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Reply #30 posted 10/09/08 3:22pm

SynthiaRose

BlaqueKnight said:

KidaDynamite said:


That means what?



It means be more creative with song concepts.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...FRuUJR4LPI


The only one who seems to have made a clever and thoughtful song from this concept was Prince. "If I Was Your Girlfriend" is miles ahead of this childish mess and even Ciara's "Like A Boy". Most of the songs Beyoncé comes up with seem to end up being male diss songs. When is this silly bobblehead going to grow up and stop whining about man problems that she's not even having?
Now if a man wrote a songs called "If I Were A Girl" where he talked about teasing men and taking their money, every feminazi "activist" group would be boycotting radio stations across the country demanding the song be removed.
Neither Ciara nor Beyoncé have any clue as to what they would do if they were boys because they aren't. What Bey needs to do is start singing songs for WOMEN in her age range and stop singing shit like she's still 16, with her immature lyric ass.


I totally agree with everything in this post.
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Reply #31 posted 10/09/08 4:52pm

Cinnie

Ciara is gonna be so heated when Beyonce's song is way more popular than "Like A Boy" was.
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Reply #32 posted 10/09/08 5:15pm

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Well I do like that she's attempting to get away from her usual sound and try something a little different, but the song is pretty bland overall and forgettable to me. It's filler material...next track!
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Reply #33 posted 10/09/08 5:18pm

Cinnie

whistle an' pee standin' uuuup

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Reply #34 posted 10/09/08 5:28pm

TotalAlisa

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Graycap23 said:

It took 5 minutes 2 write this SH*T.

lol lol lol lol SO TRUE. this song STINKS BIG TIME. worst that dog doo.

ITS SO GENERIC. and sounds like a rejected rihanna song.

and she is over singing the song. i also listend to beyonce new single called :single ladies and it sounded like a rejected GetMeBodie
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Reply #35 posted 10/09/08 5:30pm

TotalAlisa

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KidaDynamite said:

PurpleCharm said:


Bugaboo
Irreplaceable
Bills, Bills, Bills


Disqualified!

Irreplaceable- she was talking about a dude cheating on her
Bills Bills Bills- they we're talking about fools spending up their money and shit.

How is that dogging dudes?!

only dissing guys who fit the qualifications lol
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Reply #36 posted 10/09/08 5:31pm

Cinnie

Don't tell me this song was one of the ten best out of the 70 she recorded.

I could have freestyled that shit.
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Reply #37 posted 10/09/08 8:43pm

phunkdaddy

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NaughtyKitty said:

banks said:




Yeah... I don't know what this is all about but she can have this shit

lol Well compared to songs like Ring the Alarm and Check on It, this song is much better. But I'm sure we'll be hearing this song alot like her song Irreplaceable. You know they're gonna shove it down our throats and try to make it THE song of 2009. Gotta love that Payolla. mad



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Reply #38 posted 10/14/08 6:23am

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http://www.foxnews.com/st...,00.html#2
Beyonce’s ‘Stolen’ New Hit Record

Last week I raved and raved about Beyonce’s new single, "If I Were A Boy." Remember? I thought it was the best thing she’d ever done, and was amazed that she’d even found the material.

Well, guess what? The story behind "If I Were A Boy" is absolutely scandalous. It also explains my question of why this single missed the Grammy deadline of September 30th, since it was ready to go at least 3 weeks ago. The answer: it was held up by endless legal wrangling since, in the long hallowed tradition of the music business, the young woman who wrote the melody and lyrics for "If I Were A Boy" had no idea Beyonce had even recorded her song until a stranger called with the news. By then, it was too late.

BC Jean is a hot, up-and-coming 21 year old female singer songwriter from San Diego. Those who’ve met her says she’s smart and "gorgeous." But BC (her initials, legend has it, are for "beautiful child") got a cold dose of reality this summer when it comes to the record business. According to sources, she and her manager/mother have been strong-armed by Beyonce’s people and others who saw gold in "If I Were A Boy" and didn’t care how they got it.

You can hear BC Jean’s version of her own song, written with German pop-factory producer Toby Gad, at www.bcjean.net. It’s certainly as good as Beyonce’s if not better. It’s no wonder that this young woman is now the center of so much attention.

