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Thread started 10/04/08 2:22am

MissOpera

How Can Artists like Madonna charge so much for their shows?

B4 you remind me it is all about the M-dolla -->I know but

I really want to c her but it's 350$ for a MF ticket mad
that is almost a month's rent...why can't she do a show fo tha po ppl? sad
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Reply #1 posted 10/04/08 2:33am

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They charge that much cause "the people" are foolish enough to keep paying that price.
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Reply #2 posted 10/04/08 3:24am

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No, it is cuz everybody downloads their albums for free, so they need to make their money through pive performances/tours/merchandise.

It's why Madonna and Prince tour so much still; tours is where the money is. And if fools keep paying money, then why not.

btw, Madonna did not sell out her current (or latest) tour, so people are already starting to get wise.
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Reply #3 posted 10/04/08 8:40am

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OfftheWall said:

They charge that much cause "the people" are foolish enough to keep paying that price.


Exactly - also they see how much ridiculous cash is spent on Ebay and think 'why don't we get that much if they are willing to pay so much'
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Reply #4 posted 10/04/08 8:53am

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MissOpera said:

B4 you remind me it is all about the M-dolla -->I know but

I really want to c her but it's 350$ for a MF ticket mad
that is almost a month's rent...why can't she do a show fo tha po ppl? sad


You don't have to pay $350 to get a decent seat.You can buy a ticket in the next price range and still have a great view.Her show has a lengthy catwalk that extends into the crowd and she spends alot of time there.
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Reply #5 posted 10/04/08 2:45pm

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HamsterHuey said:

No, it is cuz everybody downloads their albums for free, so they need to make their money through pive performances/tours/merchandise.

It's why Madonna and Prince tour so much still; tours is where the money is. And if fools keep paying money, then why not.

btw, Madonna did not sell out her current (or latest) tour, so people are already starting to get wise.



yes but PRINCE tickets doesn´t cost 350$

and u get 100% live music... lol

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myloveis4ever said:

HamsterHuey said:

No, it is cuz everybody downloads their albums for free, so they need to make their money through pive performances/tours/merchandise.

It's why Madonna and Prince tour so much still; tours is where the money is. And if fools keep paying money, then why not.

btw, Madonna did not sell out her current (or latest) tour, so people are already starting to get wise.



yes but PRINCE tickets doesn´t cost 350$

and u get 100% live music... lol

[Edited 10/4/08 14:46pm]

Madonna is live music and believe it or not 95% live singing too.

also it costs a few million dollars to put on that type of show and move it around the world, therefore in order to turn a profit of any form tickets have to be high.

and i believe Prince was charging $312 for his shows in Vegas.
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Reply #7 posted 10/04/08 5:24pm

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Madonna is an artist? confuse
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Reply #8 posted 10/04/08 5:27pm

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MissOpera said:

I really want to c her but it's 350$ for a MF ticket

You can believe those ticket prices would start coming down once those concert halls started turning up half full. nod For $350, that ticket better include a backstage pass!
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Reply #9 posted 10/04/08 8:05pm

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I'm gonna wait until the last minute and pick up a ticket less than face value. I'm sure there will be some. I can't afford $350, but to me, she's worth a couple of hundred dollars. smile
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Reply #10 posted 10/04/08 8:42pm

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Because she is a greedy bitch. After reading Christopher Ciccones book I really don't think she even can truely comprehend kabbalah or being a kind human being.
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Reply #11 posted 10/04/08 8:52pm

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MissOpera said:

B4 you remind me it is all about the M-dolla -->I know but

I really want to c her but it's 350$ for a MF ticket mad
that is almost a month's rent...why can't she do a show fo tha po ppl? sad


It is so funny that you post this thread! I am off next weekend and thought i would catch a show at Madison Square Garden. When I went to the site to get one ticket it said $350!!!!! I almost fell over in my chair. I went to work the next pissed off, and told everyone. No wonder she claims to have the highest grossing concert tours. How could she NOT??!! This is not a scalpers price or craig's list price, its her price.

I am an 80's fan and I seen almost every act there is in concert, except Madonna. She never toured the Carolinas when i was growing up so now I get a chance to see her, locally at MSG, and then this.

I am really pissed.
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Reply #12 posted 10/04/08 9:26pm

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HamsterHuey said:

btw, Madonna did not sell out her current (or latest) tour, so people are already starting to get wise.

Check out the latest boxoffice score at Billboard: http://www.billboard.com/...xscore.jsp or http://prince.org/msg/8/284481! She sold out every fucking show.... people are staying stupid!
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jthad1129 said:

It is so funny that you post this thread! I am off next weekend and thought i would catch a show at Madison Square Garden. When I went to the site to get one ticket it said $350!!!!!

