&B sound to them but that's not how they were marketed. Jon B. came up through the cushion of the LaFace era. He was never marketed towards a "crossover" crowd. He, like Teena, were always aimed at black audiences. He has always done R&B music. In the era we are in now where there is no musical middle ground and everything has a "box", you could say that he's right. Prior to the 90s, a lot of music shifted from genre to genre. That's all over. Jon stayed R&B and toughed it out. So, actually, he did help pave the way for Robin Thicke.



that's a good point
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Reply #123 posted 10/24/08 5:03pm

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Cinnie said:

steelyd said:




NOW THAT WAS A FIERCE ASS SONG!!! music ...I haven't heard that song in 20 years



headbang dancing jig





I know, right???...I had to put that on my ipod today!!!
bananadance bananadance bananadance
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Reply #124 posted 10/24/08 5:34pm

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Well I remember this pop group turning this song into an R&B sensation with Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis producing it:

Human League - "I'm Only Human"
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Reply #125 posted 10/24/08 5:39pm

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missfee said:

Well I remember this pop group turning this song into an R&B sensation with Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis producing it:

Human League - "I'm Only Human"


music cloud9 this brings back memories .. one of the 1st songs I learned to play ..
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Reply #126 posted 10/24/08 8:37pm

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missfee said:

Well I remember this pop group turning this song into an R&B sensation with Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis producing it:

Human League - "I'm Only Human"
Fascination was my shit!!! headbang
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Reply #127 posted 10/24/08 10:29pm

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Anxiety said:

i just heard daryl hall is bringing his can of whoopass out of retirement. boxed


Co-Sign! Retirement? Sexy never left!

Dude could sing Sara Smile at the bottom of the Ocean and make it sound good.

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Reply #128 posted 10/24/08 10:34pm

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Teena Marie will be bringing the pain directly.



OH *ish* don't bring a gun to a fist fight. Teena makes professional singers
cry with how good she is.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...3TtbbfYZpc
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Reply #129 posted 10/25/08 12:08am

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estelle81 said:

Madonna was also originally marketed to black audiences with her first single...can she jump in the ass kicking party? lol

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #130 posted 10/25/08 1:51am

Flowers2

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estelle81 said:

Madonna was also originally marketed to black audiences with her first single...can she jump in the ass kicking party? lol




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Reply #131 posted 10/25/08 9:51am

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estelle81 said:

Madonna was also originally marketed to black audiences with her first single...can she jump in the ass kicking party? lol



So I guess that means 'no' to New Kids. lol I can't believe they were originally marketed to just black audiences. You know Donny could kick both their asses...that dude don't play. falloff
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Reply #132 posted 10/25/08 11:24am

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estelle81 said:

bboy87 said:




So I guess that means 'no' to New Kids. lol I can't believe they were originally marketed to just black audiences. You know Donny could kick both their asses...that dude don't play. falloff

New Kids on the Block? How about hell no! Marky Mark could join in the fun well before those annoying fellas.
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Reply #133 posted 10/25/08 12:23pm

Ottensen

Alasseon said:

filmnoirdame said:

Teena Marie will be bringing the pain directly.



OH *ish* don't bring a gun to a fist fight. Teena makes professional singers
cry with how good she is.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...3TtbbfYZpc


GAT DAMMIT YOU BETTA SING THAT S... AUNTEE TEENA!!!!






....sorry, I sorta got a lil over excited seeing someone with actual talent sing for once boxed
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Reply #134 posted 10/25/08 1:48pm

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Most you might not remember this but Freddie Jackson threw a fit when George Michael's 'Faith' held him out of #1 on the R & B album chart.
'One More Try' was also topping the R & B singles chart.
Freddie Jackson complained that he couldn't hit #1 on the pop chart (where 'Faith', the album was #1) so why should George Michael top the R & B charts?

I was never a Freddie Jackson fan but I thought that was so petty and racist.
Freddie Jackson wasn't even making pop music . . .
I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think.
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Reply #135 posted 10/25/08 2:04pm

Stymie

Ottensen said:

Alasseon said:




OH *ish* don't bring a gun to a fist fight. Teena makes professional singers
cry with how good she is.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...3TtbbfYZpc


GAT DAMMIT YOU BETTA SING THAT S... AUNTEE TEENA!!!!






....sorry, I sorta got a lil over excited seeing someone with actual talent sing for once
boxed
clapping it's a shame that the world doesn't seem to think that matters anymore.
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Reply #136 posted 10/25/08 3:20pm

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missfee said:

estelle81 said:



So I guess that means 'no' to New Kids. lol I can't believe they were originally marketed to just black audiences. You know Donny could kick both their asses...that dude don't play. falloff

New Kids on the Block? How about hell no! Marky Mark could join in the fun well before those annoying fellas.



