JackieBlue said:

It seemed like "Damita Jo" could have been that but it was weighed down by a bunch of boring R&B (thank you, Kayne West....not exactly his most inspired work) and shit ass sex ballads (just two but one of them, "Warmth", was awful!).

Its very simple, all these artists with longevity HAVE TO ACCEPT a time when they are not going to be sellers, or the big name in town, and they have to adjust to that, not necessarily changing sound or direction but not to try to be like the acts of the day, its that simple.

.....Maybe when record companies start employing more music majors to fill their higher positions instead of mostly law and business school grads, maybe the music will get better. Just my

lastdecember said:

Some of the artists may have but their fans haven't.

estelle81 said:

That is so well said. The law and business school grads probably also explain for all the greed and just down right disgust that goes on with record companies. I'm sure there are some honest law and business grads out there, but the labels wouldn't take them. Greedy people like greedy people.

Sade

lilgish said:

Cinnie said:

I mean really, if she wasn't that fine, how many people would be feeling that lounge bullshit.

lilgish said:

Her voice is gorgeous too! I like Sade's songs but we don't need another Sade.

Her voice is gorgeous too! I like Sade's songs but we don't need another Sade.

Cinnie said:

It's gorgeous for the type of music she sings. She exudes a vibe, no doubt, and her songs are listenable if not good, but give me a non singing JJ over some rarefied sultry singer whose adult contemporary style imo is just as contrived as Janet's sex kitten bs.

lilgish said:

I agree.

The org should write an age appropriate song for Janet. Or at least brainstorm some topics.

Wait. "Brainstorm" - it would be about giving your man head during a rainstorm (look we already have a rhyming word).

The org should write an age appropriate song for Janet. Or at least brainstorm some topics.

Wait. "Brainstorm" - it would be about giving your man head during a rainstorm (look we already have a rhyming word).

lilgish said:

I agree.

The org should write an age appropriate song for Janet. Or at least brainstorm some topics.

Wait. "Brainstorm" - it would be about giving your man head during a rainstorm (look we already have a rhyming word).

Cinnie said:

I'm not a big enuff Janet fan to really know about her subject matter. It seems that her most pivotal works have had an either individual or universal message of empowerment. To me it's all about Does Janet have anything to say?

Cinnie said:

"Brainstorming
Want to get you in my skirt
So you wanna get head from me
You're just as cute as J. Dupri"

I'm not a big enuff Janet fan to really know about her subject matter. It seems that her most pivotal works have had an either individual or universal message of empowerment. To me it's all about Does Janet have anything to say?

How did Prince get into this discussion? hes a fucking musician, im so sick of seeing Prince compared to people that he HAS NOTHING IN COMMON WITH. People there is a huge difference between PRINCE and michael and janet and madonna. There are NOT musicians he is, he is on another path that they arent, their doing their thing and hes doing his NO FUCKING COMPARISONS. Im sick to death of this tired ass argument about whos better whos this whos that who sells who cancels more shows, its just fucking tired bullshit already.

Heres simple solutions for all this bitching. These artists are OLD now, not their sound, just their age. This is the AGE-NERATION, Janet is 40+ and shes marketing to 18 year olds, NOT GOING TO WORK plain and simple, and dont say "well mariah does it" Mariahs new album bombed, she sold less overseas than she EVER HAS, which means its all caught up with her, shes nearing 40 and needs to accept it. Madonna sells to her base worldwide for the most part, she aint getting no 16 year olds bumping her tracks, the people that bought her new record are the ones that have always bought them.

I still dont really understand why people give a shit how a record does, who the fuck cares really, did U enjoy it? then thats what matters. I mean who cares where the shit lands, i mean this industry is about a year or so from collapsing and then billboard magazine will be something to wipe your ass with.

VinnyM27 said:

You can't forget Moist. I actually liked the melody and music but the lyrics... must we know everything???

lilgish said:

You're actually on to something here. I think I fell in love with her themes of self-esteem and empowerment.

"Not gonna letcha use me"
"I'll call my own shots, thank you"
"I never ask for more than I deserve"
"I'm not a prude, I just want some respect"
"I didn't really know not to let all my feelings show, to save some for later so our love can be greater"
"Baby you can't hold me down! baby you can't hold me dowwwwn"
"Information keeps us strong", I mean there's so many from the RN1814 album.
"African American woman - I stand, tall, with, pride"
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JackieBlue said:

"Moist" has a good groove to it at least.

Cinnie said:

I was just listening to "janet." and played "New Agenda"....what a song. I mean, I'm shocked she has nothing to say about the Bush administration after writing something like RN1814.

VinnyM27 said:

I always felt like some of her socially conscious songs were somewhat inspired by others (I won’t say who) so I’m not surprised that there hasn’t been more material in that vein.

JackieBlue said:

This shit again? I can't imagine he is the only one that can write social conscious music. Just seems like Janet does not want to do that. Janet didn't write a lick on "Discipline", after all.

Cinnie said:

I was just listening to "janet." and played "New Agenda"....what a song. I mean, I'm shocked she has nothing to say about the Bush administration after writing something like RN1814.