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PrintabledaPrettyman said: shesoffthewall said: Which is why I don't believe the story of low ticket sales... I know the Texas ticket sales are low. So are the Oklahoma sales. I heard on the radio that the Dallas show has only sold around 4,000 seats in a 20,000 seater arena. that may be true but i still dont think all this is about ticket sales,the 1st show she cancelled was like 30 minutes before showtime,they had to have sold enough seats for the show to go on in the 1st place,cancelling shows minutes before showtime means money has already been spent, i doubt livenation or janet would just throw money away instead of just coming up for a reason to cancel. | |
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lowkey said: daPrettyman said: I know the Texas ticket sales are low. So are the Oklahoma sales. I heard on the radio that the Dallas show has only sold around 4,000 seats in a 20,000 seater arena. that may be true but i still dont think all this is about ticket sales,the 1st show she cancelled was like 30 minutes before showtime,they had to have sold enough seats for the show to go on in the 1st place,cancelling shows minutes before showtime means money has already been spent, i doubt livenation or janet would just throw money away instead of just coming up for a reason to cancel. She's sold more than 4k in Dallas. Just did a check on Ticketmaster and the best tickets available (2 together) are Section 116, Row O. That's row 15 in the lower bowl near the back of the arena, Her ticket sales have been good to great for the shows she has done thus far (San Diego and Toronto not included as they haven't been reported yet): Artist: Janet Jackson, Hedspin Venue: General Motors Place City/State: Vancouver, British Columbia Event Date: Sept. 10, 2008 Gross Sales: $927,098 Attend/Capacity: 8,941 / 11,074 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Artist: Janet Jackson, Nelly Venue: Oracle Arena City/State: Oakland, California Event Date: Sept. 13, 2008 Gross Sales: $809,478 Attend/Capacity: 9,430 / 12,282 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Artist: Janet Jackson, LL Cool J Venue: Staples Center City/State: Los Angeles, California Event Date: Sept. 17, 2008 Gross Sales: $1,181,045 Attend/Capacity: 12,109 / 13,025 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Artist: Janet Jackson Venue: Mandalay Bay Events Center City/State: Las Vegas, Nevada Event Date: Sept. 19, 2008 Gross Sales: $1,027,602 Attend/Capacity: 8,065 / 8,168 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Prices: $300.75, $55.75 Artist: Janet Jackson, LL Cool J Venue: Allstate Arena City/State: Rosemont, Illinois Event Date: Sept. 25, 2008 Gross Sales: $792,139 Attend/Capacity: 9,519 / 11,541 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Prices: $129.75, 24.75 TOTAL ATTENDANCE FROM 5 SHOWS: 48,064 TOTAL GROSS FROM 5 SHOWS: $4,737,362 Not exactly numbers that would spur the cancellation of a tour. [Edited 10/13/08 14:08pm] | |
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Then all that's for Janet or her people to do is explain her problem. That shouldn't be hard, right? I mean yeah people are gonna speculate but fuck that, I wanna know what the ailment IS.  | |
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VoicesCarry said: lowkey said: that may be true but i still dont think all this is about ticket sales,the 1st show she cancelled was like 30 minutes before showtime,they had to have sold enough seats for the show to go on in the 1st place,cancelling shows minutes before showtime means money has already been spent, i doubt livenation or janet would just throw money away instead of just coming up for a reason to cancel. She's sold more than 4k in Dallas. Just did a check on Ticketmaster and the best tickets available (2 together) are Section 116, Row O. That's row 15 in the lower bowl near the back of the arena, Her ticket sales have been good to great for the shows she has done thus far (San Diego and Toronto not included as they haven't been reported yet): Artist: Janet Jackson, Hedspin Venue: General Motors Place City/State: Vancouver, British Columbia Event Date: Sept. 10, 2008 Gross Sales: $927,098 Attend/Capacity: 8,941 / 11,074 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Artist: Janet Jackson, Nelly Venue: Oracle Arena City/State: Oakland, California Event Date: Sept. 13, 2008 Gross Sales: $809,478 Attend/Capacity: 9,430 / 12,282 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Artist: Janet Jackson, LL Cool J Venue: Staples Center City/State: Los Angeles, California Event Date: Sept. 17, 2008 Gross Sales: $1,181,045 Attend/Capacity: 12,109 / 13,025 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Artist: Janet