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Reply #60 posted 10/14/08 12:31pm

sextonseven

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MuthaFunka said:

- El had no personality, and light-skinned dudes were fading out by then (lol)
- Raphael is in a genre that doesn't get much play/noteriety
- Aaron Hall's fire was stolen by copycat-voice R. Kelly


I think Aaron Hall in turn got his vocal style from Charlie Wilson.

Charlie Wilson > Aaron Hall > R. Kelly > Montell Jordan barf
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Reply #61 posted 10/14/08 12:47pm

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MuthaFunka said:

- El had no personality, and light-skinned dudes were fading out by then (lol)
- Raphael is in a genre that doesn't get much play/noteriety
- Aaron Hall's fire was stolen by copycat-voice R. Kelly


So so true...LOL


I may be wrong.... but It seams more often than not... but I do beleive that the rate of success after belonging to a successful group is not that great. They may do OK... but seldom as good as the group did. The shame is that their leaving almost always destroys the group. They sometimes try to get it back later... but once thatboat has sailed... its hard to catch another.
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Reply #62 posted 10/14/08 1:04pm

Graycap23

Diana Ross,Michael Jackson and Tina Turner are about the only 3 people 2 go solo and have a bigger career aren't they? Who else would fall into that category?
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Reply #63 posted 10/14/08 1:06pm

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Graycap23 said:

Diana Ross,Michael Jackson and Tina Turner are about the only 3 people 2 go solo and have a bigger career aren't they? Who else would fall into that category?


Justin Timberlake, Phil Collins, Rod Stewart, George Michael to name a few.
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Reply #64 posted 10/14/08 1:07pm

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Graycap23 said:

Diana Ross,Michael Jackson and Tina Turner are about the only 3 people 2 go solo and have a bigger career aren't they? Who else would fall into that category?


Prince.
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Reply #65 posted 10/14/08 1:07pm

sextonseven

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BigDaddyHQ said:

MuthaFunka said:

- El had no personality, and light-skinned dudes were fading out by then (lol)
- Raphael is in a genre that doesn't get much play/noteriety
- Aaron Hall's fire was stolen by copycat-voice R. Kelly


So so true...LOL


I may be wrong.... but It seams more often than not... but I do beleive that the rate of success after belonging to a successful group is not that great. They may do OK... but seldom as good as the group did. The shame is that their leaving almost always destroys the group. They sometimes try to get it back later... but once thatboat has sailed... its hard to catch another.


It's very rare that a lead singer leaves a group and both the singer and the group have more success afterward. The only example I can think of right now is Peter Gabriel and Genesis.
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Reply #66 posted 10/14/08 1:08pm

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speeddemon said:

Graycap23 said:

Diana Ross,Michael Jackson and Tina Turner are about the only 3 people 2 go solo and have a bigger career aren't they? Who else would fall into that category?


Justin Timberlake, Phil Collins, Rod Stewart, George Michael to name a few.


Lionel Richie
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Reply #67 posted 10/14/08 1:57pm

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jeffrey osbourne, micheal mcdonald, rod stewart
[Edited 10/14/08 13:57pm]
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Reply #68 posted 10/14/08 2:00pm

Graycap23

filmnoirdame said:

jeffrey osbourne, micheal mcdonald, rod stewart
[Edited 10/14/08 13:57pm]

My memory is shot.....
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Reply #69 posted 10/14/08 2:09pm

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Bobby Brown, Babyface, and Lauryn Hill also come to mind.

Ice Cube and Dr. Dre could make a case.
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Reply #70 posted 10/14/08 2:11pm

Graycap23

AlexdeParis said:

Bobby Brown, Babyface, and Lauryn Hill also come to mind.

Ice Cube and Dr. Dre could make a case.

I guess I should have qualified the statement. If u were in a group for less than 3 albums, I don't really consider that going solo.
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Reply #71 posted 10/14/08 2:16pm

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sextonseven said:

It's very rare that a lead singer leaves a group and both the singer and the group have more success afterward. The only example I can think of right now is Peter Gabriel and Genesis.