NKOTB was NEVER marketed towards a black audience. One of my friends was at Berkley when this group was CREATED. They were always aimed at the pop crowd. They were constructed specifically for that and I know cats who played on and wrote their material.
Madonna was initially played on black radio because the label wasn't sure what to do with her. It was a failsafe back then to test market artists with a "rhythmic" sound on black radio before pushing it on to the pop crowd.
The music business changed in 1990/1991 so anything prior to that has to be looked at under a different light. When the accountants and lawyers took over the business, it became a new game and everybody got placed in a box. Jon B. was in the R&B box alone for quite a while there as a white artist.
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Reply #137 posted 10/25/08 8:45pm

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wtf happened to this thread? anyways you can preview jon. b's new album "helpless romantic" which features a cover of jeff buckley's everyone heere wants you @ http://www.rushmoredrive.com/jonb/
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Reply #138 posted 10/25/08 8:58pm

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Whoa!!! eek didn't know this existed....Luther Vandross & Boy George:

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Reply #139 posted 10/25/08 9:11pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

missfee said:


New Kids on the Block? How about hell no! Marky Mark could join in the fun well before those annoying fellas.



NKOTB was NEVER marketed towards a black audience. One of my friends was at Berkley when this group was CREATED. They were always aimed at the pop crowd. They were constructed specifically for that and I know cats who played on and wrote their material.
Madonna was initially played on black radio because the label wasn't sure what to do with her. It was a failsafe back then to test market artists with a "rhythmic" sound on black radio before pushing it on to the pop crowd.
The music business changed in 1990/1991 so anything prior to that has to be looked at under a different light. When the accountants and lawyers took over the business, it became a new game and everybody got placed in a box. Jon B. was in the R&B box alone for quite a while there as a white artist.


I didn't believe it either until I watched their recent "Behind The Music" special on VH1, which is sad because I never liked them; but I was bored and there was nothing else on. They said that originally they tried to market themselves to black audiences, but that it never worked and some pop radio DJ started playing one of their songs and it blew up. Blame it on the special because that's where I heard it from. lol

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Reply #140 posted 10/25/08 9:15pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

missfee said:


New Kids on the Block? How about hell no! Marky Mark could join in the fun well before those annoying fellas.



[b]NKOTB was NEVER marketed towards a black audience. One of my friends was at Berkley when this group was CREATED. They were always aimed at the pop crowd. They were constructed specifically for that and I know cats who played on and wrote their material.
Madonna was initially played on black radio because the label wasn't sure what to do with her. It was a failsafe back then to test market artists with a "rhythmic" sound on black radio before pushing it on to the pop crowd.
The music business changed in 1990/1991 so anything prior to that has to be looked at under a different light. When the accountants and lawyers took over the business, it became a new game and everybody got placed in a box. Jon B. was in the R&B box alone for quite a while there as a white artist. [/b]


That's interesting news. Did you watch the latest version of vh1's "Behind the Music, Nkotb?" Maurice Star stated in the documentary that when Pop radio grabbed a hold of them, it was not what he had planned for them. His intentions was for them to be an R&B act. I was surprised when he said that because "Hangin' Tough" is pure whack/pop. But "Please Don't Go Girl" was the first song I had heard from them and it was played on R&B stations only, originally. Many assumed they were black. Usually when your target audience are blacks, your management will book you at the Apollo.

NKOTB at The Apollo Theatre (Please Don't Go Girl)

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Reply #141 posted 10/25/08 9:34pm

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shesoffthewall said:

BlaqueKnight said:




[b]NKOTB was NEVER marketed towards a black audience. One of my friends was at Berkley when this group was CREATED. They were always aimed at the pop crowd. They were constructed specifically for that and I know cats who played on and wrote their material.
Madonna was initially played on black radio because the label wasn't sure what to do with her. It was a failsafe back then to test market artists with a "rhythmic" sound on black radio before pushing it on to the pop crowd.
The music business changed in 1990/1991 so anything prior to that has to be looked at under a different light. When the accountants and lawyers took over the business, it became a new game and everybody got placed in a box. Jon B. was in the R&B box alone for quite a while there as a white artist. [/b]


That's interesting news. Did you watch the latest version of vh1's "Behind the Music, Nkotb?" Maurice Star stated in the documentary that when Pop radio grabbed a hold of them, it was not what he had planned for them. His intentions was for them to be an R&B act. I was surprised when he said that because "Hangin' Tough" is pure whack/pop. But "Please Don't Go Girl" was the first song I had heard from them and it was played on R&B stations only, originally. Many assumed they were black. Usually when your target audience are blacks, your management will book you at the Apollo.

