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Printablemonk76 said: alphastreet said: lol mj was more successful commercially
as a package though, I would say prince is way more respected this decade, and with all those albums and tours, he deserves it! And this is coming from an mj fan who's jackson music collection contains over 200 items, so don't start with me. [Edited 10/7/08 13:49pm] More respected?? Maybe but Michael is more loved. He does give out wine and porn  I'm not mad at you, I'm mad at the dirt. | |
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Fact is Prince has much more bank in todays day and age.. OH and now that OJ is going to Jail (fianly) he'll be cleaning his cell awaiting MJ's next messup..they will be happy togeather [Edited 10/7/08 15:20pm] dont believe in politics of chosen fools and hypocrites | |
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monk76 said: So Michael sold nearly 7 million albums this decade while sleeping.
Can someone please give us the numbers for all prince albums sold this decade so far.I want to check if all the Prince promotion on TV,Magazin, Interviews, Tours etc. did something for his sells.Especially the musicology project was huge in terms of promotion he was everywhere!And don´t forget his fight against youtube. So if you combine all Prince albums this decade and he doesn´t come over 10 Million it is a hugh dissapointment.And if he even couldn´t sell 7 million I want never ever again hear on this forum Michael is a "has been". If Michael is a has been with 7 million while sleeping what is prince?? Not living?? So where are Prince numbers?? [Edited 10/7/08 12:23pm] well..i would say between 6 to 8 million...not too shabby..how many albums of new material has MJ put out..not including the piece of shit invincible that was suppose to put him back on top..which it didnt...without thriller MJ would be nothing...period!! how many days has Prince spent in court for fondling children?? NONE!!! Or avoiding his creditors...NONE!! or dicking over his staff because he cant afford them...NONE!!!, or fleeing the US because the general american public thinks he is a child molesting MFer, washed up has been...  | |
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If you only care about album sales, then MJ will probably always sell more than Prince.
But as far as music, MJ just doesn't have that much out there. How many solo tracks has he released? 80-90? For roughly 3 decades as a solo artist, that doesn't seem like much. |
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monk76 said: So Michael sold nearly 7 million albums this decade while sleeping.
Can someone please give us the numbers for all prince albums sold this decade so far.I want to check if all the Prince promotion on TV,Magazin, Interviews, Tours etc. did something for his sells.Especially the musicology project was huge in terms of promotion he was everywhere!And don´t forget his fight against youtube. So if you combine all Prince albums this decade and he doesn´t come over 10 Million it is a hugh dissapointment.And if he even couldn´t sell 7 million I want never ever again hear on this forum Michael is a "has been". If Michael is a has been with 7 million while sleeping what is prince?? Not living?? So where are Prince numbers?? [Edited 10/7/08 12:23pm] i HAVE TO AGREE |
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Could MJ fans please put a hold on all their lame old MJ/Prince comparisons until MJ releases some new music?
No one doubts that MJ has sold more music than Prince, but in the last few years Prince has toured sold-out arenas, small clubs, released music, performed at the Superbowl, gave the 2004 Grammys a much need rating boost, held week long Celebrations at his recording studio, basically keeping busy in a positive way. Hell, even with the threatened lawsuits, we got a funky new song.
In the last few years MJ has been aquitted of child molestation, lip-synched at a couple of award shows, promised a fund-raising song for Katrina victims, and shown up at various locations in the worst diguises ever. Until MJ decides to release some new music or perform some LIVE shows, I really wish MJ fans would stop taking out their anger on Prince and Prince fans. We are not the reason MJ is making you wait a million years for new music or performances. | |
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Timmy84 said: Moonbeam said: OK, I'll bite.
These figures are approximations, so I can't ascertain their veracity, but let's see. The answer to this question depends on what you count as sales. The Musicology concert giveaways? The Planet Earth newspaper giveaways? Whether we include those figures or not will have a big impact on the answer. One source I have is called www.worldwidealbums.net, and it approximates worldwide albums sales for most mainstream studio albums since 2006. It lists the following for Prince: 3121: 1,319,000 Planet Earth: 687,000 So that's about 2 million for those. The only other Prince album to sell significantly is Musicology, and its numbers are hard to track. I know it scanned over 1 million in the US (not including the concert giveaways). Most online sources I have seen list it at about 3 million worldwide, which I think is a bit generous. Let's go with 2 million. In 2001, the cheap hits collection The Very Best of Prince was released and has probably sold around 500,000 copies. Prince released several other albums this decade: The Rainbow Children, One Nite Alone, ONA Live, NEWS, and The Ultimate Collection being the main ones. None of them sold well outside of the core fanbase. Let's put the total sales of all of those at around 500,000. That brings Prince's totals to around 5 million copies. If you count the concert giveaway for Musicology and the newspaper giveaway for Planet Earth, you can add another 3-4 million, bringing the total to 8-9 million. By your metric of success, this is a disappointment for Prince, but I think it's pretty good. What is so annoying about threads like these is that they pit Prince and Michael Jackson against each other. Let's face it: Michael Jackson will always be more famous and sell more albums. Prince will always be more respected by musicians and critics. Both are legends in their own right and will be remembered for decades, if not longer. Both forged their careers with hard work and diligence and became electrifying performers and provided fans with decades of brilliant music and visuals. Why can't we just celebrate both? What this thread reeks of is the same tired argument that MJ fans have been recycling here for a long time- that Michael's record sales indicate his superior relevance, talent and appeal. It's the same argument every damn time. And if that's what you care about, you win! However, I think it's really cheesy and pointless to blast Prince on a Prince website by clinging to record sales as the Holy Grail of barometers of musical talent/quality/relevance/whatever. I really like both Prince and MJ, but my appreciation for MJ has been tainted by the rabid, overzealous MJ fans that populate this site and turn every thread into some kind of war of attrition. That's REALLY good @ Prince's sales. So, uh, Monk, you were saying? I thought "sales were overrated." | |
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shesoffthewall said: Timmy84 said: That's REALLY good @ Prince's sales. So, uh, Monk, you were saying? I thought "sales were overrated." They are. | |
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monk76 said: So Michael sold nearly 7 million albums this decade while sleeping.
