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PrintableBfunkthe1 said: Sdldawn said: listening to it for the first time.. it skips through alot of genre's..
beautiful album Is this out? Hmmmm. 
Do you like better than CACITB and MAF? well.. I would say its like neither.. its really different.. To me, its better than MAF, but doesn't hold together like Choas... but its just the first few listens. this is a little bit more "cooler" than MAF..  he sounds better | |
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He uses his vocals in a very unique way on a few of these.. i'll post a few words about each track to give peeps idea of what its like soon.. | |
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Here's my brief description of the album.. It has lots of breathing space. The songs pace at a good speed. Every song slips into a different genre, and it is heavily layered.. the entire album.
Nothing Too Much - Bluesy Rock song. It's more rockin of paul than most of his solo career in the last 10 years or so. The songs theme is about someone "betraying him".. He is pretty much screaming in a lot of it. Good bass playing, Harmonicas giving that soulful rock sound. It starts the album out on a dark note.. and more darkness floats through this creative album. Two Magpies - Starts out as a home demo, then goes into a classic McCartney acoustic track.. Reminiscent of his McCartney solo/ Ram days.. This track has grown on me, I have been catching myself humming it more than often lately.. I think it has a classic feel. It has a folksy jazz thing going.. The song ends on the home demo sound with perhaps his little girl talking in the backgound. Sing The Changes - This sounds more like the usual McCartney, but it has a refreshing and uplifting presence to it that sometimes he attempts but can't usually find. I think it's a pretty inspiring song. "Feel the choir, feel the thunder.. Ever Ladder leads a heaven".. Traveling Light - This is where the album takes and interesting approach. This is one is pretty experimental. distant Pianos, sound effects, even sounds like perhaps a melotron.. a melancholy vibe with Paul starting the song out with a deep raspy voice that he has never used up until this point. "I swim in a blue sea, I walk on the sand, I fly through the blue sky, to wherever you land" The song takes a slight shift into a different key, and transcends into a floaty sounding song. This song has alot of breathing space. It takes its time to start and finish.. Highway - It starts off in a very normal sounding rock song that he has turned out since the 90's.. but the song turns a little more "cool" as the song progresses. After the 2 minute mark, the song has some pretty interesting drum moments, and it took an interesting turn and finished the song out very nicely with him singin about "birds getting higher, the sun is rising again" Light From Your Lighthouse - This could be my least favorite, but I still enjoy it. Paul has a some very dark voices with this usual singing voice. In fact, throughout the entire album he brings a very different vocal approach. This is a honky tonk sounding song.. Sun Is Shining - Song starts out with layered guitars, after about a minute of strumming, the song starts out with Paul being inspired by the morning sun. I am enjoying the fact that he took simple ideas and kept them simple making each song very effective. The song is very classic McCartney melody worthy. A highlight. Dance Till We're High - Another unusual sounding song. This song has some strange vocals going, but turns into a beautiful melody about lighting up the sky with a message. I hear some strings in parts.. Paul seems very inspired on this album. Life Long Passion - Very synth loaded song. This was a very obvious improv, song, but I actually think it's one of the best. Has a very ethnic sound to it. percussion are spot on. Beautiful vocals. Is This Love - This song is highly meditative. Starts out with flute sounds, and turns into this dreamy song that probably could have come out the 70's. No major vocals.. Although he brings back that chorus of voices he seems to have throughout the entire album. Lots of cool sounds going in and out of this.. The vocals are laced within the instruments. Lovers in a Dream - song starts out with a wicked sound, almost as if something is crying in a distant ocean.. The song starts up with a dance beat with minimal singing. This is in the same vein as the Rushes album. Universal Here - Starts out with a piano, then some interesting sound effects that abruptly interupt his piano playing.. sortof creepy sounding.. This is an instrumental song but his vocals are still deep within the layers. I even hear the "When You Least Expect It" from the female vocals in Rushes, although its paul saying it this time. The Song ends with the same piano playing. Don't Stop Running - Okay, This is a highlight.. I can't really describe this one, but Paul has never, ever had a song like this one. It has swirling sounds, beautiful melody, and a rocking beat to it. He begins it singing it almost like an angel, then the beat builds and builds. The best song on the album. Hidden Track - Bout 2 minutes long.. I wouldn't call this a song, its more like layered sound effects. Paul is whispering something backwards to end the album. I am impressed. I didn't see this one coming. For me, this album song after song is impressive. It reflects a paul I wish we could see more. Not only is his songwriting in top form, it was produced very well. I think Youth brought alot to the table, and this album is a highlight of his solo career for me. [Edited 10/31/08 23:46pm] | |
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I have to say I really like this album. I'm very impressed.