Jackson Venue: Mandalay Bay Events Center City/State: Las Vegas, Nevada Event Date: Sept. 19, 2008 Gross Sales: $1,027,602 Attend/Capacity: 8,065 / 8,168 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Prices: $300.75, $55.75 Artist: Janet Jackson, LL Cool J Venue: Allstate Arena City/State: Rosemont, Illinois Event Date: Sept. 25, 2008 Gross Sales: $792,139 Attend/Capacity: 9,519 / 11,541 Shows/Sellouts: 1 / 0 Prices: $129.75, 24.75 TOTAL ATTENDANCE FROM 5 SHOWS: 48,064 TOTAL GROSS FROM 5 SHOWS: $4,737,362 Not exactly numbers that would spur the cancellation of a tour. [Edited 10/13/08 14:08pm] I'm sure she's sold more than 4K tickets in Dallas by now. I heard that number almost 2 weeks ago. Besides, you can't go by what comes up on Ticketmaster's site. Ticketmaster opens up ticket sales in sections. By the time it's the day of the show, they may open up even more sections on the floor/lower levels. I don't buy the ticket sales (completely) either. Maybe it's just Janet didn't schedule the tour properly. I remember when she did the AFY tour, she had a few days inbetween each show. She still had to reschedule a couple of shows, but that was it. [Edited 10/13/08 14:46pm] **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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Timmy84 said: Then all that's for Janet or her people to do is explain her problem. That shouldn't be hard, right? I mean yeah people are gonna speculate but fuck that, I wanna know what the ailment IS.
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Doctor orders Janet Jackson to postpone tour
22 minutes ago LOS ANGELES - The doctor has again ordered Janet Jackson to postpone a return to her "Rock Witchu" tour. Jackson was scheduled to resume her tour Monday night at the Turning Stone Resort in New York after canceling a show over the weekend in Connecticut. A message posted on the resort and casino's Web site stated the show had been canceled at the advice of Jackson's doctor. She has since postponed several shows, including Thursday night's show at Madison Square Garden in New York. Promoters say the dates will be rescheduled. No one is saying what is ailing Jackson, who was rushed to a hospital in Montreal before a concert in late September. Jackson is on her first North American tour in seven years. | |
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Timmy84 said: Then all that's left for Janet or her people to do is explain her problem. That shouldn't be hard, right? I mean yeah people are gonna speculate but fuck that, I wanna know what the ailment IS.
Exactly,The longer she stays silent,the longer these rumors will persist. | |
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SoulAlive said: Timmy84 said: Then all that's left for Janet or her people to do is explain her problem. That shouldn't be hard, right? I mean yeah people are gonna speculate but fuck that, I wanna know what the ailment IS.
Exactly,The longer she stays silent,the longer these rumors will persist. Why a Jackson gotta be mysterious for?  | |
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Timmy84 said: Doctor orders Janet Jackson to postpone tour
22 minutes ago LOS ANGELES - The doctor has again ordered Janet Jackson to postpone a return to her "Rock Witchu" tour. Jackson was scheduled to resume her tour Monday night at the Turning Stone Resort in New York after canceling a show over the weekend in Connecticut. A message posted on the resort and casino's Web site stated the show had been canceled at the advice of Jackson's doctor. She has since postponed several shows, including Thursday night's show at Madison Square Garden in New York. Promoters say the dates will be rescheduled. No one is saying what is ailing Jackson, who was rushed to a hospital in Montreal before a concert in late September. Jackson is on her first North American tour in seven years. This is getting ridiculous.Each day,another show gets cancelled or postponed.Maybe she needs a new doctor who can tell her exactly how long it will be until she can perform again? This day-by-day uncertainty must be really tough for the fans. | |
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Timmy84 said: SoulAlive said: Exactly,The longer she stays silent,the longer these rumors will persist. Why a Jackson gotta be mysterious for? Because she doesn't want us in her business. Besides, it's probably time for her to have "the surgery" that a lot of women have in their 40s. [Edited 10/13/08 16:09pm] **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: Timmy84 said: Why a Jackson gotta be mysterious for? Because she doesn't want us in her business. Besides, it's probably time for her to have "the surgery" that a lot of women have in their 40s. [Edited 10/13/08 16:09pm] This ain't 1993.