Unless she had recently added some shows (like in the last 30 days), Madison Square Garden has been sold out for months now.
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Pdogz: msg still has random tix available, just bought some the other day.

honestly, i'm so over hearing about how this one charges too much and that one shouldn't be so greedy. if you think it's too much, don't buy. stay home and save the cash. obviously the demand for the tickets is there and who are any of us to tell someone else how much their work is worth? if your job said, "i can pay you 150 an hour or i can pay you 75 and hour, you decide," are you gonna sit there and tel me you'd take the 75? no, you wouldn't. you would take the 150 and be happy and proud of your salary. madonna is doing the same thing.

people get to choose how much their labor is worth. people also get to choose if they agree that someone's labor is worth that amount. madonna's fans clearly think she's worth it, so why the fuss? stay home or go. pay or don't pay. no reason to get all salty.
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Reply #15 posted 10/04/08 11:26pm

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Like I said before,you DON'T have to pay $350 to have a decent seat at this show.Trust me on this.On the Confessions Tour,I got a great seat in the next price range ($175) and I had a GREAT view of the stage.Sassy and Heartbeatocean were sitting nearby,in this same section lol

You should only pay top price if it's within your budget.
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Reply #16 posted 10/05/08 1:40am

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PatrickS77 said:

HamsterHuey said:

btw, Madonna did not sell out her current (or latest) tour, so people are already starting to get wise.

Check out the latest boxoffice score at Billboard: http://www.billboard.com/...xscore.jsp or http://prince.org/msg/8/284481! She sold out every fucking show.... people are staying stupid!



how did she sell out every show, when i'm still pulling up floor seats at ticketmaster.com for both chicago shows and the detroit show?
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Reply #17 posted 10/05/08 7:23am

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Have you checked the link?? It referred to the european shows! She has a couple of sold outs in the US and South America... and I'm sure, once show day approaches there will be some more sold outs!
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sassybritches said:

Pdogz: msg still has random tix available, just bought some the other day.

honestly, i'm so over hearing about how this one charges too much and that one shouldn't be so greedy. if you think it's too much, don't buy. stay home and save the cash. obviously the demand for the tickets is there and who are any of us to tell someone else how much their work is worth? if your job said, "i can pay you 150 an hour or i can pay you 75 and hour, you decide," are you gonna sit there and tel me you'd take the 75? no, you wouldn't. you would take the 150 and be happy and proud of your salary. madonna is doing the same thing.

people get to choose how much their labor is worth. people also get to choose if they agree that someone's labor is worth that amount. madonna's fans clearly think she's worth it, so why the fuss? stay home or go. pay or don't pay. no reason to get all salty.

Well, I don't quite agree with that sentiment! There are clearly people who can afford to spend that kind of money on tickets! Then there are people, who actually can't afford that kind of money, but are stupid and go into debt on their credit cards and then there are people, who can't afford it and also don't have a credit card and due to that miss out! Just because you're in a position to ask for a lot of money, doesn't mean you should! Especially if you have more money than you ever will be able to spend!
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Reply #19 posted 10/05/08 7:27am

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madonna aint worth 20 dollar let alone a hundreds of dollars ole wrinkled up talentless prune i think people crazy 2 pay 2 c that trick when they complain about fuel prices get a clue people
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PatrickS77 said:

sassybritches said:

Pdogz: msg still has random tix available, just bought some the other day.

honestly, i'm so over hearing about how this one charges too much and that one shouldn't be so greedy. if you think it's too much, don't buy. stay home and save the cash. obviously the demand for the tickets is there and who are any of us to tell someone else how much their work is worth? if your job said, "i can pay you 150 an hour or i can pay you 75 and hour, you decide," are you gonna sit there and tel me you'd take the 75? no, you wouldn't. you would take the 150 and be happy and proud of your salary. madonna is doing the same thing.

people get to choose how much their labor is worth. people also get to choose if they agree that someone's labor is worth that amount. madonna's fans clearly think she's worth it, so why the fuss? stay home or go. pay or don't pay. no reason to get all salty.

Well, I don't quite agree with that sentiment! There are clearly people who can afford to spend that kind of money on tickets! Then there are people, who actually can't afford that kind of money, but are stupid and go into debt on their credit cards and then there are people, who can't afford it and also don't have a credit card and due to that miss out! Just because you're in a position to ask for a lot of money, doesn't mean you should! Especially if you have more money than you ever will be able to spend!
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so basically what you're saying is this: a person who creates work, performs the work, etc should limit how much they are rewarded for that work because some people may not be able to enjoy the work they have created. Am I misunderstanding you or is that about right?

if that is the case, where is the motivation or incentive to continue producing work if not in the monetary value that said work creates?

you said, "just because you're in a position to ask for a lot of money, doesn't mean you should." I'd counter that with just because some people can't afford the asking price, doesn't mean you SHOULDN'T ask for it from others who can afford it.
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Reply #21 posted 10/05/08 9:35am

Rakel

It sure would be nice to see her offer a show that is cheaper like P did at 1st ave when the tix were 31.21 cool

Did u hear that M-Dolla???? confused
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sassybritches said:

so basically what you're saying is this: a person who creates work, performs the work, etc should limit how much they are rewarded for that work because some people may not be able to enjoy the work they have created. Am I misunderstanding you or is that about right?

if that is the case, where is the motivation or incentive to continue producing work if not in the monetary value that said work creates?

you said, "just because you're in a position to ask for a lot of money, doesn't mean you should." I'd counter that with just because some people can't afford the asking price, doesn't mean you SHOULDN'T ask for it from others who can afford it.

