MM, I'm actually keen to hear your thoughts on this. Some questions in advance:

Thanks!! Looking forward to your breakdown - don't mind the loons here.

MM, I'm actually keen to hear your thoughts on this. Some questions in advance:

1. When you were co-writing Billie Jean with Mike did you tell him to tone down the misogynist lyrics?

2. Who really came up with that Billie Jean bass line - you or Mike?

3. When you guys were chilling in the studio did MJ ever talk about women? If so, what he say?

4. How did you feel when he gave you the call to co-write Dirty Diana?

5. Does he give a breakdown of the idea for a song - in terms of lyrical content? Like: "This song's about a filthy hussy I met backstage once. Here's a demo now come up with some ideas..."

5. Did you write the Dirty Diana chorus? I think it's mind-blowing.

6. Heartbreak Hotel - you too?



Thanks!! Looking forward to your breakdown - don't mind the loons here.

NMusiqNSoul said:

papaaisaway said:

Good questions

This guy is basically going to state all these songs allude to Michael being a kiddie fiddler.

Cinnie said:

Cinnie said:

Another group called Clubhouse did "Do It Again/Billie Jean" the same year that Slingshot did. They did the same thing Slingshot did by combining Billie Jean and Steely Dan. I like Slingshot's version better than Clubhouse's though.

what the hell? I gotta hear this one

paisleypark4 said:

I'm surprised so many of you have never heard it In my area,our local R&B played this song ALOT during the summer of '83.They would play MJ's "Billie Jean" first,then follow it up with the answer record.Hearing both songs back to back,it was up to listener to decide who was lying and who was telling the truth,lol.

Answer records were very popular in the 80s.I remember the answer record to Oran 'Juice' Jones' 1986 hit "The Rain".That one was hilarious

SoulAlive said:

Do you remember the answer to "Sexual Healing"? It was called, "Feel The Sexual Healing".

shorttrini said:

I don't think I've ever heard that one.Was it funny or silly?

paisleypark4 said:

I'm surprised so many of you have never heard it In my area,our local R&B played this song ALOT during the summer of '83.They would play MJ's "Billie Jean" first,then follow it up with the answer record.Hearing both songs back to back,it was up to listener to decide who was lying and who was telling the truth,lol.

Answer records were very popular in the 80s.I remember the answer record to Oran 'Juice' Jones' 1986 hit "The Rain".That one was hilarious

SoulAlive said:

you.are.giving.away.some.of.our.ages.thank.you.

I cant remember the Oran Juice Jones answer song, though

Im sorta tempted to look for it on youtube, though

For some reason I can't stand answer songs though Club Nouveau's "diss" to the Timex Social Club in "Jealousy" was cool.
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Timmy84 said:

Wasn't Jay King a part of Timex Social Club? Did he produce their album? What's the story behind their apparent falling out?

SoulAlive said:

SoulAlive said:

Yes he was. I don't know verbatim what went down but whatever happened led a bad taste in Jay's mouth, lol.

Timmy84 said:

From what I've heard,Jay was a difficult person to get along with.He had a massive ego too.

SoulAlive said:

That's true.

Timmy84 said:

Jay's ego is what kept Club Nouveau from having long-term success.In 1987,at the height of Club Nouveau's popularity,Madonna asked them to be the opening act on her 'Who's That Girl' tour.....a record-breaking,massive world tour which played huge stadiums throughout the world.It would have exposed Club Nouveau to their biggest audience ever.A week before it was to begin,Jay pulled out of the gig,saying "Madonna doesn't need us,and we don't need Madonna"

not surprisingly,Club Nouveau quickly faded away after that career misstep

Ottensen said:

It's a woman talking while the music to his song plays in the background.She plays the girlfriend that he confronts.She says...

"Oh so you saw me walkin in the rain huh? That's the first thing you've noticed about me IN MONTHS".

She even criticizes his fashion sense...

"That's a nice suit you have on.It looks just as good on you today AS IT DID YESTERDAY"

SoulAlive said:

PLEAAASE find this on youtube ! I would look but who does it, what was the chorus (song title)??

Cinnie said:

Our radio station would play his song first,then play her song right after

NMusiqNSoul said:

Well, I won't be saying anything it took a genius to figure out, but obvious things often go unsaid with Michael, for one reason. Because he is not taken seriously by intellectuals he has never really had any serious book written about him. He has never had his work analysed in the way that Bob Dylan, The Beatles, etc. have. Therefore there are huge points which haven't really been made and probably haven't even occurred to most people. Even Madonna in the early '90s had loads of academics studying her. Michael has never had that, because most highbrows see him as a kiddie artist. After he dies you might get some serious studies done on the man and his work, but so far there haven't been any, which is why my insights will seem incredible to you although they're really just common sense. It's no ego, son. Just clear thinking. Stay tuned. I'll try and get round to it sometime this week.

midnightmover said:

NO one takes madonna seriously as an artist.