I mean if it's pregnancy, maybe I can understand but people keep saying Janet is ready to go back and then she postpones it.
If it's because of the So-So-Def offspring then I can understand, lol! But still you can TELL!
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Evvy said: what happened to the access hollywood thing?
She wasn't on it. Guess it was a lie. That's why I had a question mark in the title. [Edited 10/13/08 17:24pm] | |
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Timmy84 said: Evvy said: what happened to the access hollywood thing?
She wasn't on it. Guess it was a lie. That's why I had a question mark in the title. [Edited 10/13/08 17:24pm] See! Now that's why I said I had a feeling we weren't gonna learn anything. Lots of times those magazine shows repeatedly say 'coming up next' and often there is no 'next' or it's news we already know. So no news is good news, huh? Instead of canceling day by day, maybe it's time to wrap it up. She only has a few dates left anyway. [Edited 10/13/08 17:40pm] Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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Well I guess the rumors will continue,along with the last-minute cancellations.Janet doesn't seem too interested in setting the record straight.I know she's a private person and all,but come on! [Edited 10/13/08 17:33pm] | |
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I could understand the poor ticket sale excuse if she was selling only 40 to 50% of the tickets at each venue, but she was selling about 80%, which isn't quite enough to warrant any cancellation. Plus she canceled one of her shows and went to the hospital just minutes before she was supposed to go on stage. My guess is that she is pregnant right now. That wouldn't be such a big deal in and of itself, but if she is still a practicing Jehovah's Witness, this might be a huge deal to her and her congregation if she hasn't tied the knot yet with Jermaine Dupri.
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728huey said: I could understand the poor ticket sale excuse if she was selling only 40 to 50% of the tickets at each venue, but she was selling about 80%, which isn't quite enough to warrant any cancellation. Plus she canceled one of her shows and went to the hospital just minutes before she was supposed to go on stage. My guess is that she is pregnant right now. That wouldn't be such a big deal in and of itself, but if she is still a practicing Jehovah's Witness, this might be a huge deal to her and her congregation if she hasn't tied the knot yet with Jermaine Dupri.
She ain't been a JW since May 16, 1984. | |
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Timmy84 said: daPrettyman said: Because she doesn't want us in her business. Besides, it's probably time for her to have "the surgery" that a lot of women have in their 40s. [Edited 10/13/08 16:09pm] This ain't 1993.
I mean if it's pregnancy, maybe I can understand but people keep saying Janet is ready to go back and then she postpones it.
If it's because of the So-So-Def offspring then I can understand, lol! But still you can TELL!
Damn. I don't think she's pregnant. I have a feeling that she probably has female issues that are causing her issues (fibroids). I think this because she has a belly. In previous years, J would always get really tight and firm for a tour. This time, she didn't. I also say this because many women in their 40s (some even earlier) tend to have female issues that require attention. A good friend of mine almost died last weekend because of her female problems. She had been going to the doctor and taking care of herself, but collapsed at her home after church. After being rushed to the hospital, her doctor explained that her blood pressure was extremely low and her blood count was low. All of this stemmed from the fibroids. She had planned to have surgery in December, but had to have emergency surgery last week. Anyway...back to the subject. Maybe Janet is going through something like this. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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Timmy84 said: 728huey said: I could understand the poor ticket sale excuse if she was selling only 40 to 50% of the tickets at each venue, but she was selling about 80%, which isn't quite enough to warrant any cancellation. Plus she canceled one of her shows and went to the hospital just minutes before she was supposed to go on stage. My guess is that she is pregnant right now. That wouldn't be such a big deal in and of itself, but if she is still a practicing Jehovah's Witness, this might be a huge deal to her and her congregation if she hasn't tied the knot yet with Jermaine Dupri.
She ain't been a JW since May 16, 1984. Have any of them (with the exception of Rebbie and Katherine)? **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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Timmy84 said: Evvy said: what happened to the access hollywood thing?