Altogether, I am told, BC Jean wrote and recorded about a dozen songs with producer Gad for an album the producer was planning to make of his own. When the deal fell apart, Gad — whose 300 plus credits are all co-written, never solo — took the songs and started marketing them to big name, established artists. Gad’s past "collaborators" include Fergie, on "Big Girls Don’t Cry."

Besides Beyonce, Gad brought at least one of the songs to Disney for "Hannah Montana" star Miley Cyrus. But Disney wanted the lyrics changed to be age appropriate. BC Jean refused. For now, Miley and Gad have been rebuffed.

When I wrote about Beyonce’s version of "If I Were a Boy" last week, calls came pouring in from people who knew the real history of this story. BC Jean’s mother/manager, Lori Carlson, told me she couldn’t comment on the situation. But plenty of people knew the saga of Beyonce’s legendary manager/father Mathew Knowles’s aggressive pursuit of the publishing rights to the potential hit record. His goal was to get the rights to the song and to put Beyonce’s name on the writing credits.

The Carlsons, I’m told, recently came to terms with Beyonce, after enduring the kind of record biz terrors that would curl the hair of the guys from "Hit Men." Now "If I Were A Boy" is hitting big time. Part of the deal, my sources insist, is that the two singers will duet on BC Jean’s debut album once she gets her own recording deal. Right now, managers, publishers, and A&R people from all over the industry are falling over themselves trying to sign BC Jean. They should be. She seems to be the real deal, a potential artist with a big career looming in front of her. It’s a shame that this is the way she had to find out about the record business.

BC Jean’s story is an old one that dates back to Elvis Presley and continues ‘til today. The larger issue, of course, is that performers who don’t write their own music get no royalty when their records are played on the radio. That’s why a Performance Royalty Act is being pushed in Congress right now, and why songwriters should back it. Artists wouldn’t be looking to muscle in on their business if they were paid appropriately. Beyonce simply falls into a category that also includes Frank Sinatra and Tony Bennett as well as Sam Moore and Judy Collins, each of whom testified in front of Congress about this last year.

And by the way: BC Jean’s story is pretty common. I’d love to hear from all the other songwriters out there who’ve been ripped off just in the last year. The back stories of how records get made, how big stars who don’t write their own music wind up with hit material, are always hell raisers.

hmmm
Ya know I was suspicious of how much of this song she actually wrote too.
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Reply #39 posted 10/14/08 6:26am

Cinnie

The chord progression actually sounds like "A New Day Has Come" by Celine Dion (I don't know if that's the actual title but I hear it all the time on the Lite station at work).
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Reply #40 posted 10/14/08 6:31am

midnightmover

TotalAlisa said:

Graycap23 said:

It took 5 minutes 2 write this SH*T.

lol lol lol lol SO TRUE. this song STINKS BIG TIME. worst that dog doo.

ITS SO GENERIC. and sounds like a rejected rihanna song.

and she is over singing the song. i also listend to beyonce new single called :single ladies and it sounded like a rejected GetMeBodie

nod She oversings EVERYTHING! It's the hallmark of all fakes who have a lot of lungpower, but no soul! See Alicia Keys for another example.
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Reply #41 posted 10/14/08 6:46am

Linn4days

PurpleCharm said:

KidaDynamite said:



Yeah Beyonce....riiiight! lurking


So, name 3 songs where she's dogging dudes.

Bugaboo
Irreplaceable
Bills, Bills, Bills


Brother, it's all because teenaged girls (black, white or otherwise) are more likely to buy CDs, and download tracks than males of any age. Teen girls, and women usually wine about the men that they are with..lololol. It is a given.

If she told them to blame themselves, she and every other female singer would be out of business with the quickness.

Men know "tech". Tech means burning. Burning can = bootlegs.

It is all marketing a vision that sells (to who will buy).


Now, the real problem are videos. They were a boost when they began. Now, why would a male buy the CD when he can see her dance nearly naked in a video on Youtube whenever he feels like it?

The industry will never stop online videos.

They should've stopped making any videos about 5 years ago.