The first half of album is very Macca from differnt periods still with an experimental vibe to it. The second half is pretty much The Fireman side of things. Etheral, spacey, worldly, more experimental and so un-like what most expect from Macca. Another thing I noticed is his voice is mostly tucked in the mix almost as to disguise who the artist is. I've been waiting for something like this from him for a long time. Chaos touched on it Memory hinted at it but this is it. This was's for the tokers. Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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Bfunkthe1 said: I have to say I really like this album. I'm very impressed.
The first half of album is very Macca from different periods still with an experimental vibe to it. The second half is pretty much The Fireman side of things. Ethereal, spacey, worldly, more experimental and so unlike what most expect from Macca. Another thing I noticed is his voice is mostly tucked in the mix almost as to disguise who the artist is. I've been waiting for something like this from him for a long time. Chaos touched on it Memory hinted at it but this is it. This was's for the tokers. I meant this one's for the tokers. 
BTW, my roommate ask me two different times during the course of the album who it was. By the end of the album, he thought I had switched to something else. I.E., it's pretty eclectic. Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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Bfunkthe1 said: Bfunkthe1 said: I have to say I really like this album. I'm very impressed.
The first half of album is very Macca from different periods still with an experimental vibe to it. The second half is pretty much The Fireman side of things. Ethereal, spacey, worldly, more experimental and so unlike what most expect from Macca. Another thing I noticed is his voice is mostly tucked in the mix almost as to disguise who the artist is. I've been waiting for something like this from him for a long time. Chaos touched on it Memory hinted at it but this is it. This was's for the tokers. I meant this one's for the tokers.
BTW, my roommate ask me two different times during the course of the album who it was. By the end of the album, he thought I had switched to something else. I.E., it's pretty eclectic. I'm with you on that. I think Chaos has a pretty emotional part of it for me, I'm really connected to that album, and whats stunning is that this one comes very close. MAF kindof washes to the side.. | |
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Electric Arguments sounds like what I wanted Chaos and MAF to sound like. I do like both though but this new one is more to my liking. Love the soundscapes combined with Macca's melodies. Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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Bfunkthe1 said: Electric Arguments sounds like what I wanted Chaos and MAF to sound like. I do like both though but this new one is more to my liking. Love the soundscapes combined with Macca's melodies.
what is your favorites so far? | |
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Sdldawn said: Bfunkthe1 said: Electric Arguments sounds like what I wanted Chaos and MAF to sound like. I do like both though but this new one is more to my liking. Love the soundscapes combined with Macca's melodies.
what is your favorites so far? Hmmm. Probably EA. At least at this point. I'm a huge fan of electronic based soundscapes and world music elements and EA has all that plus more. It's maybe a little unfair to pick one as I've only listened a few times but as it stands, EA. Chaos was a maybe a little too melancholy and MAF doesn't seem to stick as much as other stuff. Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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Sdldawn said: Bfunkthe1 said: Electric Arguments sounds like what I wanted Chaos and MAF to sound like. I do like both though but this new one is more to my liking. Love the soundscapes combined with Macca's melodies.
what is your favorites so far? Sorry. misread your question. I thought you meant which is my fave of Chao,MAF and EA. Two Magpies: an instant classic. Traveling Light: great ethereal stuff. Highway: a nod to classic Beatles songs like Drive My Car and Taxman. Lifelong Passion: As close to a Sting or Peter Gabriel type song than I've ever heard Macca do. And pretty much the last 3 tracks as they represent the experimental instrumental stuff I like. Great way to end the album. Feels like you've taken a journey. And a peaceful one at that. Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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Bfunkthe1 said: Sdldawn said: what is your favorites so far? Sorry. misread your question. I thought you meant which is my fave of Chao,MAF and EA. Two Magpies: an instant classic. Traveling Light: great ethereal stuff. Highway: a nod to classic Beatles songs like Drive My Car and Taxman. Lifelong Passion: As close to a Sting or Peter Gabriel type song than I've ever heard Macca do. And pretty much the last 3 tracks as they represent the experimental instrumental stuff I like. Great way to end the album. Feels like you've taken a journey. And a peaceful one at that. I agree with that, I think the last track is amazing sounding.. I don't think I have ever heard paul sound like that.. it's a great album. | |
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I give this 4.5 out of 5.