She wasn't on it. Guess it was a lie. That's why I had a question mark in the title. [Edited 10/13/08 17:24pm]  Okaaay, well I'm glad I didn't waste my time watching it. | |
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SoulAlive said: Timmy84 said: Doctor orders Janet Jackson to postpone tour
22 minutes ago LOS ANGELES - The doctor has again ordered Janet Jackson to postpone a return to her "Rock Witchu" tour. Jackson was scheduled to resume her tour Monday night at the Turning Stone Resort in New York after canceling a show over the weekend in Connecticut. A message posted on the resort and casino's Web site stated the show had been canceled at the advice of Jackson's doctor. She has since postponed several shows, including Thursday night's show at Madison Square Garden in New York. Promoters say the dates will be rescheduled. No one is saying what is ailing Jackson, who was rushed to a hospital in Montreal before a concert in late September. Jackson is on her first North American tour in seven years. This is getting ridiculous.Each day,another show gets cancelled or postponed.Maybe she needs a new doctor who can tell her exactly how long it will be until she can perform again? This day-by-day uncertainty must be really tough for the fans. This was already reported last week. |
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First of all, almost NO ONE cancels a tour due to poor ticket sales, unless they are iconic figures in music. I have seen bands do FULL tours and having "boxscores" like this 5,500 tickets sold 15,000 capacity, and thats on a good night. So its not so much about how many seats you are selling, its about what its costing you long term. But i think the bigger issue is the "validity" of what you are doing to your fan base, and better yet the "integrity", she doesnt owe any answers or details of what is ailing her, BUT she does have a responsibity of NOT stringing people along and have them reschedule their lives every other day. There is no bigger pain in the ass than getting a charge removed from your credit card for cancelled shows. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: First of all, almost NO ONE cancels a tour due to poor ticket sales, unless they are iconic figures in music. I have seen bands do FULL tours and having "boxscores" like this 5,500 tickets sold 15,000 capacity, and thats on a good night. So its not so much about how many seats you are selling, its about what its costing you long term. But i think the bigger issue is the "validity" of what you are doing to your fan base, and better yet the "integrity", she doesnt owe any answers or details of what is ailing her, BUT she does have a responsibity of NOT stringing people along and have them reschedule their lives every other day. There is no bigger pain in the ass than getting a charge removed from your credit card for cancelled shows.
and you lose money cause service fees are non-refundable..... [Edited 10/13/08 19:27pm] LOVE HARD. | |
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daPrettyman said: Timmy84 said: She ain't been a JW since May 16, 1984. Have any of them (with the exception of Rebbie and Katherine)? Jackie, Tito, Jermaine, Marlon and Randy alongside Janet all left the Witnesses after 18. La Toya left in 1987, as did Michael. So as of now, yes only Rebbie and Katherine are practicing Jehovah's Witnesses. | |
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daPrettyman said: Timmy84 said: This ain't 1993.
I mean if it's pregnancy, maybe I can understand but people keep saying Janet is ready to go back and then she postpones it.
If it's because of the So-So-Def offspring then I can understand, lol! But still you can TELL!
Damn. I don't think she's pregnant. I have a feeling that she probably has female issues that are causing her issues (fibroids). I think this because she has a belly. In previous years, J would always get really tight and firm for a tour. This time, she didn't. I also say this because many women in their 40s (some even earlier) tend to have female issues that require attention. A good friend of mine almost died last weekend because of her female problems. She had been going to the doctor and taking care of herself, but collapsed at her home after church. After being rushed to the hospital, her doctor explained that her blood pressure was extremely low and her blood count was low. All of this stemmed from the fibroids. She had planned to have surgery in December, but had to have emergency surgery last week. Anyway...back to the subject. Maybe Janet is going through something like this. She could but until she or her management decide to explain, we're all left to wonder why she keeps postponing shows like that or why her doctor is scared something bad may happen to her while performing. | |
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I'm thinking about just skipping the show. If she's able to perform on the 15th who's to say she won't relapse and cancel on Friday? I rather just know what I'm doing than have it be up in the air because of the show. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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Evvy said: lastdecember said: First of all, almost NO ONE cancels a tour due to poor ticket sales, unless they are iconic figures in music. I have seen bands do FULL tours and having "boxscores" like this 5,500 tickets sold 15,000 capacity, and thats on a good night. So its not so much about how many seats you are selling, its about what its costing you long term. But i think the bigger issue is the "validity" of what you are doing to your fan base, and better yet the "integrity", she doesnt owe any answers or details of what is ailing her, BUT she does have a responsibity of NOT stringing people along and have them reschedule their lives every other day. There is no bigger pain in the ass than getting a charge removed from your credit card for cancelled shows.