Bobby Brown and New Edition might have an argument.

Oh, we can add Missy Elliott, Robbie Williams, and Bobby Valentino (or whatever his name is) to the earlier list.
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Reply #72 posted 10/14/08 2:20pm

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Graycap23 said:

AlexdeParis said:

Bobby Brown, Babyface, and Lauryn Hill also come to mind.

Ice Cube and Dr. Dre could make a case.

I guess I should have qualified the statement. If u were in a group for less than 3 albums, I don't really consider that going solo.

That would eliminate Lauryn and Cube, who both left after their group's second album.
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Reply #73 posted 10/14/08 2:25pm

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AlexdeParis said:

sextonseven said:

It's very rare that a lead singer leaves a group and both the singer and the group have more success afterward. The only example I can think of right now is Peter Gabriel and Genesis.

Bobby Brown and New Edition might have an argument.


Bobby left after the second New Edition album, right? I'd say that NE were just as popular before and after he left. Bobby was definitely huge solo though.
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Reply #74 posted 10/14/08 2:27pm

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sextonseven said:

AlexdeParis said:


Bobby Brown and New Edition might have an argument.


Bobby left after the second New Edition album, right? I'd say that NE were just as popular before and after he left. Bobby was definitely huge solo though.

Technically, it was the 3rd album. He left right before All For Love was about to drop.
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Reply #75 posted 10/14/08 2:32pm

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daPrettyman said:

sextonseven said:



Bobby left after the second New Edition album, right? I'd say that NE were just as popular before and after he left. Bobby was definitely huge solo though.

Technically, it was the 3rd album. He left right before All For Love was about to drop.

I think he left right after it dropped. Regardless, he's on the album (but not in the videos).
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Reply #76 posted 10/14/08 2:38pm

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sextonseven said:

AlexdeParis said:


Bobby Brown and New Edition might have an argument.


Bobby left after the second New Edition album, right? I'd say that NE were just as popular before and after he left. Bobby was definitely huge solo though.

Yeah, I thought they might have an argument, but after looking it up, they really don't. He was a member for 3 of their 4 biggest-selling albums (New Edition, All for Love, and Home Again) and they had a few more hit singles with him than they did without him.
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Reply #77 posted 10/14/08 3:17pm

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sextonseven said:

MuthaFunka said:

- El had no personality, and light-skinned dudes were fading out by then (lol)
- Raphael is in a genre that doesn't get much play/noteriety
- Aaron Hall's fire was stolen by copycat-voice R. Kelly


I think Aaron Hall in turn got his vocal style from Charlie Wilson.

Charlie Wilson > Aaron Hall > R. Kelly > Montell Jordan barf


Naw, there's no "I think" - HE DID! lol
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Reply #78 posted 10/14/08 3:17pm

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BigDaddyHQ said:

MuthaFunka said:

- El had no personality, and light-skinned dudes were fading out by then (lol)
- Raphael is in a genre that doesn't get much play/noteriety
- Aaron Hall's fire was stolen by copycat-voice R. Kelly


So so true...LOL


I may be wrong.... but It seams more often than not... but I do beleive that the rate of success after belonging to a successful group is not that great. They may do OK... but seldom as good as the group did. The shame is that their leaving almost always destroys the group. They sometimes try to get it back later... but once thatboat has sailed... its hard to catch another.


Very true.
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Reply #79 posted 10/14/08 3:18pm

MuthaFunka

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Graycap23 said:

filmnoirdame said:

jeffrey osbourne, micheal mcdonald, rod stewart
[Edited 10/14/08 13:57pm]

My memory is shot.....


lol I was reading all the responses after your initial one and was thinkin' "Damn, there WERE a bunch of artists that blew up after they left their group". lol
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Reply #80 posted 10/14/08 3:21pm

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SoulAlive said:

Same with Howard.With a few exceptions,much of his solo music is bland and boring.Imagine where his career might have went if he had been placed in the studio with LA and Babyface in 1989 or 1990.He might have gotten that big blockbuster album that he needed.