Paul is up for album of the year for me.. this one is it! oh and btw.. in Sing The changes at the 2:30 mark.. where it's just the instruments playing.. how beautiful  [Edited 11/2/08 21:50pm] | |
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i have the first 2 firemen discs
look forward to this one | |
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Mmh... I don't like it as much as I'd like to. I admire Paul for what he does but I find teh sound strange. It's not electronic at all or dancey... The songs are weaker than his ususal stuff.
So it's no surprise that the only song I really like is Two Magpies. Pauly seems to have a thing with birds, right? Blackbird, Bluebird, Jenny Wren, Two Magpies... | |
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graecophilos said: Mmh... I don't like it as much as I'd like to. I admire Paul for what he does but I find teh sound strange. It's not electronic at all or dancey... The songs are weaker than his ususal stuff.
So it's no surprise that the only song I really like is Two Magpies. Pauly seems to have a thing with birds, right? Blackbird, Bluebird, Jenny Wren, Two Magpies... lotta birds in england  | |
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Rolling Stone Review - 4 Stars out of 5
After a decade-plus hiatus, Sir Paul revives his low-profile, weed-scented collaboration with superproducer Youth (U2, the Orb), retrofitting their abstract electronica with good ol' psychedelic rock for the ex-Beatle's headiest music in years. "Nothing Too Much Just Out of Sight" throws "Helter Skelter" hollering over electric blues. "Two Magpies" joins "Blackbird" in McCartney's folksy aviary; "Sing the Changes" is catchy, woozy pop. The set peaks with "Travelling Light," a magical mystery tour of reverbed chants, slide-guitar swoops, kalimbas and chimes. It's freak folk by a forefather. | |
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Picked mine up today. Stellar quality on silver back.
Huge booklet with it! | |
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Allmusic Review 4.5 out of 5 stars (Allmusic Album pick)
----- Ever since the early days of the Beatles, Paul McCartney has known the value of a pseudonym, famously registering into hotels under the surname Ramone and pushing the Fab Four to act like another band for Sgt. Pepper. This carried through to his solo career, where he released a couple odd singles while flitting back and forth with Wings, but he never again embraced the freedom of disguise like he did with Sgt. Pepper until 2008, when he put out the Fireman's Electric Arguments. McCartney created the Fireman alias with Youth back in the mid-'90s when electronica was all the rage and Macca hesitated dipping his toe in the water on his own LPs. A decade after Rushes, he revived the Fireman moniker not to cut another electronic record but to put out what in effect was McCartney III: a weird clearinghouse of experiments, jokes, detours, and rough-hewn pop. McCartney and Youth recorded Electric Arguments quickly -- not so much in a brief, weeklong blast of activity, but spending one day on each of the 13 tracks, writing and recording within a 24-hour period. This speed is the opposite of his ambitious 2000s projects Chaos and Creation in the Backyard and Memory Almost Full, both accomplished, carefully considered albums constructed with a broad audience in mind, if not necessarily the charts. As its release under McCartney's pseudonym makes plain, Electric Arguments wasn't intended for a large audience; he did this for himself, just like he did the two McCartney albums and even Ram, three records that had loose ends and odd detours, just like this does. This revival is announced boldly by the thumping, full-throated blues-rocker "Nothing Too Much Just Out of Sight," but it's not just that McCartney has gotten loud again -- things that McCartney has shied away from over the past two decades suddenly reappear, like the simple, sweet intimacy of "Two Magpies," the grinding rocker "Highway," which finds its loose-legged laid-back cousin in "Light from Your Lighthouse," and a fondness for lazy jazz. He's telling jokes and making noise -- and if you dig underneath the surface it's possible to hear references to his bitter divorce from Heather Mills, a situation he cheerfully ignored on Memory Almost Full -- but this is not merely a McCartney pop album under another name; it is indeed a collaboration with Youth, so this veers off into rather experimental territory, especially toward the end of the album, as it floats away on the circular "Lovers in a Dream" and gets claustrophobic on "Universal Here, Everlasting Now." McCartney and Youth often strike a delicate balance between these two inclinations, and they're some of the best moments on the album: the delicate waltz of "Travelling Light," the surging "Sing the Changes" (which matches U2 for melodrama), the wall of sound on "Dance 'Til We're High," and the beautiful, meditative "Lifelong Passion (Sail Away)." There are more twists and turns, more textures, than on any other McCartney album in the last 20 years, and if it's a little messy, so be it: it's better to have Paul letting it all hang out instead of hanging back. | |
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Sdldawn said: Picked mine up today. Stellar quality on silver back.