and you lose money cause service fees are non-refundable..... [Edited 10/13/08 19:27pm] Very true, and if you purchased tickets for an event well in advance you are alreaddy paying off that interest lumped on your bill too, which may seem like splitting hairs, in these times that shit adds up. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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JackieBlue said: I'm thinking about just skipping the show. If she's able to perform on the 15th who's to say she won't relapse and cancel on Friday? I rather just know what I'm doing than have it be up in the air because of the show.
Good idea, save your money. Things are more important than trying to find out what a pop star is doing on tour. | |
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daPrettyman said: Timmy84 said: This ain't 1993.
I mean if it's pregnancy, maybe I can understand but people keep saying Janet is ready to go back and then she postpones it.
If it's because of the So-So-Def offspring then I can understand, lol! But still you can TELL!
Damn. I don't think she's pregnant. I have a feeling that she probably has female issues that are causing her issues (fibroids). I think this because she has a belly. In previous years, J would always get really tight and firm for a tour. This time, she didn't. I also say this because many women in their 40s (some even earlier) tend to have female issues that require attention. A good friend of mine almost died last weekend because of her female problems. She had been going to the doctor and taking care of herself, but collapsed at her home after church. After being rushed to the hospital, her doctor explained that her blood pressure was extremely low and her blood count was low. All of this stemmed from the fibroids. She had planned to have surgery in December, but had to have emergency surgery last week. Anyway...back to the subject. Maybe Janet is going through something like this. Stop eating meat, chicken, fish, dairy, fast food.. Birth contol pills...Hormone inducers..etc. Eat raw veggies. Women should eat less protein than men. Now matter how much you work-out.. Acidic-blood is a breeding-ground for tumors and cancers, not to mention heart-disease, stokes, flus, colds.. Get your blood Alkaline. The creator YHWH, did not create chemo-therapy and surgery in the garden..lol. I've read an articel in which Janet stated that she at Catfish, and stop eating vegetarian/vegan like the rest of her family.. Catfish is an abomination. It is the pig of the sea. It is a garbage-compactor. [Edited 10/13/08 19:52pm] | |
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Linn4days said: daPrettyman said: I don't think she's pregnant. I have a feeling that she probably has female issues that are causing her issues (fibroids). I think this because she has a belly. In previous years, J would always get really tight and firm for a tour. This time, she didn't. I also say this because many women in their 40s (some even earlier) tend to have female issues that require attention. A good friend of mine almost died last weekend because of her female problems. She had been going to the doctor and taking care of herself, but collapsed at her home after church. After being rushed to the hospital, her doctor explained that her blood pressure was extremely low and her blood count was low. All of this stemmed from the fibroids. She had planned to have surgery in December, but had to have emergency surgery last week. Anyway...back to the subject. Maybe Janet is going through something like this. Stop eating meat, chicken, fish, dairy, fast food.. Birth contol pills...Hormone inducers..etc. Eat raw veggies. Women should eat less protein than men. Now matter how much you work-out.. Acidic-blood is a breeding-ground for tumors and cancers, not to mention heart-disease, stokes, flus, colds.. Get your blood Alkaline. The creator YHWH, did not create chemo-therapy and surgery in the garden..lol. I've read an articel in which Janet stated that she at Catfish, and stop eating vegetarian/vegan like the rest of her family.. Catfish is an abomination. It is the pig of the sea. It is a garbage-compactor. [Edited 10/13/08 19:52pm] Yeah, her family raised her on a vegetarian diet. All the other Jacksons are mainly vegetarians. | |
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