Well, nobody is saying, that she should do her shows for free... but if money is her only motivation to do these tours, then it would be better for her to stay home! There is a difference between being paid for your work or being greedy and pressing every last dollar out of the very people, who made you a star and a millionaire in the first place! And if those very people can't afford to see you anymore, because of outrageous ticket prices, then something clearly went wrong! Especially if you portray yourself to be this great generous person, who cares about the wellbeing of the earth and all!
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Reply #23 posted 10/05/08 10:21am

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well I hope that all money made is going to a good cause and not being wasted wink
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Reply #24 posted 10/05/08 10:27am

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I only paid 60 euros (83 dollars), got into the golden circle (my queen was only a few meters from me). Drunk beers! And had the best time of my life

Was it worth?

YES IT WAS!
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MikeMatronik said:

I only paid 60 euros (83 dollars), got into the golden circle (my queen was only a few meters from me). Drunk beers! And had the best time of my life

Was it worth?

YES IT WAS!
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Yeah, I also had the cheapest ticket (even though that one still did cost 100 euro (150 dollars... at least it included the train to the concert)... and got to the front... but I was thinking hard on whether I should really play the game and pay that price
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Reply #26 posted 10/05/08 10:41am

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It's also to try and stop the bootlegging of the tickets. Doesn't really work though.

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Reply #27 posted 10/05/08 10:42am

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PatrickS77 said:

sassybritches said:

so basically what you're saying is this: a person who creates work, performs the work, etc should limit how much they are rewarded for that work because some people may not be able to enjoy the work they have created. Am I misunderstanding you or is that about right?

if that is the case, where is the motivation or incentive to continue producing work if not in the monetary value that said work creates?

you said, "just because you're in a position to ask for a lot of money, doesn't mean you should." I'd counter that with just because some people can't afford the asking price, doesn't mean you SHOULDN'T ask for it from others who can afford it.

Well, nobody is saying, that she should do her shows for free... but if money is her only motivation to do these tours, then it would be better for her to stay home! There is a difference between being paid for your work or being greedy and pressing every last dollar out of the very people, who made you a star and a millionaire in the first place! And if those very people can't afford to see you anymore, because of outrageous ticket prices, then something clearly went wrong! Especially if you portray yourself to be this great generous person, who cares about the wellbeing of the earth and all!

money is motivation. period. every invention, every piece of technological advancement, every innovative idea...the whole notion of copyrighting and trademarking, all stem from the motivation to earn money. pop music is no different. nobody wants to be a pop star so they can live a humble life.

but even in another scenario that you can relate to better...i'm quite sure you go to work and expect your paycheck at the end of the week for the work you've produced. i'm also very sure that if a raise in salary was offered to you, you would accept it and feel as though it is payment for work well done.

here's a nice little analogy...you work for a company that gives you a chance to get your career started. you develop a name for yourself in that field in part thanks to the chance this company offered you and in bigger part to the hard work you've done to build that reputation. another company comes along and offers you a bigger salary and more rewards/perks/benefits if you leave the current company and work for the new one. you take this opportunity for further growth and greater income only to have the same situation repeat itself with yet a third company...and so on and so on. is there anything wrong with you taking these new jobs that are outbidding your current employer for your work-product? no. and there's nothing wrong with artists or other business people doing the same thing in their line of work.

it's always interesting to me how people want person X to sacrifice the value of person x's work while maintaining the right to the limitless value of their own work.
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PatrickS77 said:

MikeMatronik said:

I only paid 60 euros (83 dollars), got into the golden circle (my queen was only a few meters from me). Drunk beers! And had the best time of my life

Was it worth?

YES IT WAS!
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Yeah, I also had the cheapest ticket (even though that one still did cost 100 euro (150 dollars... at least it included the train to the concert)... and got to the front... but I was thinking hard on whether I should really play the game and pay that price

wait...wait...wait...you're complaining about the price yet you paid it? and you think she shouldn't have wanted your money? obviously you think she's earned it...you obviously place a level of value on her work that allowed for you to pay this price.

just as she could have charged less, you could have stayed home. you're lack of will-power or determination to stay home is not just-cause for madonna charging less money for a ticket. lol
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ehuffnsd said:

myloveis4ever said:




yes but PRINCE tickets doesn´t cost 350$

and u get 100% live music... lol

[Edited 10/4/08 14:46pm]

Madonna is live music and believe it or not 95% live singing too.

also it costs a few million dollars to put on that type of show and move it around the world, therefore in order to turn a profit of any form tickets have to be high.

and i believe Prince was charging $312 for his shows in Vegas.


Honestly, folks do not know how much it costs just to put on one concert...and to make that concert happen around the world? It's not like all she needs is a stage and a sound system...but all the props, video screens special effects, it adds up. Sure she could pare it all down to just her a couple of back up singers a dancer or two, but then it would not be a Madonna concert.

I am not trying to justify the price here as I think it's expensive as well. But these days her bread and butter come from touring. You know if she stopped for a decade, could you imagine the price she could charge in ten years?

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