Huge booklet with it! what does the booklet feature? His paintings?? | |
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Sdldawn said: Picked mine up today. Stellar quality on silver back.
Huge booklet with it! Me too. Haven't opened it up yet. So does the silver back sound different than ummm...early version you had before? I don't mind saying I "test drive" before buying. Times are tough. Anyway, If I really like a project, I purchase. And it almost always sounds better. Plus I like album artwork,liner notes etc. I guess I'm old school like that. Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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Sdldawn said: Bob Gannons Review
Hi gang, After giving it a couple of listens, decided to post my thoughts on the upcoming Fireman album "Electric Arguments". First off, this is nothing like the first two Fireman projects "Strawberry Oceans Ships Forest" or "Rushes". Besides the fact that there are vocals on these tracks, the tracks also bounce around different music genres. Although I wouldn't describe anything on this album as a classic McCartney track (or anything that would reach the charts...on any chat that is), Id be remiss in saying that there wasn't anything interesting here. The casual McCartney fan may not be too appreciative of the album but I think this is more for the hardcore fan. I think that they will find the inner joy in this album as there are some fun tracks here. The press page states that the album of thirteen tracks recorded in thirteen days over the period of nearly a year. Each track was written and recorded in the space of one day. (01) Nothing too much just out of sight (4:56)--- well most of us have heard this track on the web as this was the second track leaked off the album. Heavy guitar riffs and rock sound over screaming Macca vocals. Also a booming bass guitar. I think this is a fun album starter giving the feel of a live jam session. It also declares right away that this album is not the ordinary Fireman fare. (02) Two Magpies (2:14)---right off the bat, a drastic change in direction. An acoustic ditty that sounds very jazzy. A breezy vocal that I think most people will enjoy. Another track that bears no resemblance of the prior Fireman projects. This has a familiar Macca feel to it. (03) Sing the changes (3:45)---this is the third track leaked off the album. The start kind of sounds the same as "Lifelong Passion" but it quickly shows how different it is. Faster paced and again much different than the track that precedes it. Bass and drums feature heavily in this track. Another mediocre track but certainly not bad by any means (04) Traveling Light ( 5:07)---we slow down again to a song driven over a smooth groove with a flute sound driving the track. Macca's vocal is very understated giving it a kind of dreamy feel. (05) Highway (4:1---once again we change the pace going back to a heavy guitar driven song. Another track that won't jump out and grab you but a fun listen (06) Light from your lighthouse (2:33)---heavy vocal effect giving Macca's voice a very different feel. the chorus reminds me of "Midnight Special". You'll see what I mean. Kind of the same feels instrumentally as well, a fun country/blues sounding track. Very bouncy and fun (07) Sun is Shining (5:13)---a light acoustic guitar with bird chirping starts the track off. Then a light electric guitar and bass into a light dance groove. Echo effect on vocals gives it an airy feel. One of the better tracks on the album (08 Dance til we're high (3:39)---acoustic guitar over a heavy bass riff. Another vocal effect on Macca's voice. With some nice strings (probably synthesizer). I think this one is the best track. I real like this one. (09) Lifelong Passion (4:50)---The adopt a minefield charity track. Pretty much everyone has heard this one. One of the better tracks on this album. Slow groove that sounds to me that it may be Indian influenced.Also a very light, breezy quality to it and a nice easy listen. (10) Is this love? (5:53)---a light flute sound, very Celtic sounding. This is a track I could see used in a movie soundtrack as incidental music. Heavy echo effect on Macca's voice making it difficult to hear the lyrics (11) Lovers in a dream (5:23)---Closer to a traditional Fireman track. Heavy electric sounds over a ambient dance groove. Vocals muffled and hidden in the track (12) Universal here, everlasting now (5:07)---starts off with a piano and then some random noise effects (dogs barking, growling, birds chirping, alarm clock going off, person