NKOTB at The Apollo Theatre (Please Don't Go Girl)

[Edited 10/25/08 21:18pm]


Yeah, that was the special I watched nod. It sounded like Maurice Starr was really pissed about losing New Edition so he formed NKOTB to get back at them for leaving him. Can't say that it didn't work out well for him in the end, even though they dumped him too.
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Reply #142 posted 10/25/08 9:39pm

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shesoffthewall said:

BlaqueKnight said:




[b]NKOTB was NEVER marketed towards a black audience. One of my friends was at Berkley when this group was CREATED. They were always aimed at the pop crowd. They were constructed specifically for that and I know cats who played on and wrote their material.
Madonna was initially played on black radio because the label wasn't sure what to do with her. It was a failsafe back then to test market artists with a "rhythmic" sound on black radio before pushing it on to the pop crowd.
The music business changed in 1990/1991 so anything prior to that has to be looked at under a different light. When the accountants and lawyers took over the business, it became a new game and everybody got placed in a box. Jon B. was in the R&B box alone for quite a while there as a white artist. [/b]


That's interesting news. Did you watch the latest version of vh1's "Behind the Music, Nkotb?" Maurice Star stated in the documentary that when Pop radio grabbed a hold of them, it was not what he had planned for them. His intentions was for them to be an R&B act. I was surprised when he said that because "Hangin' Tough" is pure whack/pop. But "Please Don't Go Girl" was the first song I had heard from them and it was played on R&B stations only, originally. Many assumed they were black. Usually when your target audience are blacks, your management will book you at the Apollo.

NKOTB at The Apollo Theatre (Please Don't Go Girl)

[Edited 10/25/08 21:18pm]

goes and puts Please Don't Go Girl on iPod
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Reply #143 posted 10/25/08 10:45pm

shesoffthewall

estelle81 said:

shesoffthewall said:



That's interesting news. Did you watch the latest version of vh1's "Behind the Music, Nkotb?" Maurice Star stated in the documentary that when Pop radio grabbed a hold of them, it was not what he had planned for them. His intentions was for them to be an R&B act. I was surprised when he said that because "Hangin' Tough" is pure whack/pop. But "Please Don't Go Girl" was the first song I had heard from them and it was played on R&B stations only, originally. Many assumed they were black. Usually when your target audience are blacks, your management will book you at the Apollo.

NKOTB at The Apollo Theatre (Please Don't Go Girl)

[Edited 10/25/08 21:18pm]


Yeah, that was the special I watched nod. It sounded like Maurice Starr was really pissed about losing New Edition so he formed NKOTB to get back at them for leaving him. Can't say that it didn't work out well for him in the end, even though they dumped him too.


Maurice is such a clown always wearing those silly uniforms ala Col. Parker, Elvis' manager, who was actually in the military unlike Starr. lol
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Reply #144 posted 10/25/08 10:48pm

shesoffthewall

bboy87 said:

shesoffthewall said:




NKOTB at The Apollo Theatre (Please Don't Go Girl)

[Edited 10/25/08 21:18pm]

goes and puts Please Don't Go Girl on iPod


lol
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Reply #145 posted 10/25/08 11:06pm

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shesoffthewall said:

estelle81 said:



Yeah, that was the special I watched nod. It sounded like Maurice Starr was really pissed about losing New Edition so he formed NKOTB to get back at them for leaving him. Can't say that it didn't work out well for him in the end, even though they dumped him too.


Maurice is such a clown always wearing those silly uniforms ala Col. Parker, Elvis' manager, who was actually in the military unlike Starr. lol


lol Yeah, Maurice was trippin with that nonsense. He had the little fake medals and everything on that shit. That special had me laughing. The part where Jordan said that the main reason he wanted to be famous was so that he could buy a scooter to ride around school on; and when Donny said that Joey was a funny-looking kid. falloff Hilarious! I'm kinda liking their new song with Ne-yo... shhh don't tell nobody.
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Reply #146 posted 10/25/08 11:17pm

shesoffthewall

estelle81 said:

shesoffthewall said:



Maurice is such a clown always wearing those silly uniforms ala Col. Parker, Elvis' manager, who was actually in the military unlike Starr. lol


lol Yeah, Maurice was trippin with that nonsense. He had the little fake medals and everything on that shit. That special had me laughing. The part where Jordan said that the main reason he wanted to be famous was so that he could buy a scooter to ride around school on; and when Donny said that Joey was a funny-looking kid. falloff Hilarious! I'm kinda liking their new song with Ne-yo... shhh don't tell nobody.


Yea Donny was mean to poor lil Joey Jo. lol Don't worry, your secret is safe with me. *whispers* Donny was always my favorite. lol
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Reply #147 posted 10/25/08 11:48pm

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Someone has to die.
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Reply #148 posted 10/26/08 7:30am

Ottensen

Lawd Hammercy. How and the hell did we move on this thread from Teena Marie to NKOTB eek ?

no no no!
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Reply #149 posted 10/26/08 7:41am

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missfee said:

Whoa!!! eek didn't know this existed....Luther Vandross & Boy George:



I was going to toss Boy George's name into the action as well.
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