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Thread started 10/13/08 11:35am

datdude

This Can't Be Good by Janet

finally copped Discipline used and i'm feelin' this track. reminds me of Michael at times. but i like the vibe and the track stuck with upon first listen. Actually the 1st half of the album is pretty good. i don't listen to anything near the end except What's Ur Name
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Reply #1 posted 10/13/08 11:37am

MikeMatronik

I like album alot. It's her best since The Velvet Rope.
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Reply #2 posted 10/13/08 12:22pm

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MikeMatronik said:

I like album alot. It's her best since The Velvet Rope.



I agree....unfortunatley sad
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Reply #3 posted 10/13/08 12:24pm

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I like this song and I even tho it’s about being on the brink of love or a journey with a new lover it makes me sad so I never played it much.
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Reply #4 posted 10/13/08 2:13pm

shesoffthewall

Really nice song, more "quiet storm" stations should be playing this.
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Reply #5 posted 10/13/08 2:16pm

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It's my favourite track on the album.
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Reply #6 posted 10/13/08 2:17pm

MikeMatronik

Rock with u is my jam! shame it flopped! sad

I'd love to see janet do more songs like this and slolove
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Reply #7 posted 10/13/08 2:23pm

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MikeMatronik said:

Rock with u is my jam! shame it flopped! sad

I'd love to see janet do more songs like this and slolove
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I've always liked Rock Witchu, it's so underappreciated as well as slolove which I love.
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Reply #8 posted 10/13/08 2:26pm

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Also my favourite track of the album. But that beat would be even better with Michael's voice.
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Reply #9 posted 10/13/08 2:47pm

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shesoffthewall said:

MikeMatronik said:

Rock with u is my jam! shame it flopped! sad

I'd love to see janet do more songs like this and slolove
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I've always liked Rock Witchu, it's so underappreciated as well as slolove which I love.


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Reply #10 posted 10/13/08 3:46pm

NMusiqNSoul

Great song when I let my cousin hear it at first he thought Michael was in the background vocals or some, I said nope. lol
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Reply #11 posted 10/13/08 3:51pm

Timmy84

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Great song when I let my cousin hear it at first he thought Michael was in the background vocals or some, I said nope. lol


You heard that slowed-up version supposedly to make it seem like Michael singing it? lol
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Reply #12 posted 10/13/08 3:59pm

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Timmy84 said:

NMusiqNSoul said:

Great song when I let my cousin hear it at first he thought Michael was in the background vocals or some, I said nope. lol


You heard that slowed-up version supposedly to make it seem like Michael singing it? lol


Yep, what they did they just did a lower the pitch and slow it down with an audio program, lol, did sound like Mike though, well... Maybe a drunk Mike though. Haha. lol
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Reply #13 posted 10/13/08 4:00pm

Timmy84

NMusiqNSoul said:

Timmy84 said:



You heard that slowed-up version supposedly to make it seem like Michael singing it? lol


Yep, what they did they just did a lower the pitch and slow it down with an audio program, lol, did sound like Mike though, well... Maybe a drunk Mike though. Haha. lol


That's what I'm saying. lol
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Reply #14 posted 10/13/08 7:14pm

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MikeMatronik said:

I like album alot. It's her best since The Velvet Rope.

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Actually, the more I think about it, I think it's more consistent than that one. hmmm
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Reply #15 posted 10/14/08 7:40am

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shesoffthewall said:

MikeMatronik said:

Rock with u is my jam! shame it flopped! sad

I'd love to see janet do more songs like this and slolove
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I've always liked Rock Witchu, it's so underappreciated as well as slolove which I love.



My little brother loves that song
Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records.
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Reply #16 posted 10/14/08 9:22am

Copycat

Warm vocals, catchy chorus, but overall I found it to be somewhat repetitive.
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Reply #17 posted 10/14/08 4:01pm

datdude

was Rockwichu officially a single with a vid? (i'm halfway in the loop and halfway out) lol
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Reply #18 posted 10/14/08 8:12pm

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datdude said:

was Rockwichu officially a single with a vid? (i'm halfway in the loop and halfway out) lol


Yes it was. I think most Janet fans were wanting Luv to be
released as a single too.
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Reply #19 posted 10/14/08 8:29pm

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Can't Be Good feels good when I hear it
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Reply #20 posted 10/16/08 2:19pm

datdude

there MIGHT be some industry "blacklisting" going on, i know things have changed but Rockwichu, 2Nite, Luv, could and should all be top 10 singles.
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Reply #21 posted 10/16/08 3:52pm

alphastreet

I love that album, to me it is her best since All For You, I love all the songs on it start to finish, I haven't been like that with a janet album in awhile
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Reply #22 posted 10/16/08 4:16pm

Timmy84

phunkdaddy said:

datdude said:

was Rockwichu officially a single with a vid? (i'm halfway in the loop and halfway out) lol


Yes it was. I think most Janet fans were wanting Luv to be
released as a single too.


Pretty much. And that's when things started to go wrong.
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Reply #23 posted 10/16/08 5:35pm

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paisleypark4 said:

MikeMatronik said:

I like album alot. It's her best since The Velvet Rope.



I agree....unfortunatley sad

I agree too and this song is one of the best tracks on the CD. No question about it.
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Reply #24 posted 10/16/08 6:10pm

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Feedback was released WAY to early. But we know that.