MTV, nor any other V-network is not showing them as much. Even on the premium channels. Videos are killing the market (as it should be because of what they are selling to the youth).
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Reply #42 posted 10/14/08 6:55am

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Cinnie said:

The chord progression actually sounds like "A New Day Has Come" by Celine Dion (I don't know if that's the actual title but I hear it all the time on the Lite station at work).


and also Joan Osbourne's One of Us
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Reply #43 posted 10/14/08 7:01am

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midnightmover said:

TotalAlisa said:


lol lol lol lol SO TRUE. this song STINKS BIG TIME. worst that dog doo.

ITS SO GENERIC. and sounds like a rejected rihanna song.

and she is over singing the song. i also listend to beyonce new single called :single ladies and it sounded like a rejected GetMeBodie

nod She oversings EVERYTHING! It's the hallmark of all fakes who have a lot of lungpower, but no soul! See Alicia Keys for another example.


That was my first complaint about it in the other thread, well that she sang too loud too soon. I don’t understand why this couldn’t be a soft vocal performance with just an acoustic guitar. Why must she always sing like she’s performing for the hard of hearing? Doesn’t she know that gentle vocals can be just as moving if not more than all that shouting, riffing and growling.
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Reply #44 posted 10/14/08 7:08am

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JackieBlue said:


That was my first complaint about it in the other thread, well that she sang too loud too soon. I don’t understand why this couldn’t be a soft vocal performance with just an acoustic guitar. Why must she always sing like she’s performing for the hard of hearing? Doesn’t she know that gentle vocals can be just as moving if not more than all that shouting, riffing and growling.


so true. aguilera is guilty of the same thing too. nod
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Reply #45 posted 10/14/08 7:17am

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JackieBlue said:

midnightmover said:


nod She oversings EVERYTHING! It's the hallmark of all fakes who have a lot of lungpower, but no soul! See Alicia Keys for another example.


That was my first complaint about it in the other thread, well that she sang too loud too soon. I don’t understand why this couldn’t be a soft vocal performance with just an acoustic guitar. Why must she always sing like she’s performing for the hard of hearing? Doesn’t she know that gentle vocals can be just as moving if not more than all that shouting, riffing and growling.

People should check out the original songwriter's version of this song, BC Jean. She does a very good job with it, doesnt oversing it at all, and I think sings it better than Beyonce becuz she shows some real emotion and soul in it. No screaming, just singing. She really does justice to this song but I guess that's becuz she's the one who wrote the song in the first place lol
http://www.bcjean.net./
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Reply #46 posted 10/14/08 7:21am

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I just did and she does do a better job with her song than Bey, well hopefully because Bey jacked her song it will open doors for her
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Reply #47 posted 10/14/08 7:41am

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Okay, her version is louder than I expected but I like it. I like the coarseness to her voice.

So now BC gets to duet with Beyonce as some sort of compensation? It’s nice to have a notable name on your debut but I wouldn’t want to duet with Bey.
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Reply #48 posted 10/14/08 7:48am

midnightmover

PricelessHo said:

JackieBlue said:


That was my first complaint about it in the other thread, well that she sang too loud too soon. I don’t understand why this couldn’t be a soft vocal performance with just an acoustic guitar. Why must she always sing like she’s performing for the hard of hearing? Doesn’t she know that gentle vocals can be just as moving if not more than all that shouting, riffing and growling.


so true. aguilera is guilty of the same thing too. nod

nod Aguilera is probably the worst offender.
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Reply #49 posted 10/14/08 11:23am

SynthiaRose

OK. I'm a hypocrite.

I lurve this song. confused

I don't have any defense.

And in fact, it makes me want to cry when she really powers the vocals. mad

And so now, I'm going to listen to it over and over while on the treadmill. razz

Somebody help me!