whispering) Very Electric sound, and then build in to a classic dance beat. More of the classic Fireman sound. Fades out with the single piano again (13) Don't stop running (10:32)---starts off slow and dreamy with an Electric ambient sound. Sounds like it may be Celtic influenced. An airy vocal gives it a dreamlike effect and then transitions into a more classic sounding Fireman beat. Track fades out at (5:54) but either a continuation or bonus track begins at (7:57). Doesn't sound like the prior song. Without liner notes I couldn't say. Well, that's it. The new Fireman album in a nutshell. Even with all of the changes, it is exactly like the press release said, it gels nicely and seems to fit together nicely. I don't want to get everyone excited and say this is the best Macca yet but I certainly will say that most of the people on this list will like it in my opinion. Bob [Edited 10/28/08 19:08pm] Great album. Except you fail to mention Youth once? Two people created this album ya numpty. Macca and legendary Producer/Bass player Martin "Youth" Glover of Killing Joke fame. Do you honestly think Macca could have produced something as eclectic and bad-ass as this by himself? No chance. Do your homework when reviewing albums. Other than not mentioning the most important aspect of this album thumbs up for bringing it to light. | |
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Sdldawn said: in my opinion.
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Fiend said: Sdldawn said: Bob Gannons Review
Hi gang, After giving it a couple of listens, decided to post my thoughts on the upcoming Fireman album "Electric Arguments". First off, this is nothing like the first two Fireman projects "Strawberry Oceans Ships Forest" or "Rushes". Besides the fact that there are vocals on these tracks, the tracks also bounce around different music genres. Although I wouldn't describe anything on this album as a classic McCartney track (or anything that would reach the charts...on any chat that is), Id be remiss in saying that there wasn't anything interesting here. The casual McCartney fan may not be too appreciative of the album but I think this is more for the hardcore fan. I think that they will find the inner joy in this album as there are some fun tracks here. The press page states that the album of thirteen tracks recorded in thirteen days over the period of nearly a year. Each track was written and recorded in the space of one day. (01) Nothing too much just out of sight (4:56)--- well most of us have heard this track on the web as this was the second track leaked off the album. Heavy guitar riffs and rock sound over screaming Macca vocals. Also a booming bass guitar. I think this is a fun album starter giving the feel of a live jam session. It also declares right away that this album is not the ordinary Fireman fare. (02) Two Magpies (2:14)---right off the bat, a drastic change in direction. An acoustic ditty that sounds very jazzy. A breezy vocal that I think most people will enjoy. Another track that bears no resemblance of the prior Fireman projects. This has a familiar Macca feel to it. (03) Sing the changes (3:45)---this is the third track leaked off the album. The start kind of sounds the same as "Lifelong Passion" but it quickly shows how different it is. Faster paced and again much different than the track that precedes it. Bass and drums feature heavily in this track. Another mediocre track but certainly not bad by any means (04) Traveling Light ( 5:07)---we slow down again to a song driven over a smooth groove with a flute sound driving the track. Macca's vocal is very understated giving it a kind of dreamy feel. (05) Highway (4:1---once again we change the pace going back to a heavy guitar driven song. Another track that won't jump out and grab you but a fun listen (06) Light from your lighthouse (2:33)---heavy vocal effect giving Macca's voice a very different feel. the chorus reminds me of "Midnight Special". You'll see what I mean. Kind of the same feels instrumentally as well, a fun country/blues sounding track. Very bouncy and fun (07) Sun is Shining (5:13)---a light acoustic guitar with bird chirping starts the track off. Then a light electric guitar and bass into a light dance groove. Echo effect on vocals gives it an airy feel. One of the better tracks on the album (08 Dance til we're high (3:39)---acoustic guitar over a heavy bass riff. Another vocal effect on Macca's voice. With some nice strings (probably synthesizer). I think this one is the best track. I real like this