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Printableestelle81 said: MikeMatronik said: well jay-z sampled him... Dr. Dre sampled him... Prince sampled prince...with the crystal ball sample on Violet the organ grinder... Cam'ron sampled the hell out of "Diamonds and Pearls" Maybe Prince really likes Cam'ron too.  btw, my man did a whole mixtapes of mashups 
really interesting 2 of my favorite artists mashed up... it was an eargasm I need to pull that out because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." | |
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TotalAlisa said: WaterInYourBath said: Yep. For example, I would rather hear the Pussy Cat Dolls do this song. They can't sing either, but at least they perform well live. Although disappointing, I'm not surprised Stargate gave this track to Rihanna. Now I bet she'll be in a video with a short blow-out, long black coat, thigh-high stockings, ankle boots, all the while pretending to play a guitar in HD slow motion cinematography. (  First MJ, now Prince, LOL. )
And I know what U mean about the arrogance. The part that's funny about that is when "artists" like this are conceited but insist on pretending to be modest and humble, LOL.  the PCDs aren't any better and all there performances are redundant and look like work out videos or recycled britney spears moves. The PCDs have NOTHING special about them. They can't compare to spice girls. anyways I don't like prince but i will say that he had a right to be arrogant. He produced and wrote his songs and performed them with instruments. RIHANNA does nothing but show her cooch, wear skimmpy clothes, look cute, and sing however they tell her too and sing what songs is given to her Interesting. I honestly have only seen them perform a few times on TV; once on Ellen last week, which was an OK performance, considering they danced very exhausting choreography, LOL. And although I am definitely not a fan of Rihanna, your comments about her above also describe several other pop stars, including Britney Spears. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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The subject mattter is immoral and against Torah, but that there is more wrong from a "Prince-inpsired" perspective.
The Linn Beat = stiff, safe, and not funky. The Bass key = stiff, not funky..Sounds like one of those "Beverly Hills Cop Soundtrack" songs. (C'Mon people. Mr Nelson has a bit more juice than a few funky chords) Lyrics dumb. The music isn't crafted around her vocals--which is needed because she is not a strong singer. Conclusion: There is a reason that this song was leaked. [Edited 10/13/08 17:40pm] [Edited 10/16/08 6:38am] [Edited 10/16/08 16:01pm] | |
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Linn4days said: The subject amter is immoral, but that there is more worng from a "Prince-inpsired" perspective.
The Linn Beat = stiff, safe, and not funky. The Bass key = stiff, not funky..Sounds liek one of those Beverly Hills Cop Soundtrack songs. (C'Mon people. Mr Nelson has a bit more juice than a few funky chords) Lyrics dumb. The music isn't crafted around her vocals--whcih is needed because she is not a strong singer. Conclusion: There is a reason that this song was leaked. YES! I could not put my finger on what this track reminded me of until now! I agree with your breakdown. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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Linn4days said: The subject amter is immoral, but that there is more wrong from a "Prince-inpsired" perspective.
The Linn Beat = stiff, safe, and not funky. The Bass key = stiff, not funky..Sounds like one of those "Beverly Hills Cop Soundtrack" songs. (C'Mon people. Mr Nelson has a bit more juice than a few funky chords) Lyrics dumb. The music isn't crafted around her vocals--which is needed because she is not a strong singer. Conclusion: There is a reason that this song was leaked. http://www.indabamusic.co.../639066385 http://www.myspace.com/goldcitymix [Edited 10/13/08 18:55pm] | |
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purplesweat said: It's weird he's apparently all about real music etc etc but he's okay with Rihanna sampling his stuff (aka taking credit amongst younger audiences for something he originally came up with).
I love Rihanna but I'm aware of how artificial she is. I'll never understand Prince  Samplers find a way... Loopholes...etc. I have linn samples.. Not Linn samples fro Prince songs...It has been sugggested here that thet is where most of these producers and rappers taking their Linn clips from actual Prince songs. My best set came from someone on Prince.org. http://media.putfile.com/..._Sample_16 http://media.putfile.com/...4days-Samp | |
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paisleypark4 said: Its because we love to dance and there arent any other artists doing upbeat dance music. You know, I'd be willing to bet real money that there are. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: paisleypark4 said: Its because we love to dance and there arent any other artists doing upbeat dance music. You know, I'd be willing to bet real money that there are. There is, but not the way they do it...or they are not in the public eye. hell i am one of them. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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paisleypark4 said: meow85 said: You know, I'd be willing to bet real money that there are. There is, but not the way they do it...or they are not in the public eye. hell i am one of them. There has to be more out there to dance to than what's being played at the gay clubs right now. Like I said, much of it is music that would embarass a 12 year old girl. I don't understand it. Gay clubs used to be the place to be to hear good dance music, even just a few years ago. But now? "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Linn4days said: purplesweat said: It's weird he's apparently all about real music etc etc but he's okay with Rihanna sampling his stuff (aka taking credit amongst younger audiences for something he originally came up with).