Actually, Howard Hewett did go into the studio with LA and Babyface in '87-'88. Unfortunately, none of the material they recorded was ever released. According to a friend of mine who was part of the LaFace camp during that time period, Howard did an incredible version of "Rock Witcha" (the song ultimately ended up on Bobby Brown's Don't Be Cruel album).
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Reply #81 posted 10/14/08 3:22pm

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Which reminds me - Babyface was another who became bigger than his group.

THE "Oh, ADP mentioned Face already" EDIT.
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Reply #82 posted 10/14/08 3:28pm

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MuthaFunka said:

sextonseven said:



I think Aaron Hall in turn got his vocal style from Charlie Wilson.

Charlie Wilson > Aaron Hall > R. Kelly > Montell Jordan barf


Naw, there's no "I think" - HE DID! lol



yup nod


but they all owe Stevie homage tho' biggrin
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Reply #83 posted 10/14/08 3:49pm

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funkpill said:

MuthaFunka said:



Naw, there's no "I think" - HE DID! lol



yup nod


but they all owe Stevie homage tho' biggrin


Shit, HALF the music industry does lol.
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Reply #84 posted 10/14/08 3:58pm

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AlexdeParis said:

DirtyChris said:


you haven't heard this?

I have "Be Here" because of D'Angelo, but I never really felt the urge to hear the rest. shrug

would you listen to the rest for me?
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Reply #85 posted 10/14/08 4:28pm

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AlexdeParis said:

sextonseven said:



Bobby left after the second New Edition album, right? I'd say that NE were just as popular before and after he left. Bobby was definitely huge solo though.

Yeah, I thought they might have an argument, but after looking it up, they really don't. He was a member for 3 of their 4 biggest-selling albums (New Edition, All for Love, and Home Again) and they had a few more hit singles with him than they did without him.


He was on Candy Girl, too! nod
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Reply #86 posted 10/14/08 4:36pm

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todd305 said:

SoulAlive said:

Same with Howard.With a few exceptions,much of his solo music is bland and boring.Imagine where his career might have went if he had been placed in the studio with LA and Babyface in 1989 or 1990.He might have gotten that big blockbuster album that he needed.


Actually, Howard Hewett did go into the studio with LA and Babyface in '87-'88. Unfortunately, none of the material they recorded was ever released. According to a friend of mine who was part of the LaFace camp during that time period, Howard did an incredible version of "Rock Witcha" (the song ultimately ended up on Bobby Brown's Don't Be Cruel album).


Wow,I bet Howard was pissed about that lol That would have been the biggest album of his career.
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Reply #87 posted 10/14/08 4:50pm

AlexdeParis

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DirtyChris said:

AlexdeParis said:


I have "Be Here" because of D'Angelo, but I never really felt the urge to hear the rest. shrug

would you listen to the rest for me?

lol We'll see. It'll probably be a while before I get around to it.
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Reply #88 posted 10/14/08 4:55pm

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dannyd5050 said:

AlexdeParis said:


Yeah, I thought they might have an argument, but after looking it up, they really don't. He was a member for 3 of their 4 biggest-selling albums (New Edition, All for Love, and Home Again) and they had a few more hit singles with him than they did without him.


He was on Candy Girl, too! nod

I know, but even Under the Blue Moon was more successful than that album. He wasn't a part of their 3rd-biggest album, Heart Break, but he was on the other 3 multi-platinum albums they released.
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Reply #89 posted 10/14/08 5:53pm

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Graycap23 said:

Diana Ross,Michael Jackson and Tina Turner are about the only 3 people 2 go solo and have a bigger career aren't they? Who else would fall into that category?


Beyonce comes to mind.
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