P.S. Single Ladies is still shit though.
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Reply #50 posted 10/14/08 11:38am

NMusiqNSoul

I'm not shocked about that song being stolen. It happens constantly in the music business everywhere. I have my shit copyrighted but even then. I'm sure this lady's songs were copyrighted too and it still went this far. All I can say is to her mother, good going! Beyonce...Actually in particular Matthew "daddy" Knowles is notorious for bringing songs to Beyonce. it happen in the DC days also. "Survivor" was another song that was stolen. Also he always made sure she got royalties and writing credits....A shady.business.
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Reply #51 posted 10/14/08 1:26pm

TotalAlisa

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JackieBlue said:

midnightmover said:


nod She oversings EVERYTHING! It's the hallmark of all fakes who have a lot of lungpower, but no soul! See Alicia Keys for another example.


That was my first complaint about it in the other thread, well that she sang too loud too soon. I don’t understand why this couldn’t be a soft vocal performance with just an acoustic guitar. Why must she always sing like she’s performing for the hard of hearing? Doesn’t she know that gentle vocals can be just as moving if not more than all that shouting, riffing and growling.

there is NOT any real singers out here today.

and all those songs with the acoustic guitar all sound the same. THEY ALLLLL SOUND THE SAME.

i hate the acoustic guitar because when people just use that one instrument in their entire song, their is No kind of melody that you can remember.
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Reply #52 posted 10/14/08 4:59pm

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PricelessHo said:

JackieBlue said:


That was my first complaint about it in the other thread, well that she sang too loud too soon. I don’t understand why this couldn’t be a soft vocal performance with just an acoustic guitar. Why must she always sing like she’s performing for the hard of hearing? Doesn’t she know that gentle vocals can be just as moving if not more than all that shouting, riffing and growling.


so true. aguilera is guilty of the same thing too. nod


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Reply #53 posted 10/14/08 5:54pm

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NaughtyKitty said:

JackieBlue said:



That was my first complaint about it in the other thread, well that she sang too loud too soon. I don’t understand why this couldn’t be a soft vocal performance with just an acoustic guitar. Why must she always sing like she’s performing for the hard of hearing? Doesn’t she know that gentle vocals can be just as moving if not more than all that shouting, riffing and growling.

People should check out the original songwriter's version of this song, BC Jean. She does a very good job with it, doesnt oversing it at all, and I think sings it better than Beyonce becuz she shows some real emotion and soul in it. No screaming, just singing. She really does justice to this song but I guess that's becuz she's the one who wrote the song in the first place lol
http://www.bcjean.net./



Just as i was given beyonce credit for coming up with a decent song, it's not
even hers. It's a darn shame. Yes i think this girl took beyonce to school on this song to add injury to insult. This situation probably isn't beyonce's fault but probably more to do with beyonce's arrogant and shady father. When i had been reading about amerie material being stolen, i was given beyonce the benefit of the doubt but this just give more credence to it. Well daddy knowles has just lost a little more respect.
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Reply #54 posted 10/14/08 6:17pm

SynthiaRose

Oh, I guess I skipped over the part where she stole the song.

Nevermind my earler praise. I will treadmill to BC's version instead.

I HATE THIEVES!
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Reply #55 posted 10/14/08 6:42pm

wonder505

BlaqueKnight said:

KidaDynamite said:


That means what?



It means be more creative with song concepts.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...FRuUJR4LPI


The only one who seems to have made a clever and thoughtful song from this concept was Prince. "If I Was Your Girlfriend" is miles ahead of this childish mess and even Ciara's "Like A Boy". Most of the songs Beyoncé comes up with seem to end up being male diss songs. When is this silly bobblehead going to grow up and stop whining about man problems that she's not even having?
Now if a man wrote a songs called "If I Were A Girl" where he talked about teasing men and taking their money, every feminazi "activist" group would be boycotting radio stations across the country demanding the song be removed.
Neither Ciara nor Beyoncé have any clue as to what they would do if they were boys because they aren't. What Bey needs to do is start singing songs for WOMEN in her age range and stop singing shit like she's still 16, with her immature lyric ass.


whoa eek did you just give Prince a.....compliment?

i think i need a moment. wink

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Reply #56 posted 10/14/08 8:35pm

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NaughtyKitty said:

http://www.foxnews.com/st...,00.html#2
Beyonce’s ‘Stolen’ New Hit Record

Last week I raved and raved about Beyonce’s new single, "If I Were A Boy." Remember? I thought it was the best thing she’d ever done, and was amazed that she’d even found the material.