I love Rihanna but I'm aware of how artificial she is. I'll never understand Prince Samplers find a way... Loopholes...etc. I have linn samples.. Not Linn samples fro Prince songs...It has been sugggested here that thet is where most of these producers and rappers taking their Linn clips from actual Prince songs. My best set came from someone on Prince.org. http://media.putfile.com/..._Sample_16 http://media.putfile.com/...4days-Samp This song is not sampled. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: Linn4days said: Samplers find a way... Loopholes...etc. I have linn samples.. Not Linn samples fro Prince songs...It has been sugggested here that thet is where most of these producers and rappers taking their Linn clips from actual Prince songs. My best set came from someone on Prince.org. http://media.putfile.com/..._Sample_16 http://media.putfile.com/...4days-Samp This song is not sampled.  I'm not mad at you, I'm mad at the dirt. | |
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rushing07 said: BlaqueKnight said: This song is not sampled. Are you saying that it IS sampled? If so, please point out the parts and name specifically what is sampled. Its certainly not a sample of Prince's Controversy. It borrows the "vibe" of Controversy heavily without actually using the notes. | |
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The Time are the background musicians on this, maybe? | |
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Seems unlikely to me judging by the sound. Just sounds way too quantized. I dig the song cause even a Prince rip-off sounds better than half of the music out. But the difference with a "Controversy" is that that song has funk, this song lacks funk. | |
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I think the real difference between this and the Prince songs it's copying, is more in the songwriting than the groove. Ripping off a Linn drum and some synth lines is child's play. Anyone can do it. Literally anyone. Actually writing a decent song is another thing all together. Of course, Rihanna's irritating voice doesn't help matters.
I like the groove here, simply for nostalgic reasons, but they should've hired a better songwriter to put something worthwhile on top of it. [Edited 10/15/08 9:14am] “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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BlaqueKnight said: rushing07 said: Are you saying that it IS sampled? If so, please point out the parts and name specifically what is sampled. Its certainly not a sample of Prince's Controversy. It borrows the "vibe" of Controversy heavily without actually using the notes. No no, I agree with you. No samples. It does sound like a bad karaoke version I'm not mad at you, I'm mad at the dirt. | |
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rushing07 said: It does sound like a bad karaoke version 
Can't argue that. | |
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omg she really did rip off controversy!!! It sounds too overproduced though
I hope prince sues | |
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BlaqueKnight said: Linn4days said: Samplers find a way... Loopholes...etc. I have linn samples.. Not Linn samples fro Prince songs...It has been sugggested here that thet is where most of these producers and rappers taking their Linn clips from actual Prince songs. My best set came from someone on Prince.org. http://media.putfile.com/..._Sample_16 http://media.putfile.com/...4days-Samp This song is not sampled. Eh.. It's OK-sounding, but I doubt that it moves folks a whole lot without one of her crazy videos.. | |
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NMusiqNSoul said: Seems unlikely to me judging by the sound. Just sounds way too quantized. I dig the song cause even a Prince rip-off sounds better than half of the music out. But the difference with a "Controversy" is that that song has funk, this song lacks funk.
*Ding* We have a winner! You said it better than I.. Without funk "Prince-sounding" Hip-pop = flat sounding with overly hard synth chords, and a Linn Beat [Edited 10/16/08 6:41am] | |
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DirtyChris said: estelle81 said: Cam'ron sampled the hell out of "Diamonds and Pearls" Maybe Prince really likes Cam'ron too. btw, my man did a whole mixtapes of mashups
really interesting 2 of my favorite artists mashed up... it was an eargasm I need to pull that out Mixtapes are often "Street boots" without clearances. A couple of radio personality DJs in Atlanta were arrested for making underground mixtape CDs, and selling them online. They claimed pblically that mixtapes by DJs and rappers are legal. They never were legal. There just was not a crackdown on them until now. I am not saying that Prince did not give permission for this CD, but... [Edited 10/16/08 6:37am] [Edited 10/16/08 6:39am] | |
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Wow, you have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to hear the Prince influence on that track. Im interested in hearing the rest of the song before I say that it's good or bad but so far, it's interesting. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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This is almost identical to Controversy. They just changed a note here and there to make a "new" song. But I like it. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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BlaqueKnight said: This song is not sampled. - True. It was copied. The guy took controversy and changed some parts, but the intention is the same. Like he was saying ´let´s do Controversy my way´. I dont know if he can be sued for this, because it´s not a plagiarism technically. |
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PurpleCharm said: I wonder how long it will be before someone comes into this thread and says the the song sounds nothing like anything Prince has ever recorded...that Prince wasn't the only artist to use the Linn Drums and that everyone is this thread is a Purple Koolaid Drinker.
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