Can someone please give us the numbers for all prince albums sold this decade so far.I want to check if all the Prince promotion on TV,Magazin, Interviews, Tours etc. did something for his sells.Especially the musicology project was huge in terms of promotion he was everywhere!And don´t forget his fight against youtube. So if you combine all Prince albums this decade and he doesn´t come over 10 Million it is a hugh dissapointment.And if he even couldn´t sell 7 million I want never ever again hear on this forum Michael is a "has been". If Michael is a has been with 7 million while sleeping what is prince?? Not living?? So where are Prince numbers?? [Edited 10/7/08 12:23pm] What a lame topic.  | |
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shesoffthewall said: monk76 said: So Michael sold nearly 7 million albums this decade while sleeping.
Can someone please give us the numbers for all prince albums sold this decade so far.I want to check if all the Prince promotion on TV,Magazin, Interviews, Tours etc. did something for his sells.Especially the musicology project was huge in terms of promotion he was everywhere!And don´t forget his fight against youtube. So if you combine all Prince albums this decade and he doesn´t come over 10 Million it is a hugh dissapointment.And if he even couldn´t sell 7 million I want never ever again hear on this forum Michael is a "has been". If Michael is a has been with 7 million while sleeping what is prince?? Not living?? So where are Prince numbers?? [Edited 10/7/08 12:23pm] What a lame topic. You sound like a KOPer who said that.  | |
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Timmy84 said: shesoffthewall said: What a lame topic. You sound like a KOPer who said that. I'm not a member of that site or any MJ site for that matter. Haven't found one as interesting as this site unfortunately.  | |
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wonder505 said: monk76 said: the point is I just want a freaking number. Is it so hard to understand? Why is everyone so afraid to post a number. So are his record sells documented or not? [Edited 10/7/08 12:30pm] i feel sorry for you mj fans. he has not given you a concert or new cd in over a decade, so you have nothing to live by but old youtube videos and celebrated record sales. someone please give him a number so that he can go back to the empty void mj has left them.  Ya'll some fools up in herre! | |
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MPLSBRAT said: monk76 said: So Michael sold nearly 7 million albums this decade while sleeping.
Can someone please give us the numbers for all prince albums sold this decade so far.I want to check if all the Prince promotion on TV,Magazin, Interviews, Tours etc. did something for his sells.Especially the musicology project was huge in terms of promotion he was everywhere!And don´t forget his fight against youtube. So if you combine all Prince albums this decade and he doesn´t come over 10 Million it is a hugh dissapointment.And if he even couldn´t sell 7 million I want never ever again hear on this forum Michael is a "has been". If Michael is a has been with 7 million while sleeping what is prince?? Not living?? So where are Prince numbers?? [Edited 10/7/08 12:23pm] MJ is also a Broke ass ..and PRINCE is? Rich, bitch!
P made almost $200 million from the Musicology tour alone. And I'm sure HE didn't drop $10 million in the Luxor's gift shop while he did 3121 in Vegas last year. [Edited 10/7/08 17:20pm] | |
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Timmy84 said: See this is why some of us MJ fans get the bad reputation we get because they think we can't come up with any productive sentence other than:
"MJ sells billions of copies and he sung so good back in 1987 that compared to someone like Prince or George Michael, they ain't shit." 