one. (09) Lifelong Passion (4:50)---The adopt a minefield charity track. Pretty much everyone has heard this one. One of the better tracks on this album. Slow groove that sounds to me that it may be Indian influenced.Also a very light, breezy quality to it and a nice easy listen. (10) Is this love? (5:53)---a light flute sound, very Celtic sounding. This is a track I could see used in a movie soundtrack as incidental music. Heavy echo effect on Macca's voice making it difficult to hear the lyrics (11) Lovers in a dream (5:23)---Closer to a traditional Fireman track. Heavy electric sounds over a ambient dance groove. Vocals muffled and hidden in the track (12) Universal here, everlasting now (5:07)---starts off with a piano and then some random noise effects (dogs barking, growling, birds chirping, alarm clock going off, person whispering) Very Electric sound, and then build in to a classic dance beat. More of the classic Fireman sound. Fades out with the single piano again (13) Don't stop running (10:32)---starts off slow and dreamy with an Electric ambient sound. Sounds like it may be Celtic influenced. An airy vocal gives it a dreamlike effect and then transitions into a more classic sounding Fireman beat. Track fades out at (5:54) but either a continuation or bonus track begins at (7:57). Doesn't sound like the prior song. Without liner notes I couldn't say. Well, that's it. The new Fireman album in a nutshell. Even with all of the changes, it is exactly like the press release said, it gels nicely and seems to fit together nicely. I don't want to get everyone excited and say this is the best Macca yet but I certainly will say that most of the people on this list will like it in my opinion. Bob [Edited 10/28/08 19:08pm] Great album. Except you fail to mention Youth once? Two people created this album ya numpty. Macca and legendary Producer/Bass player Martin "Youth" Glover of Killing Joke fame. Do you honestly think Macca could have produced something as eclectic and bad-ass as this by himself? No chance. Do your homework when reviewing albums. Other than not mentioning the most important aspect of this album thumbs up for bringing it to light. yes, you're right. He didn't... now please go back to your crap fest thread about niggy, and don't come up out till we tell you to.  [Edited 11/26/08 10:57am] | |
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what is Two Magpies about?
I like the line: Two magpies... a girl, a boy. One for sorrow, two for joy" | |
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graecophilos said: what is Two Magpies about?
I like the line: Two magpies... a girl, a boy. One for sorrow, two for joy" I think magpie is a type of bird actually | |
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Sdldawn said: now please go back to your crap fest thread about niggy, and don't come up out till we tell you to.
[Edited 11/26/08 10:57am] The amount of times you need to edit a two sentence post disturbs me Mr Sdldawn. I no longer need to go back to the Niggy thread as I already OWNed your ass over there. And I've just done the same here. www.Sdldawnjustgotowned.com | |
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Sdldawn said: I think magpie is a type of bird actually You "think" a Magpie is a bird? OF COURSE IT'S A FRIGGIN BIRD! Where the hell were you educated son? | |
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Fiend said: Sdldawn said: now please go back to your crap fest thread about niggy, and don't come up out till we tell you to.
[Edited 11/26/08 10:57am] The amount of times you need to edit a two sentence post disturbs me Mr Sdldawn. I no longer need to go back to the Niggy thread as I already OWNed your ass over there. And I've just done the same here. www.Sdldawnjustgotowned.com wow, You honestly need a life, and it's really really apparent that I must have hit a nerve with you.. get a life dude | |
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Sdldawn said: Fiend said: The amount of times you need to edit a two sentence post disturbs me Mr Sdldawn. I no longer need to go back to the Niggy thread as I already OWNed your ass over there. And I've just done the same here. www.Sdldawnjustgotowned.com wow, You honestly need a life, and it's really really apparent that I must have hit a nerve with you.. get a life dude I KNOW magpies are birds. I searched for the deeper meaning of the lyrics. Sorry, that's one of the most pretentious answers I ever got. [Edited 11/27/08 11:58am] | |
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