But where they royally fucked up was with "Rock With You." I find the whole "Rock With You" situation curious. First off, why "RTW" as second single? It's got an electronic, house, dance music vibe a la Confessions on a Dancefloor - and we all know how that did at radio. This is the type of track that no matter what, would NEVER get lots of airtime on US radio right now. It just wouldn't. Also - fact she would do a song called "Rock With You?" I found that so bizarre fromt the beginning. Did I hear somewhere it was originally produced by Jermaine Dupri for "20 YO?" It seems like it would have fit with the vibe of "Weekend." Anyhow, sounds like such a JD idea - do a song with the same title as an MJ classic for 2008. Why would she agree to that? So much of her career since 1993 has been about DIVORCING herself from MJ's shadow and image. She has gone by just "Janet" for 15 years, said she wanted to outsell "Thriller," has all but abandoned his pop influence for a more 'urban' sound, done the freaky sex thing compared to his childhood fantasy image - and then she goes and does a song called "Rock With You?" Then names her TOUR after it - but without the proper spelling? "Rock Witchu?" Like "Roll Witchu?" One of her best b sides that also would have been a hit, but I digress. I just don't get it. The single and it's horrid video just killed any momentum that "Discipline" had. After a soft first week that still hit number one, they should have immediately released a video and full blown promo campaign for the second single, which could have been ANY NUMBER OF GREAT SONGS FROM THE ALBUM - "Luv," "Rollercoaster," "Can't B Good," "The Greatest Ex Ever," "The 1," or "Whats Ur Name," - and the go with "Rock With You?" Huh?

I still say it should have been

Feedback (preview 1st single a la Silly Ho)
Luv (1st official single - would have KILLED at radio)
The Greatest Ex Ever (2nd single - Totally has a top 40 vibe to it - could be another "Again")
RollerCoaster
Can't B Good (could have easily been a smash) had it followed other hits

But JD fucked that shit up. Or LA. Or both.
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Reply #25 posted 10/16/08 6:22pm

Timmy84

I have to go with all three: JD, LA and JJ. lol

They're the reasons Discipline failed to do what it was supposed to do. See we can blame it on the Super Bowl all we want to and the so-called radio blacklisting but Janet had a chance to make well on this album, people downloaded "Feedback" so much it hit the top 20 and that was the first single of Janet's to do that since "Someone to Call My Lover" six and a half years ago. And "LUV" got a very strong response from fans and critics alike. I'm convinced JD and Janet thought with that song that it would get people interested but it didn't. Instead the second single drew people away. Much like what "So Excited" did for "20 Y.O."

There were way better singles on "Discipline" than to just release "Rock Wit U", it would've been better as a dance club-only single for the CLUBS.
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Reply #26 posted 10/16/08 9:25pm

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I've been playing more Janet lately than I have since Damita Jo came out, and I've come to the conclusion that she just doesn't have the drive that she once had. Maybe it's cause she's finally happy and in a stable relationship (and good for her, if that's true), or maybe it's just because she's been in the biz since she was a child (and that's understandable, too). But the Janet of 1993 never would've put out 20 Y0 and Discipline. They're too dated, too generic, too overthought and overproduced. The synth guitar on "Never letchu Go" (can you believe that she named a song THAT?) is easily the cheesiest moment on a Janet song EVER, even moreso that Whoops Now, Special, and Livin in a World put together. I can't believe that she'd ever record something like that and put it out on her "comeback" album.

Even stuff like Would You Mind and Love Scene that were less songs than excuses to orgasm on record at least sounded good. The second half of Discipline and most of 20 YO are head-scratchingly turgid. It's just puzzling to me; I expect Prince's new music to sound dated and generic, because he at least writes and produces it all himself. He's in his own hermetically sealed bubble, and that's a more valid excuse than having all of the "of the moment" artists writing stuff for you that sounds like bad Boyz II Men songs from 1994 that the second part of Discipline consists of. Where is the quality control that made everything from Control to Janet turn to gold, and at least made Velvet Rope come off sounding edgy? All For You could be accepted as a momentarly lapse, and Damita Jo was a fun, party record. But her latest output is so generic, and so bland that I'm shocked that a pop star of her calbier would release it unless they were so distanced and so dissatisfied with their career that they just didn't care anymore.

So that's where I am with Miss Janet. I saw her three times on the All For You tour, I bought EVERYTHING with her name on it for years, and I'm to the point where I don't even care to click on links with her name in them now. It's bizarre.
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Reply #27 posted 10/16/08 9:35pm

shesoffthewall

I wonder why people always diss "Livin' In A World." I love that song, it's so touching and makes me shed a tear.
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Reply #28 posted 10/16/08 10:38pm

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Axchi696 said:

The synth guitar on "Never letchu Go" (can you believe that she named a song THAT?) is easily the cheesiest moment on a Janet song EVER, even moreso that Whoops Now, Special, and Livin in a World put together.

She didn't name or write any of the songs on Discipline. So, blame her for liking it, not writing it
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Reply #29 posted 10/17/08 5:10am

alphastreet

everyone was saying her work with jimmy and terry was getting redundant, so even though she changed producers completely, people still have a problem with it. I don't think anything is wrong with the music on Discipline and it would have fit in perfectly with mainstream musically if it were promoted right

Although Rock Witchu is one of my favourites on the album and I love the video, I didn't want that to be the second single either. I think 2nite or Luv would have made a good second single. Can't Be Good, Greatest Ex and So Much Betta would have also made good releases.
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