What kind of logic is that?  Exactly , the thing that bothers me with MJ is more of the "enigma" and sometimes bullshit that goes on, and this goes for alot of performers but lets all be honest, this whole thing where every other day there is a post about working with NEYO or Will I AM, or John Legend or the Pope or whomever is getting tired already, as it would for ANY artist dragging their fans through these ups and downs. It would be different if he was cutting albums constantly and then there were these rumours but this "gap" of nothing, nothing but re-hashes it really is just not cool, and really shows the isolation and sheltered world. Now if he wants to retire, more power to him, I mean Billy Joel did it, he bowed out back in 1994, stopped recording pop/Rock albums, just tours now, theres no rumours of doing albums every other day etc... As for the sales argument, god its just TIRED. If sales are what makes you the best, then MILEY CYRUS is the freaking Queen of music, cause shes the only one selling anything these days. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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MuthaFunka said: Michael sold 7 million while sleeping with kids that aren't his
There, fixed.  Fool! | |
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SCNDLS said: MPLSBRAT said: MJ is also a Broke ass ..and PRINCE is? Rich, bitch!
P made almost $200 million from the Musicology tour alone. And I'm sure HE didn't drop $10 million in the Luxor's gift shop while he did 3121 in Vegas last year.
[Edited 10/7/08 17:20pm] And the book "21 nights" is selling amazingly well, and is PURE PROFIT since he did all the work himself! "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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lastdecember said: Timmy84 said: See this is why some of us MJ fans get the bad reputation we get because they think we can't come up with any productive sentence other than:
"MJ sells billions of copies and he sung so good back in 1987 that compared to someone like Prince or George Michael, they ain't shit."
What kind of logic is that? Exactly , the thing that bothers me with MJ is more of the "enigma" and sometimes bullshit that goes on, and this goes for alot of performers but lets all be honest, this whole thing where every other day there is a post about working with NEYO or Will I AM, or John Legend or the Pope or whomever is getting tired already, as it would for ANY artist dragging their fans through these ups and downs. It would be different if he was cutting albums constantly and then there were these rumours but this "gap" of nothing, nothing but re-hashes it really is just not cool, and really shows the isolation and sheltered world. Now if he wants to retire, more power to him, I mean Billy Joel did it, he bowed out back in 1994, stopped recording pop/Rock albums, just tours now, theres no rumours of doing albums every other day etc... As for the sales argument, god its just TIRED. If sales are what makes you the best, then MILEY CYRUS is the freaking Queen of music, cause shes the only one selling anything these days. Word.  | |
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SCNDLS said: MuthaFunka said: There, fixed. Fool! nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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Why the fuck did I post in this thread?  !!! |
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monk76 said: So Michael sold nearly 7 million albums this decade while sleeping.
Can someone please give us the numbers for all prince albums sold this decade so far.I want to check if all the Prince promotion on TV,Magazin, Interviews, Tours etc. did something for his sells.Especially the musicology project was huge in terms of promotion he was everywhere!And don´t forget his fight against youtube. So if you combine all Prince albums this decade and he doesn´t come over 10 Million it is a hugh dissapointment.And if he even couldn´t sell 7 million I want never ever again hear on this forum Michael is a "has been". If Michael is a has been with 7 million while sleeping what is prince?? Not living?? So where are Prince numbers?? [Edited 10/7/08 12:23pm] my question is... what does selling albums have to do with the gross income? Forbes reported Prince making over $50 Million just on Musicology and the tour... dunno how many albums he sold, but with that kinda money.. does it really matter? can't be a 'has been' grossing $50 Million in one year.. | |
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I'm just bringing in disclaimer:
MJ FANS DON'T ENDORSE THIS THREAD OR THE ORIGINAL POSTER "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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shygirl said: Could MJ fans please put a hold on all their lame old MJ/Prince comparisons until MJ releases some new music?
No one doubts that MJ has sold more music than Prince, but in the last few years Prince has toured sold-out arenas, small clubs, released music, performed at the Superbowl, gave the 2004 Grammys a much need rating boost, held week long Celebrations at his recording studio, basically keeping busy in a positive way. Hell, even with the threatened lawsuits, we got a funky new song.
In the last few years MJ has been aquitted of child molestation, lip-synched at a couple of award shows, promised a fund-raising song for Katrina victims, and shown up at various locations in the worst diguises ever. Until MJ decides to release some new music or perform some LIVE shows, I really wish MJ fans would stop taking out their anger on Prince and Prince fans. We are not the reason MJ is making you wait a million years for new music or performances. You're basically feeding a troll right now, homegirl "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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 "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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 "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Michael is a walking turd ---------------------------------
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 "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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As a member of the nWo, I dedicate this hilarious, retarded joint to this thread:
"So you wanna start shit on the ORG, ha?" | |
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You have upset Lil' Oprah
She doesn't even want to be this thread now  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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wonder505 said: monk76 said: the point is I just want a freaking number. Is it so hard to understand? Why is everyone so afraid to post a number. So are his record sells documented or not? [Edited 10/7/08 12:30pm] i feel sorry for you mj fans. he has not given you a concert or new cd in over a decade, so you have nothing to live by but old youtube videos and celebrated record sales. someone please give him a number so that he can go back to the empty void mj has left them. You don't have to feel sorry for us. MJ fans are generally happy people, it's just the select few..... goes and looks at newly leaked Brunei concert "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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