Well, guess what? The story behind "If I Were A Boy" is absolutely scandalous. It also explains my question of why this single missed the Grammy deadline of September 30th, since it was ready to go at least 3 weeks ago. The answer: it was held up by endless legal wrangling since, in the long hallowed tradition of the music business, the young woman who wrote the melody and lyrics for "If I Were A Boy" had no idea Beyonce had even recorded her song until a stranger called with the news. By then, it was too late.

BC Jean is a hot, up-and-coming 21 year old female singer songwriter from San Diego. Those who’ve met her says she’s smart and "gorgeous." But BC (her initials, legend has it, are for "beautiful child") got a cold dose of reality this summer when it comes to the record business. According to sources, she and her manager/mother have been strong-armed by Beyonce’s people and others who saw gold in "If I Were A Boy" and didn’t care how they got it.

You can hear BC Jean’s version of her own song, written with German pop-factory producer Toby Gad, at www.bcjean.net. It’s certainly as good as Beyonce’s if not better. It’s no wonder that this young woman is now the center of so much attention.

Altogether, I am told, BC Jean wrote and recorded about a dozen songs with producer Gad for an album the producer was planning to make of his own. When the deal fell apart, Gad — whose 300 plus credits are all co-written, never solo — took the songs and started marketing them to big name, established artists. Gad’s past "collaborators" include Fergie, on "Big Girls Don’t Cry."

Besides Beyonce, Gad brought at least one of the songs to Disney for "Hannah Montana" star Miley Cyrus. But Disney wanted the lyrics changed to be age appropriate. BC Jean refused. For now, Miley and Gad have been rebuffed.

When I wrote about Beyonce’s version of "If I Were a Boy" last week, calls came pouring in from people who knew the real history of this story. BC Jean’s mother/manager, Lori Carlson, told me she couldn’t comment on the situation. But plenty of people knew the saga of Beyonce’s legendary manager/father Mathew Knowles’s aggressive pursuit of the publishing rights to the potential hit record. His goal was to get the rights to the song and to put Beyonce’s name on the writing credits.

The Carlsons, I’m told, recently came to terms with Beyonce, after enduring the kind of record biz terrors that would curl the hair of the guys from "Hit Men." Now "If I Were A Boy" is hitting big time. Part of the deal, my sources insist, is that the two singers will duet on BC Jean’s debut album once she gets her own recording deal. Right now, managers, publishers, and A&R people from all over the industry are falling over themselves trying to sign BC Jean. They should be. She seems to be the real deal, a potential artist with a big career looming in front of her. It’s a shame that this is the way she had to find out about the record business.

BC Jean’s story is an old one that dates back to Elvis Presley and continues ‘til today. The larger issue, of course, is that performers who don’t write their own music get no royalty when their records are played on the radio. That’s why a Performance Royalty Act is being pushed in Congress right now, and why songwriters should back it. Artists wouldn’t be looking to muscle in on their business if they were paid appropriately. Beyonce simply falls into a category that also includes Frank Sinatra and Tony Bennett as well as Sam Moore and Judy Collins, each of whom testified in front of Congress about this last year.

And by the way: BC Jean’s story is pretty common. I’d love to hear from all the other songwriters out there who’ve been ripped off just in the last year. The back stories of how records get made, how big stars who don’t write their own music wind up with hit material, are always hell raisers.

hmmm
Ya know I was suspicious of how much of this song she actually wrote too.

Funny how that url doesn't work anymore
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Reply #57 posted 10/14/08 9:26pm

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The original sounds nice too.

A bit childish voice but I guess its makes the song more appropriate
than for a woman of almost 30 years.
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Reply #58 posted 10/14/08 10:20pm

SynthiaRose

I don't understand how Mathew wanted Beyonce's name on the writing credits.

I guess that's like she "wrote" Irreplaceable. And still hasn't dueted with Neyo.

So, good luck with that duet B.C.


The Knowles are some evil people. I don't respect how they do business... but that's clear from how DC members have been treated.
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Reply #59 posted 10/14/08 10:25pm

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SynthiaRose said:

The Knowles are some evil people.




Thats what they remind me of.
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